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Re: It's Official: No More Flyer
Apparently very few here(or enough of anyone else) bought Lionel AF.? Mostly I have seen complaints in this group that it is toylike, flanges too big, etc., and now it is gone.? So we hope that somehow some other entity buys the Lionel AF tooling, to once again make a product that is no good and we will not buy? |
Re: Scale Trains has reefers on preorder
1955 photo of WRX 9091 is shown with paint scheme matching that for sale.?
There is also a 1963 photo of 9032 in a simpler paint scheme.??
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and there are also photos of white/gray cars; 1968, 1970 with even simpler paint scheme.??
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Ted Larson trainweb.org/mhrr/??????? --------??????? NASG.org??????? --------??????? GN in 1965 |
Re: S scale switching layout plan
Some topics that I think make a huge difference in what you do are:
- Big city vs small town,?
- What part of the country :?
- What types of industries you like
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for example: Switching at a small town in the center of the country is sidings parallel to the mainline tracks : in the city sidings may be parallel or run off at an angle :? modelers in the NE seem to like sidings in small towns to run off at angles to the mainline?
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Ted Larson trainweb.org/mhrr/??????? --------??????? NASG.org??????? --------??????? GN in 1965 |
Re: weigh this!
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI will elaborate my reasoning a bit?
--"ability" also includes those gentle curves/low grades if one
puts that over other requirements-- in my case, however the vast
majority of my curves are in the high 30's/lo to mid40's with
easements and token banking.? But in order to reach the vast
expanses of territory, without engineering abilities (knowledge or
space) we do what we can before smashing into the wall!
Then as the Great Plains Northern grew,
just like the proto's .? changes were made as needed.? In some
ways maybe too much but other ways I didn't create anything
impossible or too difficult to operate beyond the first couple of
times.? I've lived here since the early 70's and hardly anything
on our major roads has remained the same!? Since I'm not running
the freeways so much anymore, I'm surprised and lost a time or two
that those Civil Engineers manage to squeeze all those new lanes,
exit's and ramps into the same space!? But indeed I've enjoyed
doing exactly the opposite of...Coming back later to adjust things
is no fun at all.? The challenge has been a good chunk of my
enjoyment of the hobby!
I also remember some of the Minnesota
guys (Jasper & Zeska) doing several modifications/changes in
plans over the years==it's our little world, so floods,
earthquakes, fires and mud slides don't usually happen, but
changing a #6 to a #10 does!
So Pete, if you get the urge to re-lay
some heavier rail or reroute a siding, stop by, I've got the
tools, several lengths of rail and a half dozen kegs of spikes!?
Bob Werre
PhotoTraxx
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Re: Converting an AF Royal Blue to scale
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Let me look tomorrow, but I think the Museum has a partially converted Pacific that's available.? IIRC, it has scale disc drivers, a can motor conversion, and a few other bits.
I'll post something tomorrow.
Tommy Lennon
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Re: S Scale switching layout plan
I checked with Peter of the NASG. There are pictures of the NASG switching layout at??
There are no dimensions so it may be a bit wide. Ken G. On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 8:01?PM Mike Swederska via <MikeSscale=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: It's Official: No More Flyer
Soo sad.? ?Sorry Ed,? as much as I love all the stuff I have bought from you I'm now switching to Z guage. Andrew Parker
On Monday, January 27, 2025 at 02:51:24 PM PST, Hans von Draminski via groups.io <hvdjournal@...> wrote:
I hate to have been right on that topic a few weeks ago. Despite that I won't shed a tear for aged toy like reefers with pizza cutter flanges I see the bigger loss in the modern locos and rolling stock no one else made in S but Lionel. No more SD70. No more ES44. No more U33. And if I buy one of those used or NOS, no more scale wheels to get rid of the hirail wheelsets.
With 59 I am a bit too "young" for a flirt with transition era themes. US railroads for me are mile-long trains pulled by a bunch of modern traction power. Gone. I hope that someone buys just the tooling for that AF stuff from ten years ago and reissues it before I'm also dead and gone. Being in S means thinking in long terms. But not THAT long...
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Sad Greetings, Hans
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Re: S Scale switching layout plan
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMichael Eldridge has built an upsized "timesaver"-style layout, "Bass Creek Junction", to accomodate the S-scale rolling stock and a small Diesel locomotive.? It is on the Bay Area S Scalers website, .? It is powered by an NCE PowerCab DCC system.? I help out with setup, operation and teardown at public events a few times a year.? There are 4 sections, with overall dimensions of 2 x 14 feet.? The website has pictures and descriptions of the events we have setup at.?Starting with unloading our vehicles, it takes less than ONE hour to be running trains.? The operating guide takes the operator through 14 separate switching operations.? There is a link to the operating guide for the puzzle; scroll down the home page a bit to find it.? The guide includes illustrations of the overall layout.? Curious adults and their children are invited to operate a sequence or "two".? I invite everyone to check it out and ask questions. ? Dave McBrayer Auburn, CA ---------------- On 01/27/2025 5:01 PM, Mike Swederska
via groups.io wrote:
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Dave McBrayer Auburn, CA? |
Re: Scale Trains has reefers on preorder
David,
My advice is to have plenty of light, clean air and magnification to see how the paint is going on. Practice, practice, practice before painting your model. There is plenty of painting videos on youtube to watch. I am thinking you will be shooting water on your plastic so be sure and watch those videos on how to thin the paint.?
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Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16 https://www.youtube.com/@mikesscale3149 Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun! |
Re: It's Official: No More Flyer
On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 02:51 PM, Hans von Draminski wrote:
I hope that someone buys just the tooling for that AF stuff from ten years ago and reissues it before I'm also dead and gone.I think it highly unlikely that Lionel would sell off the Flyer tooling. ?
Rich G(ajnak) |
Converting an AF Royal Blue to scale
Yeah, I'm acting like a true heretic. But I'd like to convert the AF Royal Blue I bought for second to none a few years ago into a smooth running scale loco. And I remember that there were some conversion kits with scale wheels, another motor and other parts to modyfy it. Just don't find the forum posts where I read about it. The old motor is stuck, the AC switching unit still in place. But I also would like to put a DCC decoder into the old lady to make her a match to my AM K4 streamline.
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Greetings from Middle Franconia, Hans |
Re: It's Official: No More Flyer
I hate to have been right on that topic a few weeks ago. Despite that I won't shed a tear for aged toy like reefers with pizza cutter flanges I see the bigger loss in the modern locos and rolling stock no one else made in S but Lionel. No more SD70. No more ES44. No more U33. And if I buy one of those used or NOS, no more scale wheels to get rid of the hirail wheelsets.
With 59 I am a bit too "young" for a flirt with transition era themes. US railroads for me are mile-long trains pulled by a bunch of modern traction power. Gone. I hope that someone buys just the tooling for that AF stuff from ten years ago and reissues it before I'm also dead and gone. Being in S means thinking in long terms. But not THAT long...
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Sad Greetings, Hans |
Re: S Scale switching layout plan
Back in 2012, the Northern Ohio 'S' Scalers were working on a 18' switching layout.? Two 6ft sections with a 3ft single track extension at either end.? We took it to a handful of shows.? Attached are a couple photos of the layout in progress.? We worked on it in my basement.? After a while we could not get enough guys interested to complete and take it to more shows.
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-- John E. Henning |
Re: S Scale switching layout plan
Check out Rob Chant's blog? Also look for it on Facebook. Model Railroad Hobbyist has a trackplan database among its various discussions. ?Go to their discussion forum and use the menu in the upper left to search for track plans. Byron Henderson's LayoutVision has some ideas: Charles Weston
On Monday, January 27, 2025, 02:23:49 PM CST, John Hutnick via groups.io <johnhutnick@...> wrote:
If you want something very small to play with, this is an O scale layout that is 41"x16".? There is only one switch.? It is a handmade turnout that is 2 switches interlocked back to back.? Frogs are #3.? This is how the railroad is made small.
The second photo shows the back with a 2 track sliding traverser for moving freight cars.? It is behind the freight house, which can be unscrewed and an engine house substituted.? ?This layout is operated with 4-wheel engines and cars.? An AF mikado is shown in front for scale, along with a BEDT 0-6-0.
It would be hard to build something much smaller where you could do anything at a all.
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Re: S Scale switching layout plan
If you want something very small to play with, this is an O scale layout that is 41"x16".? There is only one switch.? It is a handmade turnout that is 2 switches interlocked back to back.? Frogs are #3.? This is how the railroad is made small.
The second photo shows the back with a 2 track sliding traverser for moving freight cars.? It is behind the freight house, which can be unscrewed and an engine house substituted.? ?This layout is operated with 4-wheel engines and cars.? An AF mikado is shown in front for scale, along with a BEDT 0-6-0.
It would be hard to build something much smaller where you could do anything at a all.
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Re: S Scale switching layout plan
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOn 1/27/2025 3:02 PM, John Hutnick via
groups.io wrote:
(snip) Nice!?? Looks like the Gum Stump & Snowshoe from an old Model Railroader . . .? always a favorite! Take care Bill -- == Author of Military Crime Fiction == Amazon Page - Fair Winds of Death Fair Winds of Deceit Fair Winds of Doubt == Scale Model Railroad Products == == Manufacturer - Retailer - Importer == Bill Wade B.T.S. 1782 Trinity Rd Belington, WV 26250-7621 Phone: 304-823-3729 Fair Winds Always! |
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