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Re: Dumb Curiousity
There is plenty of people able to the design work and tool making out there if you have the funds to do it. Each mold will cost you about $100,000 dollars to create them. You will need 7 to 9 molds for a completely new engine if not more. Besides the tooling you will need electric motors and electronics plus wheel sets. Then you need the funds to run the first batch of the new engine. After the first run you have to paint, print, assemble and provide packaging so you can ship the new engine out to customers. All said and done you are at least $1,000,000 dollars into it before your first sale. It isn’t a cheap venture without capital to invest in it.? |
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Re: It's Official: No More Flyer
On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 03:32 PM, Andrew Parker wrote:
?I see in your photos ES 44s. Well, the trailing unit in the photo is an SD70.
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When I did my review in OGR back in 2012, I included photos of the SD70 on my 29" radius passing track.? The couplers were at their limits, but neither the AM gondola or PRS 50' boxcar derailed.
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Re: S scale switching layout plan
Tom.?
Here is my suggestion. A One Turnout Layout by Lance Mindheim.?
Lance also had a recent article in Model Railroaded Magazine describing a practice plank layout with all the tasks to try out the hobby. Ill follow up with details.?
Good luck with your adventure!
Charles.?
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All you need to know in four square feet. ?By Lance Mindheim.
Here is a post from 2024 in the MR Forum.
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Re: A F demise
开云体育Let me mention just a tiny bit of
history here.?
Much of the end of Flyer in the 60's
ended up at Hobby Surplus in large bins of parts.? When our lost
bid for the NASG convention and it's related car occured, Jack
Troxell still wanted a tank car train, so he built one!? He bought
a couple dozen of those very Shell Tank car shells and the chassis
for them.? There were only two pieces--- chassis with bottom half
of the tank, and then the top half of the tank.? Your photo shows
it's missing the metal railing, & the ladder.? I'm surprised
it has the safety plaque and brake wheel.? Regardless, he spent
about $2.00each.?
Of course it's well known what kinda
work he did with those cars!? I put one aside for my RR, but I
also have possession of all the jigs he made for that conversion.?
I guess they are for sale!? However the knowledge to actually make
new versions has been lost. ?
So yes, not worth anything much above a
couple of bucks back then so you can't expect much more today.? So
Lionel should have been aware of all the old stuff that probably
was of better quality when they opened that surprise box and let
the vampire live again!.?
Then we have old Rollie stomping on old
AF cabooses as he auctioned them off!
Bob Werre
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Re: Stokrocki and Lane in February RMC
开云体育The February RMC has not arrived up here in the Upper Left Corner yet, but that’s okay with me, because I just finished the January issue. ? In case you haven’t seen January, Jim Martin had the NASG inside cover shot with a beautiful scene. Even better, Jim also has a helpful article on an easy method to build a feed mill using mostly foamcore and printed building papers. Best part is, it’s cheap. The result is very realistic, and there’s a close up of the structure on page 69 that is truly breathtaking! As is the policy of RMC, Jim’s piece is clearly labeled as S scale. ? Thanks Jim, Roger Nulton ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brooks Stover via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2025 7:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [S-Scale] Stokrocki and Lane in February RMC ? Congratulations to Stan Stokrocki and Bill Lane who teamed up to provide the wonderful photo of a pair of Conrail diesels for the NASG ad in the February RMC.? Stan did the modeling and Bill took the photo which looks great opposite Scale Trains full-page ad.? This is the 34th ad in the series that started way back in May of 2022!? Starting with next month's issue, the 34 images will run again...all the way through December 2027...a total of 5 years and 8 months.? If you have an image of your modeling you'd like to see in RMC, get in touch with either me or Brian Jackson and we can work it in!? And thanks to all who have participated in this unique campaign that will have put an S layout photo in every RMC for almost 6 straight years. ? For those who don't read RMC, the photo will appear in the home page rotation on the NASG website shortly, as all the images do.
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Re: A F demise
Correction to previous reply : "NIB" instead of "NIV"
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Besides, I'm a KJB guy... wouldn't touch a NIV with someone else's hands.? (LOL)
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NIB = "New In Box" for those of you who don't know.
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Re: A F demise
开云体育 ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, Bill... ebay is the nail in AF's coffin.? I can't count the numbers of UNSELLING AF trains that are always listed on ebay, and at prices that one might think would guarantee a sale... but no.? It seems that sellers can't even "GIVE" them away.? And I can attest to that fact since I have been trying to sell TWO NIV Lionel/AF items for over 4 years on the GROUPS, and I have not had even ONE bite of interest in them... even listed at MAKE OFFER and pay postage prices.? So it looks like I'm literally going to have to throw them in the trash!
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A F demise
开云体育When you see the total saturation of Gilbert American Flyer for sale on eBay it is not a stretch to connect to Lionel eventually ending A F production. Considering Lionel have been doing repaints largely on the SAME shells as Gilbert for 40? years… If a Flyer guy wants a new car they are all over eBay for CHEAP. Take your pick. Why pay $60.00+ for a car? ?EBay is Lionel’s biggest competition. ? Thank You, ? See my layout progress at:
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Re: Converting an AF Royal Blue to scale
开云体育I sold my Hudson a few years ago to
Peter Loeb up in Idaho.? Actually it came back,? he actually owned
it twice;? Peter has lived an "interesting life" .? He's been very
quiet for a long time now.? I don't know what that means!?
Also just a few years ago, I sold
several Nimco engines that Jack Troxell had once owned.? His
included both the Nimco parts and original AF running gear.?
Since these were made so many years
ago--you gotta be there at the right time, then also realize? how
few that were actually made to start with.
I own a Overland (specialized UP
version) E3/6 that I bought from River Raisin.? I think 2 or 3
were made!? A white buffalo to be sure. Likewise, their price was
generally comfortable!
Bob Werre
On 1/29/25 9:05 AM, John Hutnick via
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Re: Unique Southern Pacific AC-5 Cab Forward 4-8-8-2 for sale
Oh, and SP Mike then. I have no SP references other than on line, so thank you. On Wed, Jan 29, 2025, 1:10?PM adguytrains via <bob.hogan=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Unique Southern Pacific AC-5 Cab Forward 4-8-8-2 for sale
Tommy.... This is a 120 SC-4 Espee tender. Dan paired it with a Espee MK-6 2-8-2. Bob On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 12:42?PM Tom Lennon via <milepost169=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Unique Southern Pacific AC-5 Cab Forward 4-8-8-2 for sale
开云体育Tommy, ? The motor is in the tender, one of the "features" of Jesse's locomotives! Kinda hard to change tenders! I will try to get some more photos this week, if I can remember where I put the engine (major remodeling going on here, so most everything is packed!). David PS wonder why he used the "wrong" number?? |
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Re: Converting an AF Royal Blue to scale
Almost everything the museum will be selling will appear here first. The on to ebay or s events or ebay. Tommy On Wed, Jan 29, 2025, 11:06?AM Austin Birkey via <aftrainfun=[email protected]> wrote:
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Corbin Bates
Charles Malinowski
Bob Werre
Roger Nulton
John Degnan
Bill Lane
Tom Lennon
David Dewey