On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 07:08 AM, Anthony Salvate wrote:
looking for PA1 or PA2. A unit -scale- in NYC.
Anthony.... I have an American Models ALCO PA-PB-PA diesel lashup for sale.? Was undec, but now custom painted NYC lightning stripes, scale wheels, Kadee couplers, DCC decoders, crew, working diaphragms, test run only.? Will sell as a set, but not individually.? Why not write to me and ask for photos and details.? Thanks.......Ed Loizeaux
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Hi Pieter;
When I looked on the Thanksgiving sale page for S scale it only
showed a very few items offered. So I expect it is only the
slowest moving items in there inventory, not all there stock.
Nothing there I wanted, I would like to be mistaken on this. ? ??
Ian McKinley
On 11/30/2024 9:54 AM, Pieter Roos via
groups.io wrote:
In case anyone is not aware, Scale Trains has their remaining S
stock (caboose, boxcar, hopper) for 33% off.
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Anthony,? I have a matching pair of
PA's for sale for several months.? From what I can tell, they are
NIB, NYC paint, scale wheels too.? That's what you've asked for!?
Contact me:? Bob@...? for a photo or two if you're
really serious.?
As an aside,? I've often been curious
about how many sets that AM (or SHS, AF or ??) made for sale--gosh
I made those ad photos maybe 10-15 years ago, so that might be a
clue why they were still listed on line just a few weeks ago.?
Eventually things do sell out but if sales are that slow, the need
as been satisfied so not much demand for a 2nd run!? A couple
thousand S scalers are needed for more demand.
I do recall that Tom Marsh of Overland
made three runs of his SD40-2s.? If a 'run' was 100 units and he
produced several variations that I thought should be a decent run
and accomplishment to keep producing a popular product.? I'm sure
that Dan at RR in producing specific steam might not have produced
those numbers but hats off for that effort.? For me he just didn't
make enough UP items, then again I didn't have to buy any
Harriaman style models that could be dressed as UP!? Oh well!?
Bob Werre
PhotoTraxx/BBB
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Hi Ed,
Specifically looking for PA1 or PA2. A unit -scale- in NYC.
Regards,
Anthony Salvate
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Anthony,
What Loco's are you looking for?
Ed Sauers
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at
11:41?PM Anthony Salvate via <n1tks= [email protected]>
wrote:
Does anyone in the
group have any firsthand knowledge or thoughts on if
American Models will ever replenish their sold out
locomotive supply?
Best regards,
Anthony Salvate
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In case anyone is not aware, Scale Trains has their remaining S stock (caboose, boxcar, hopper) for 33% off.

Pieter Roos
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Since we have brought the subject up, what is the status of the USRA 4-6-2, Empire State Express, Pennsy Torpedo?
Are there any new steam engines being planned?? Is a USRA light 2-8-2 worthwhile, since the AF Flyer one is unacceptable to most in this group.
How does a manufacturer such as American even decide what to make?? ?Maybe much of what is written here does not convert into sales.
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I have spoken with Joe recently.
I asked him about new products. His answer was we have some projects in line.
Asked him about locos. The answer was there is a mix in the works.
You decide
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On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 11:41 PM, Anthony Salvate via groups.io <n1tks@...> wrote: Does anyone in the group have any firsthand knowledge or thoughts on if American Models will ever replenish their sold out locomotive supply?
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Anthony Salvate
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2024, 10:03 AM Bill Lane < bill@...> wrote: This time last week I was about to arrive at Mike Swederska’s house. The adventure began as soon as we turned in the driveway. Let’s just say Mikes lives every second of his life HIS way. His driveway is ? of a mile long going past his lakes. I have not gone fishing in almost 50 years but would like to go back and go fishing there with Mike. ? We spent the day with Mike. It was a great day. ? Since I was flying I tried to travel lighter and did into bring my tripod. I probably should have brought it. My photos a bit darker than I would like since I was using my flash. ? I will get the photos and videos to Peter V soon. No link this time if you did not get Stan’s photos you will not get these either. ? ? Thank You, Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! ? See my layout progress at:
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Hi Ed, Specifically looking for PA1 or PA2. A unit -scale- in NYC. Regards, Anthony Salvate
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On Nov 30, 2024, at 7:58?AM, EdSauers via groups.io <Dockside98@...> wrote:
? Anthony,
What Loco's are you looking for?
Ed Sauers On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 11:41?PM Anthony Salvate via <n1tks= [email protected]> wrote: Does anyone in the group have any firsthand knowledge or thoughts on if American Models will ever replenish their sold out locomotive supply?
Best regards,
Anthony Salvate
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This time last week I was about to arrive at Mike Swederska’s house. The adventure began as soon as we turned in the driveway. Let’s just say Mikes lives every second of his life HIS way. His driveway is ? of a mile long going past his lakes. I have not gone fishing in almost 50 years but would like to go back and go fishing there with Mike. ? We spent the day with Mike. It was a great day. ? Since I was flying I tried to travel lighter and did into bring my tripod. I probably should have brought it. My photos a bit darker than I would like since I was using my flash. ? I will get the photos and videos to Peter V soon. No link this time if you did not get Stan’s photos you will not get these either. ? ? Thank You, Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! ? See my layout progress at:
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society It's FREE to join!?? Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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Anthony,
What Loco's are you looking for?
Ed Sauers
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On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 11:41?PM Anthony Salvate via <n1tks= [email protected]> wrote: Does anyone in the group have any firsthand knowledge or thoughts on if American Models will ever replenish their sold out locomotive supply?
Best regards,
Anthony Salvate
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Which locomotive are you looking for, we have all kinds of them available?
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Re: Building Your Own Turnouts
That’s some majorly serious brass weaving!
Ben Trousdale
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Does anyone in the group have any firsthand knowledge or thoughts on if American Models will ever replenish their sold out locomotive supply? Best regards, Anthony Salvate
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Re: Building Your Own Turnouts
Hi Dave --
I remember some of those photos of your turnouts.? ?Seemed like it might have been easier to take a solid plate and mill out the flangeways!
Good to hear from you and I hope you had a fine turkey day! Bill Winans ----------------------------
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Bill, I always enjoy pictures of your trackwork. You can get such nice flowing tracks by hand laying it.?
Before I built my last layout, I looked at buying the jigs, but I would have needed so many variations, and some for only one turnout, so I didn't buy any. It was a good decision. One of the first turnouts I built for that layout was a 48"/44" curved dual gauge turnout. Originally I was planning on making the inner radius 45", but that made the turnout too large. It was large enough, and the K frog was huge, There was also a curved Sn2 track that ran across the two sets of rails just after the last frog. That layout had lots of curved turnouts, some asymmetrical wye turnouts and all kinds of dual gauge variations. And then there were the three dual gauge three-way stub turnouts. My favorite was the one where all three routes curved the same way. It got to the point where laying a standard turnout was kind of boring.
The track work on my current layout is not quite as adventurous, but I'm not finished yet.?
Dave Heine ------------------------ Learning how to hand lay turnouts allows for a lot of peculiar turnout shapes, various curved turnouts, asymmetrical?wyes, and so on.? ?Buying jigs for every possibility is grossly too expensive.? ?Building in place is fun.? If you mess with more?than one gauge, there are more than a dozen versions relating to dual gauge -- I know, because I think I have built at least one of every type.? Some photos are attached.? ?One is of a curved std gauge turnout of 75" and 78" radius that is two feet between the points and the frog, a #16.? You can't buy that!? There is also a photo of one of Dick Karnes' "puzzle tracks" where the turnouts also include a crossing through them.? Amazing!?
Have fun! Bill Winans
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Monster model works is offering a sale on their buildings. ?
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David Clubine?
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Re: Building Your Own Turnouts
Bill, I always enjoy pictures of your trackwork. You can get such nice flowing tracks by hand laying it.?
Before I built my last layout, I looked at buying the jigs, but I would have needed so many variations, and some for only one turnout, so I didn't buy any. It was a good decision. One of the first turnouts I built for that layout was a 48"/44" curved dual gauge turnout. Originally I was planning on making the inner radius 45", but that made the turnout too large. It was large enough, and the K frog was huge, There was also a curved Sn2 track that ran across the two sets of rails just after the last frog. That layout had lots of curved turnouts, some asymmetrical wye turnouts and all kinds of dual gauge variations. And then there were the three dual gauge three-way stub turnouts. My favorite was the one where all three routes curved the same way. It got to the point where laying a standard turnout was kind of boring.
The track work on my current layout is not quite as adventurous, but I'm not finished yet.?
Dave Heine ?
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On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 12:16?AM William Winans via <3W2scalesonly= [email protected]> wrote: Learning how to hand lay turnouts allows for a lot of peculiar turnout shapes, various curved turnouts, asymmetrical?wyes, and so on.? ?Buying jigs for every possibility is grossly too expensive.? ?Building in place is fun.? If you mess with more?than one gauge, there are more than a dozen versions relating to dual gauge -- I know, because I think I have built at least one of every type.? Some photos are attached.? ?One is of a curved std gauge turnout of 75" and 78" radius that is two feet between the points and the frog, a #16.? You can't buy that!? There is also a photo of one of Dick Karnes' "puzzle tracks" where the turnouts also include a crossing through them.? Amazing!?
Have fun! Bill Winans ----------------------------
On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 6:47?PM Richard Dombrowski via <heisler3x3= [email protected]> wrote:
I have used the fast tracks jigs in the past and found it goes
faster to make all the parts in batches rather than doing one
complete turnout. You get into a rhythm and playing music helps
too,
Rich D in Maine
On 11/28/2024 3:44 PM, Charles Kinzer
via wrote:
I think many feel that
building their own switches is some sort of daunting process.?
But if you can do some basic soldering, cutting of rail,
filing, and such, it is really just a bunch of individual
steps strung that I feel are well within most modeler's
capabilities.
Most of the switches at the
Central Coast Model Railroad at the San Luis Obispo Railroad
Museum were made using Fast Track fixtures.? Somebody with
average skills made most of them.? I don't think there is any
high skill level needed for any of the steps.? Just follow the
steps they have on their web site.
For somebody balking at the
idea of making their own switches, it might at least be worth
giving it a try.? Fast Track says the first switch might take
you three hours but eventually you can get it down to 45
minutes.? And many sizes AND wyes AND curved turnouts.
Yes.? It is a lot more work
than just buying them ready made.? But it does solve the
problem of "i can't find ready made switches I need."
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Thursday, November 28, 2024 at 12:06:33 PM PST, Bill
Roberts <bill@...> wrote:
> From: John Hutnick
> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 22:30:17 PST
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> . . . I suggest . . . building your own.
. . Give it a try.
For those who cannot wait for drop-in
turnouts, attached is a two-part Dick Karnes article on
building your own.
Dick uses an unusual approach to making the
frog. I myself have not built any turnouts using his
method, so I cannot comment on his technique. Instead, I
saved the article to try out on my next layout.
Otherwise, the recent discussion has revealed
many options for S scalers beyond the beginner stage. I
found the most interesting was the reference by TC
Talmadge to the kits from S Scale Track Works <>
that include the frog, guard rails, and point rails.
—
Bill Roberts
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Re: such a deal--no inflation--no gouging, but these aren't made anymore either!
Hi Bob, Shinohara turnouts - yes, looking for the #6 ones.? Nobody likes them, but I love them!? Let me know.
Charles Williams
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The Heralds are now in the dumpster--the recycling one!
Next up is the Tru Scale wooden roadbed and some Shinoraha turnouts--next week for those!
Bob Werre
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Spouse are dangerous to train stuff ?
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My wife pants with excitement at the thought of throwing more things out—at our ages not yet grounds for divorce but a serious difference of opinion.
S Heads,? I've been given a small stack of S Gauge Heralds.? So anybody with $12.00 for shipping only, can receive these valuable timeless issues!? I just want to cover the shipping costs.? I'll occasionally dig out an article mentioned on
this list--then I spend a couple of hours looking over other issues.? Names from the past will enrich your knowledge of our merry band!?
Hurry, cause, my wife is on a terror campaign to unearth some room for more of her things!? Not to mention the garbage can is now empty leaving lots of room!
Bob Werre
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Re: Black Friday sale--it's really just a great time to buy from the BBB!
As to old mags that don't sell -? I take piles to any train shows and put on the FREE table. Of course, what I consider rare, I might try to sell by bundles at a show.? Jeff Madden
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Shane,? I sold several from a prior set
of offerings, just not the right time for your needs I guess.? Of
course eventually my stuff will be sold but right now, I'm
enjoying them just a bit too much.? So I guess that means you'll
have to stay around? few more years past my expiration date!
Bob Werre
I'm looking for 50 foot double door box cars from
S Scale America. I don't see any of those in your picture.
? What can I say?? Please don't ignore the clearance sale
the BBB seems to be running constantly--yes corporate
greed running wild!? I think it was Jay Leno once said
that Mattresses are always on sale!? I don't get many
sales offers from hobby shops --their just waiting till I
collect my % from my sales--like a tariff perhaps!
Anyway many of these freight cars are still available ,
SHS/AM (attached), I also mentioned that I've got some
very desirable brass (SP cabooses, (painted), RR open
hopper (painted+lettered), a couple of SouthWind passenger
cars, an Overland E9 E unit,? AM PA's and E units too.?
Coming up will be some realestate Bar Mills, man those
kits are great!
And last but certainly not least, I have one large batch
of AM,Rex and mis cars that are great stocking stuffers,
or even better, buy the lot for a few $$ and tell the wife
that you bought all those cars for almost nothing then
she'll forgive you for those really expensive brass
thoughts!
Bob Werre
BBB
I didn't see one from Des Plaines either, and
I was hoping to get some more box cars. I am running one
though Sunday night on Tomalco Track but that's probably
not what you are looking for.
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024,
10:03 AM Mike Swederska via
<MikeSscale= [email protected]>
wrote:
Has anybody gotten a black Friday sale email from
any of the S-Scale Hobby Shop’s? I normally get one
from Des Plains and other Hobby Shop’s that I’ve
done business with but this year the only one I got
was Tonystrainexchange and it was for N & HO
Scale Locomotive’s.
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Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough!
Keep model railroading fun!
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Re: Black Friday sale--it's really just a great time to buy from the BBB!
Shane,? I sold several from a prior set
of offerings, just not the right time for your needs I guess.? Of
course eventually my stuff will be sold but right now, I'm
enjoying them just a bit too much.? So I guess that means you'll
have to stay around? few more years past my expiration date!
Bob Werre
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I'm looking for 50 foot double door box cars from
S Scale America. I don't see any of those in your picture.
? What can I say?? Please don't ignore the clearance sale
the BBB seems to be running constantly--yes corporate
greed running wild!? I think it was Jay Leno once said
that Mattresses are always on sale!? I don't get many
sales offers from hobby shops --their just waiting till I
collect my % from my sales--like a tariff perhaps!
Anyway many of these freight cars are still available ,
SHS/AM (attached), I also mentioned that I've got some
very desirable brass (SP cabooses, (painted), RR open
hopper (painted+lettered), a couple of SouthWind passenger
cars, an Overland E9 E unit,? AM PA's and E units too.?
Coming up will be some realestate Bar Mills, man those
kits are great!
And last but certainly not least, I have one large batch
of AM,Rex and mis cars that are great stocking stuffers,
or even better, buy the lot for a few $$ and tell the wife
that you bought all those cars for almost nothing then
she'll forgive you for those really expensive brass
thoughts!
Bob Werre
BBB
I didn't see one from Des Plaines either, and
I was hoping to get some more box cars. I am running one
though Sunday night on Tomalco Track but that's probably
not what you are looking for.
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024,
10:03 AM Mike Swederska via
<MikeSscale= [email protected]>
wrote:
Has anybody gotten a black Friday sale email from
any of the S-Scale Hobby Shop’s? I normally get one
from Des Plains and other Hobby Shop’s that I’ve
done business with but this year the only one I got
was Tonystrainexchange and it was for N & HO
Scale Locomotive’s.
--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough!
Keep model railroading fun!
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Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving with family!
As a Black Friday special, we are offering 10% off any of our products sold via this group through Sunday December 1st at midnight. You can see all our offerings on our Ebay store-
You should be able to search specific items within our store using "S Helper", "Amer Models" etc.
If you'd like to purchase any of our items, you need to contact us directly via email at DepotGHobbies at outlook dot com with a description of the item and your zip code for shipping. We'll respond as to availability, price and shipping. This discount is not available through Ebay directly.
Best regards,
Jim Marski/Depot G Hobbies/'Jeeps' on Ebay 
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