Re: The Monon Thoroughbred
Roger Brooks Is? Birds eye view The term you seek? Sent from my Tardis -- Ted Larson trainweb.org/mhrr/??????? --------??????? NASG.org??????? --------??????? GN in 1965
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Re: Posting Only On Facebook
Thanks Peter. ? In that case a group?name change is needed. ? Sent from my Tardis
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Re: Any future S efforts....
I agree with David Dewey. ?This thread of wishful thinking is so typical of hundreds of similar posts except for the massive size of delusion that someone, group or company will step up given the immense initial costs.?
Ben Trousdale?
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Ron ? Trust me I know what I am an talking about. Tomalco track is now owned by Micro Engineering. ? 1 of the things we are helping M E with is get a new website up. They are well aware their current website is greatly lacking¡.. ? Thank You,
Bill Lane
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Re: Any future S efforts....
While I have great respect for those posting here, I will admit that I am sick and tired of the complaining that S is dominated by toy trains. ALL the scales started out as toy trains, it is NOT the fault of ACG or Lionel that S-scale hasn't grown except that the other scales have many more established manufacturers in both the "toy" and "scale" marketplaces, so they overwhelm the general public with their products, which are not S scale in size.? And I am willing to bet that all manufactures are facing the declining interest in ALL hobbies. The upcoming generations do not seem to want to do hobbies except maybe electronic gaming. Society, both American and European (the two major societies that have large groups of hobbyists), has reached a major turning point in recreational activities, and it's not one the is supportive of personal creativity activities.
Lionel's decision to leave the AF product line in spite of their mishandling of it is not a blessing for the future popularity of the scale.
S'incerely,
David Dewey
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Re: Any future S efforts....
Preorders are pretty much the way Lionel's been doing business for the last 20 years, particularly with locomotives.
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Rich G(Gajnak)
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Re: Posting Only On Facebook
Hi Peter;?
I just took a look at the NASG FB page which I have belonged to
for a while. I saw lots of good modeling information for all
interests. A lot of it seemed to be Scale or high rail oriented.
Not so much Flyer.
Ian McKinley
On 2/2/2025 10:42 AM, Peter Vanvliet
via groups.io wrote:
Hi Ted,
The original idea was that the manager of that group would post
NASG-related news items there, for those who don't use Groups.io
(back then it was Yahoo Groups). While I have personally never
seen it, it is my understanding that it has morphed into an
AF-discussion group.
- Peter.
On 02/01/2025 07:16 PM, Ted Larson
via groups.io wrote:
Regarding?
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by Chris Burger on behalf of the NASG; ~1,300 members)
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What is NASGs purpose for this? ??
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Ted Larson
trainweb.org/mhrr/??????? --------??????? NASG.org???????
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GN in 1965
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Peter Vanvliet (info@...)
owner, Fourth Ray Software
Houston, Texas
(personal web site)
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Brand new to DCC and just hooked up an NCE Power Cab. ?My first engine is decodered and running fine. ?Starting to install a decoder in an AM RS11. ?The headlights in the RS11 are factory mounted to small PC boards and wired in parallel with track power so there is no differentiation between headlight and taillight. ?Should I keep them wired to the motor tabs on the decoder and let the lighting boards figure it out without using the decoder light tabs?
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Re: Any future S efforts....
Well since everything is a preorder nowadays anyway it seems Lionel could open it up for preorders stating that the project will only go forward if ¡°X¡± number of locomotives are ordered and then if enough interest is reached require a 50% deposit from those
people to assure the sales and make the run.?
My only gripe is that I don¡¯t want or need all the junk they have in those locomotives. They could save money by selling a stripped version rid of all the electronics and simply supply it with scale wheels, lights and motor. We¡¯re S scalers, so we can
do the rest!!! If they want to release with hirail wheels for those folks that would be fine to increase the run numbers, but offering a stripped version saving some money would be great. That¡¯s basically what American Models sells with their DC versions.
I ended up stripping those down too and starting over anyway. I suppose if they wanted to make it DCC ready that would be fine too with the harness built in and then purchasers could choose their own control system.?
Just my two cents.?
Jeff J
Michigan
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On Feb 2, 2025, at 19:31, Rich Gajnak via groups.io <rustytraque@...> wrote:
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On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 01:45 PM, Hans von Draminski wrote:
Rusty, if we could Lionel persuade to resurrect the "modern" rolling stock in scale versions we would surely benefit from that and they could have a return of invest for their efforts in the years between 2010 and 2015.
Lionel marches only to their own drumbeat.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Re: Posting Only On Facebook
And there are scams associated with fake "friend" requests.? It gives the scammer access to your info and your list of friends.? A goal can be to send malware or phishing links to your real friends.
I have had recent "friend" requests from my lady friend who died in 2011 and my brother who died last May.? Unless Facebook has a longer reach than I think it has, they were certainly fake.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 04:28:44 PM PST, Bill Lane via groups.io <bill@...> wrote:
I have 100s of ¡°friends¡± I have never approved. That would be more of a time consumer than FB already is. ? Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! ? See my layout progress at:
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
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Re: Any future S efforts....
On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 01:45 PM, Hans von Draminski wrote:
Rusty, if we could Lionel persuade to resurrect the "modern" rolling stock in scale versions we would surely benefit from that and they could have a return of invest for their efforts in the years between 2010 and 2015.
Lionel marches only to their own drumbeat.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Shane said he¡¯d announce a sale. Tomalco and Micro websites are silent. Until the check clears¡Reminds me of salesmen counting their commission before the product ships and is paid for. I hope you¡¯re right Bill.
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Re: Posting Only On Facebook
I have 100s of ¡°friends¡± I have never approved. That would be more of a time consumer than FB already is. ? Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! ? See my layout progress at:
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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Tony ? Ready to use turnouts are already being developed by Pennsy S Models and Micro Engineering. ? Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! ? See my layout progress at:
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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Re: Any future S efforts....
John,
I enjoy your sense of humor!
Mike,
Ohio
We could hope that Lionel has finally seen accepted that the AF market is drowning in unwanted surplus and has decided to stop producing AF toy trains... and... may be going to redirect the AF production funds toward the scale side of S for a while to see what happens.? But I won't be betting a penny on that.
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John D
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Well spoke, Bill.
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However, I'm not sure the current demise of Flyer will be of much benefit to increase the visibility or interest of S Scale.? There's that annoying 75+ year history of Gilbert and Lionel Flyer in S that won't go away.? There's a lot of Flyer circulating on the secondary market and the past does have a tendency to come up and bite one in the hind quarters when one's not looking.?
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And you never know, Lionel could decide to resurrect Flyer at a future date.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Re: Any future S efforts....
We could hope that Lionel has finally seen accepted that the AF market is drowning in unwanted surplus and has decided to stop producing AF toy trains... and... may be going to redirect the AF production funds toward the scale side of S for a while to see what happens.? But I won't be betting a penny on that.
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On 02/02/2025 3:32 PM EST Rich Gajnak via groups.io <rustytraque@...> wrote:
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Well spoke, Bill.
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However, I'm not sure the current demise of Flyer will be of much benefit to increase the visibility or interest of S Scale.? There's that annoying 75+ year history of Gilbert and Lionel Flyer in S that won't go away.? There's a lot of Flyer circulating on the secondary market and the past does have a tendency to come up and bite one in the hind quarters when one's not looking.?
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And you never know, Lionel could decide to resurrect Flyer at a future date.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Not sure exactly what you want, but a search on ¡°?plastic triangle strip¡± found lots of hits, including both Plastruct and Evergreen. Not sure if they are 45 or 60 degree angles.
On Sunday, February 2, 2025, 6:36 PM, Jamie Bothwell via groups.io <jamie.bothwell610@...> wrote: Frank, There was a time when Plastruct offered a solid triangle shape. I have some somewhere, but it might take me a month to find it. It was probably an equilateral triangle which would make it 60¡ã angles.? From memory, I'd say my piece was about 1/16th on a?side. I tried to find it online, but Plastruct's web page is a mess.
Jamie Bothwell Bethlehem, PA
Well, you can never say never, but I've never seen any.
I suggest fabricating your own by edge gluing flat plastic or wood strips at the angle you want.? You can even file or sand an edge to have an angle for a better fitting joint.
For wood, if you have one of those little hobby table says, you could cut strips with an angle on one edge for gluing.? (22.5 degree edges will make 45 degrees when joined.)
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 03:10:06 PM PST, Frank Williams via <frankwilliams66= [email protected]> wrote:
Is 45 degree angle stock available, either in wood or plastic?
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Frank Williams
Yorktown, IN
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Bill, do you think they would consider producing turnouts?
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On Feb 2, 2025, at 6:13?PM, Bill Lane via groups.io <bill@...> wrote:
? Hans ? You must have missed my multiple mentions that Tomalco is now owned by Micro Engineering. Further my post today indirectly mentioned Tomalco and hoping to have new code 100 track available for the NASG convention. This 1 of the brighter news bits of the past month. ? Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! ? See my layout progress at:
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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Frank, There was a time when Plastruct offered a solid triangle shape. I have some somewhere, but it might take me a month to find it. It was probably an equilateral triangle which would make it 60¡ã angles.? From memory, I'd say my piece was about 1/16th on a?side. I tried to find it online, but Plastruct's web page is a mess.
Jamie Bothwell Bethlehem, PA
Well, you can never say never, but I've never seen any.
I suggest fabricating your own by edge gluing flat plastic or wood strips at the angle you want.? You can even file or sand an edge to have an angle for a better fitting joint.
For wood, if you have one of those little hobby table says, you could cut strips with an angle on one edge for gluing.? (22.5 degree edges will make 45 degrees when joined.)
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 03:10:06 PM PST, Frank Williams via <frankwilliams66= [email protected]> wrote:
Is 45 degree angle stock available, either in wood or plastic?
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Frank Williams
Yorktown, IN
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Re: Posting Only On Facebook
I was a late joiner to FB.? Most are for RR related groups.
What I did do upon joining was turning off as many notices (friends and others) as I could as was recommended by others.
The FB channel is a lot quieter.
Ken G
On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 6:14?PM Frank Williams via <frankwilliams66= [email protected]> wrote: I get a lot of enjoyment out of the various Facebook groups, especially Bill's fine scale group.
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If you can join FB and not get a bunch of other friends, but stick to your interests, you might be okay.
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Ted Larson
Ben
Bill Lane
David Dewey
John Degnan
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