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Re: S Scale switching layout plan

 

Very nice!? An interesting and well done variation of the original plan.
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Re: S Scale switching layout plan

 

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Bob McCarthy owned a layout (built by someone else) very similar to the Gumstump & Snowshoe; he brought it to a Savannah RPM many years ago and I took the attached photos of it :
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On 03/07/2025 10:24 AM EST Rich Gajnak via groups.io <rustytraque@...> wrote:
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I've always been fond of Chuck Yungkurth's Gum Stump & Snowshoe.? I was building an expanded version (2'x10') in HO before I switch to S.? My fist S Scale railroad was an even greater expansion on the concept when I unfortunately had to tear it down to make way for some basement work. (Sorry no pictures exist of the S version...)
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Re: S Scale switching layout plan

 
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I've always been fond of Chuck Yungkurth's Gum Stump & Snowshoe.? I was building an expanded version (2'x10') in HO before I switched to S.? My first S Scale railroad was an even greater expansion on the concept when I unfortunately had to tear it down to make way for some basement work. (Sorry no pictures exist of the S version...)
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Re: S Scale switching layout plan

 

I've long been fascinated by John Armstorng's Pratt Street Manfacturers' Railway, attached. ?Designed to fit 22-1/2" x 12' in O scale.

Also check out Rob Chant's track planning blog:




Charles Weston
San Antonio



On Friday, March 7, 2025, 08:06:49 AM CST, JGG KahnSr via groups.io <jacekahn@...> wrote:


Perhaps the ultimate choice for me (if I ever get that far) is included in Arendt's book; having long owned a hard copy of it, I just picked up the CD for it at the local train show a week or two ago.


I have liked the idea since I first saw in the RMC issue back in the 1970's.

I believe the original Gumstump and Snowshoe was the late Chuck Yungkurth's rethinking of his friend Bill Livingstone's around the room single track point-to-point (whose name escapes me just now) which had appeared in MRR earlier.? Both are free-lanced from the same geographic area as my fictional Ceres and Canisteo—southwestern New York State and northwestern Pennsylvania, a short line also supported by lumbering traffic.



Jace Kahn



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jim & Cheryl Martin <themartins@...>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2025 2:37 PM
To: S-Scale Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [S-Scale] S Scale switching layout plan
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Hi Tom
If you are looking for a small switching layout plan there are hundreds if not thousands to choose from. You didn't say how large a space you want to fill.
The easiest way to go is to find a prototype track drawing at a small location and simply copy it. That's what Tony Koester calls a Layout Design Element. In my case, the small end-of-branch at Port Dover, Ontario appealed to me. See below. It ended at the Lake Erie shoreline and had only six turnouts. For space considerations, I combined the fish plant and coal dealer spurs into one. What you see below was removable from my layout and travelled thousands of miles to dozens of train shows.? For all of it's simplicity, switching a train could take a half hour or more. Especially if done at prototypical speeds and using prototypical practices.?

Port Dover track map.jpg Port Dover track map model.jpg

Two good websites to check out are those of Lance Mindheim () and Carl Arendt ().
Lance has written numerous articles about prototypically operating deceptively simple track layouts based on actual locations. His modelling and photography are superb.
I'm a big fan of tiny layouts and the late Carl Arendt built a massive website for micro and mini layouts. Even if you are not pressed for room, the problem-solving ideas in these clever plans are transferable to larger spaces.

Cheers
Jim Martin.?
p.s. I too always had a hankering to build the Gumstump and Snowshoe.


Re: S Scale switching layout plan

 

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Perhaps the ultimate choice for me (if I ever get that far) is included in Arendt's book; having long owned a hard copy of it, I just picked up the CD for it at the local train show a week or two ago.


I have liked the idea since I first saw in the RMC issue back in the 1970's.

I believe the original Gumstump and Snowshoe was the late Chuck Yungkurth's rethinking of his friend Bill Livingstone's around the room single track point-to-point (whose name escapes me just now) which had appeared in MRR earlier.? Both are free-lanced from the same geographic area as my fictional Ceres and Canisteo—southwestern New York State and northwestern Pennsylvania, a short line also supported by lumbering traffic.



Jace Kahn



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jim & Cheryl Martin <themartins@...>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2025 2:37 PM
To: S-Scale Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [S-Scale] S Scale switching layout plan
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Hi Tom
If you are looking for a small switching layout plan there are hundreds if not thousands to choose from. You didn't say how large a space you want to fill.
The easiest way to go is to find a prototype track drawing at a small location and simply copy it. That's what Tony Koester calls a Layout Design Element. In my case, the small end-of-branch at Port Dover, Ontario appealed to me. See below. It ended at the Lake Erie shoreline and had only six turnouts. For space considerations, I combined the fish plant and coal dealer spurs into one. What you see below was removable from my layout and travelled thousands of miles to dozens of train shows.? For all of it's simplicity, switching a train could take a half hour or more. Especially if done at prototypical speeds and using prototypical practices.?

Port Dover track map.jpg Port Dover track map model.jpg

Two good websites to check out are those of Lance Mindheim () and Carl Arendt ().
Lance has written numerous articles about prototypically operating deceptively simple track layouts based on actual locations. His modelling and photography are superb.
I'm a big fan of tiny layouts and the late Carl Arendt built a massive website for micro and mini layouts. Even if you are not pressed for room, the problem-solving ideas in these clever plans are transferable to larger spaces.

Cheers
Jim Martin.?
p.s. I too always had a hankering to build the Gumstump and Snowshoe.


Re: Benn Central Shops Kit Instructions

 

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Your usual immaculate work. ?Nice job Ben. ?Hope you are well.
Ron


On Mar 6, 2025, at 10:38 PM, Ben via groups.io <pickycat95@...> wrote:

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Instructions for the PS 4750, PS 3000 and 4180 Airslide are now available on the NASG web page.
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https://www.nasg.org/Gallery/reports/Hoppers/ByManufacturer/indexBenn_Central_Shops(notset).php
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Re: new to me.but!

 

Bob,

I signed up with Grouper through the NMRA, I think last year when the program started. I just received my first check from Grouper yesterday. I think it works through your medical insurance. I know Grouper asks me every month whether I did something or not.

Dave Heine




On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 10:40?AM Bob Werre via <bob=[email protected]> wrote:

I've been a on-off-on member of the NMRA several times.? I first became a member when a year's dues (1966?) was $3.00.? You received the standards & RP stuff, info, a yearbook, and a brief monthly newsletter from your region (Thousand Lakes in my case).? I was supposed to also get a NMRA track gauge but I still await that!

After that for several years I was largely "dark" as I was trying establish my professional standing in the photo world, college, marriage, relocating etc.? As that was beginning to happen, I contacted our local S group, the NASG, and the NMRA with it's localized group.? More recently I've had to dig deeper for the yearly dues, and sometimes that just didn't happen.?

Yesterday, I received notice that 'I was missed' from the roster again.? Now retired and "living" on my BBB commission--yah right! and my SS was always tight.? So I wrote the gentlemen regarding my having to drop my membership with uncertain times to come.? He replied last night where he stated that the NMRA had a program they partnered with called Grouper so one could utilize HMO/ PPO or other medical group coverage to cover that.? I applied and I or my region isn't joining that effort!? I don't know the reason but it might be worth it for our more seasoned NMRA or perhaps even our NASG members to help with the dues as part of your health plan.?

So at this time, nothing is going to happen, but perhaps some of you can make it happen!

Bob Werre



Re: new to me.but!

 

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Perhaps it isn't NMRA or your region that isn't participating in Grouper but whichever Medicare Advantage or supplement plan you use.? Not all of them use Grouper, any more than all of them use Silver Sneaker or similar gym membership programs.


Jace Kahn



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bob Werre <bob@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 10:40 AM
To: S-Scale <[email protected]>
Subject: [S-Scale] new to me.but!
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I've been a on-off-on member of the NMRA several times.? I first became a member when a year's dues (1966?) was $3.00.? You received the standards & RP stuff, info, a yearbook, and a brief monthly newsletter from your region (Thousand Lakes in my case).? I was supposed to also get a NMRA track gauge but I still await that!

After that for several years I was largely "dark" as I was trying establish my professional standing in the photo world, college, marriage, relocating etc.? As that was beginning to happen, I contacted our local S group, the NASG, and the NMRA with it's localized group.? More recently I've had to dig deeper for the yearly dues, and sometimes that just didn't happen.?

Yesterday, I received notice that 'I was missed' from the roster again.? Now retired and "living" on my BBB commission--yah right! and my SS was always tight.? So I wrote the gentlemen regarding my having to drop my membership with uncertain times to come.? He replied last night where he stated that the NMRA had a program they partnered with called Grouper so one could utilize HMO/ PPO or other medical group coverage to cover that.? I applied and I or my region isn't joining that effort!? I don't know the reason but it might be worth it for our more seasoned NMRA or perhaps even our NASG members to help with the dues as part of your health plan.?

So at this time, nothing is going to happen, but perhaps some of you can make it happen!

Bob Werre



Re: How To Delete Posts from the Message Archive

 

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I was more concerned to apologize immediately for a message to the list sent in error than to worry about cluttering up the archives.
It isn't as if I were circulating incorrect information for the ages.


Jace Ka


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Matt Hogan via groups.io <Matthew.Hogan1804@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 11:07 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [S-Scale] How To Delete Posts from the Message Archive
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Jace and Group,
It's possible to delete your own posts from the Message Archive.? Select More at the bottom of your post, select Delete Message then Acknowledge:
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Thank you,
Matt Hogan


How To Delete Posts from the Message Archive

 

Jace and Group,
It's possible to delete your own posts from the Message Archive.? Select More at the bottom of your post, select Delete Message then Acknowledge:
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Thank you,
Matt Hogan


new to me.but!

 

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I've been a on-off-on member of the NMRA several times.? I first became a member when a year's dues (1966?) was $3.00.? You received the standards & RP stuff, info, a yearbook, and a brief monthly newsletter from your region (Thousand Lakes in my case).? I was supposed to also get a NMRA track gauge but I still await that!

After that for several years I was largely "dark" as I was trying establish my professional standing in the photo world, college, marriage, relocating etc.? As that was beginning to happen, I contacted our local S group, the NASG, and the NMRA with it's localized group.? More recently I've had to dig deeper for the yearly dues, and sometimes that just didn't happen.?

Yesterday, I received notice that 'I was missed' from the roster again.? Now retired and "living" on my BBB commission--yah right! and my SS was always tight.? So I wrote the gentlemen regarding my having to drop my membership with uncertain times to come.? He replied last night where he stated that the NMRA had a program they partnered with called Grouper so one could utilize HMO/ PPO or other medical group coverage to cover that.? I applied and I or my region isn't joining that effort!? I don't know the reason but it might be worth it for our more seasoned NMRA or perhaps even our NASG members to help with the dues as part of your health plan.?

So at this time, nothing is going to happen, but perhaps some of you can make it happen!

Bob Werre



Re: Shrinks are their own best customers--if only they would acknowledge it

 

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Sorry, I must have hit the wrong key


Jace Kahn



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of JGG KahnSr via groups.io <jacekahn@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 9:10 AM
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Subject: [S-Scale] Shrinks are their own best customers--if only they would acknowledge it
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Shrinks are their own best customers--if only they would acknowledge it

 

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Jace Kahnn


Re: River Raisin Shark Gearboxes and Axles with gears

 

Michael and Group,
According to the Groups Help section, to display the entire email address in a message post, you need to receive each message as an individual email.
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The screenshot below shows the setting that needs to be enabled.? (This setting is per Group.)
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Or, click Reply and select Sender in the To dropdown control:
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Thank you,
Matt Hogan


Re: River Raisin Shark Gearboxes and Axles with gears

 

Dear John,
Your full email does not show in the message and I don't know how to?
get you into my email.? I will take everything.? I prefer to send you a check.? You can hold the?
parts until the check clears.? Please respond with full price and address.
Thanls
Michael Berus


Re: MILW branchline combine

 

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Although Rich G. Is correct that the combine was usually on the end of the train (why it had a coal stove and either kerosene or battery lighting—although few mixed trains operated after dark) to allow the locomotive to do way freight switching, there were occasional exceptions.? One that comes immediately to mind was on the Norwood & St Lawrence up in northern New York State where the combine usually was coupled to the tender.? And although some mixed trains had both combine and caboose, the more usual (and more cost-effective) practice was to have the conductor's desk at one end of the car.

Jace Kahn



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dan Reagan via groups.io <geefah@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2025 5:23 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [S-Scale] MILW branchline combine
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Bob,

Nice info.? Where would the combines be placed in the train?? Would the train also have a caboose?

Dan

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bob Werre <bob@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2025 2:30 PM
To: S-Scale <[email protected]>
Subject: [S-Scale] MILW branchline combine
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A few days past I must have mentioned the Milwaukee's home made combines that served the smaller populated towns with fairly good service until the shuttered mail contracts took the lines from margine able into distress!

Anyway here are some photos of them in restored fashion plus one used as MW--like a cat in it;s 9th life!? For anybody thinking of creating one--it's very possible with traditional methods.


Bob Werre


Re: MILW branchline combine

 

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Dan,? Yes The car was close to the Swiss Army knife:? a caboose, Railway Express area, some had PRO functions or simply bagged mail, plus several coach seats.? Early versions had plain slab sides with arched windows with the latter versions being ribbed (like the boxcar and many passenger cars).? Those later versions had rectangular windows as shown., I understand all were built in the roads shops as were the boxcars along with the fleet of Hiawatha train sets. ?? I don't know if it had two coal stoves or just one, it also had just a basic 'outhouse' for those needs.? One that ran through my hometown, derailed a few miles out on the prairie along with some tank cars.? It derailed and tilted rather severely.? The express guy received a broken leg when stacked cream cans crashed to the floor.? My aunt. a PO clerk, complained that all the mail was soaked in old sour cream--a smell you have to get used to.
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? One car had a second life on the Reader RR in Arkansas, and I think it went on to another life beyond that.? Maybe Gale Hall might know something about it?

Bob Werre
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Bob,

Nice info.? Where would the combines be placed in the train?? Would the train also have a caboose?

Dan

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bob Werre <bob@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2025 2:30 PM
To: S-Scale <[email protected]>
Subject: [S-Scale] MILW branchline combine
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A few days past I must have mentioned the Milwaukee's home made combines that served the smaller populated towns with fairly good service until the shuttered mail contracts took the lines from margine able into distress!

Anyway here are some photos of them in restored fashion plus one used as MW--like a cat in it;s 9th life!? For anybody thinking of creating one--it's very possible with traditional methods.


Bob Werre