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Re: Today¡¯s S Scale project

 

Mike,

Please do post your in progress photos. You have incomparable skills that provide so much inspiration to us! I tried to build some SSL&S kits when I first entered the scale side of the hobby and failed. My Pacific was cosmetically completed but I could not get it to run worth a darn, so I gave it to a friend more experienced in building steam, but he had no luck either.

Thanks, Roger Nulton

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Swederska
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2024 8:37 AM
To: S Scale Groups IO Post To Group Email <[email protected]>
Subject: [S-Scale] Today¡¯s S Scale project

Over the many 20 to 30 years of modeling an S Scale I have always been on the lookout to buy SSL&S Parts. I like to buy kits that some guys have started and failed on are from the estates that somebody is selling. Back around 2011 or 12 I bought, a parts box of all kinds of detail parts. Once I opened it up, I found that a lot of it was for a consolidation with 56 inch drivers so I just kind of put it all back in the box and the other day I decided to go through this box itemize the detail parts and put them in my inventory for future used.

Upon doing so I decided to start building the consolidation since I had a set of drivers and side rods and the frame to start from. So scrounging through my inventory. I started to build it and you can see by the picture I have an assortment of parts laid out. I¡¯m at the valve gear step and I just happen to be a Walsherts valve guy and not so much a baker valve Gear guy.

After talking to a buddy of mine about the different valve gears, and then he brings up the needle bearing issue and the maintenance that the prototype didn¡¯t have to deal with on Baker valve gear using needle bearings. He really pushed me in the Baker direction.

Although the Walsherts valve gear was designed to be on the outside of the locomotive compared to the Stevenson and other valve gear systems allowing the engineer to lubricate everything consistently during operation. The. Walsherts valve gear actually performed very well with low maintenance . But after talking with him and reading his dissertation on Baker and needle bearings I¡¯ve decided maybe to try my hand at a baker valve system on this consolidation.

I¡¯m building it for the Meramec Valley lines so I¡¯m referring to this model as a mutt because it¡¯s going to be made up of all the parts that I¡¯ve collected over the years.
Upon going through some of my parts that I got from Rusty¡®s estate I found a full set of Baker valve gear that looks to me like it came off of an 0-8-0 Overland or consolidation. I am likely to use that , if not, I¡¯m gonna go with the Walsherts valve gear. I can darn put one of those together in my sleep.
I should say that all the parts in this picture are out of my inventory of parts including those cylinders.

So with all this said, let me know if you want me to post progress pictures.

Mike Swederska

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Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16

Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!


Re: Today¡¯s S Scale project

 

Yes, please!

On Jun 22, 2024, at 11:37?AM, Mike Swederska <MikeSscale@...> wrote:

?Over the many 20 to 30 years of modeling an S Scale I have always been on the lookout to buy SSL&S Parts. I like to buy kits that some guys have started and failed on are from the estates that somebody is selling. Back around 2011 or 12 I bought, a parts box of all kinds of detail parts. Once I opened it up, I found that a lot of it was for a consolidation with 56 inch drivers so I just kind of put it all back in the box and the other day I decided to go through this box itemize the detail parts and put them in my inventory for future used.

Upon doing so I decided to start building the consolidation since I had a set of drivers and side rods and the frame to start from. So scrounging through my inventory. I started to build it and you can see by the picture I have an assortment of parts laid out. I¡¯m at the valve gear step and I just happen to be a Walsherts valve guy and not so much a baker valve Gear guy.

After talking to a buddy of mine about the different valve gears, and then he brings up the needle bearing issue and the maintenance that the prototype didn¡¯t have to deal with on Baker valve gear using needle bearings. He really pushed me in the Baker direction.

Although the Walsherts valve gear was designed to be on the outside of the locomotive compared to the Stevenson and other valve gear systems allowing the engineer to lubricate everything consistently during operation. The. Walsherts valve gear actually performed very well with low maintenance . But after talking with him and reading his dissertation on Baker and needle bearings I¡¯ve decided maybe to try my hand at a baker valve system on this consolidation.

I¡¯m building it for the Meramec Valley lines so I¡¯m referring to this model as a mutt because it¡¯s going to be made up of all the parts that I¡¯ve collected over the years.
Upon going through some of my parts that I got from Rusty¡®s estate I found a full set of Baker valve gear that looks to me like it came off of an 0-8-0 Overland or consolidation. I am likely to use that , if not, I¡¯m gonna go with the Walsherts valve gear. I can darn put one of those together in my sleep.
I should say that all the parts in this picture are out of my inventory of parts including those cylinders.

So with all this said, let me know if you want me to post progress pictures.

Mike Swederska

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Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16

Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!





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Standard Gauge Brass 3-truck WSLCo. Shay for sale...........

 

Rich G(ajnak) wrote:? Last I looked P-B-L is the last S brass importer standing and their products are 99.99% narrow gauge.?

Hey Rich.......(and others)...........

Please note that I am in the .01% who has a standard gauge PBL imported brass Shay for sale (test run only, with decoder).? Not only a brass Shay, but also a couple of logging skels and a WSLCo. caboose (scratch built to look more appropriate with standard gauge equipment).? Buy the entire train if you have a hankering.? None of it is cheap, but all of it is wonderful.? Just wanted you to know that us .01 per centers are alive and kicking.??

Name yer price and let's talk.

Email preferred.? Phone works.? ? ? Loizeaux // aht // SBC // Global? ?daht? ?net? ? ? ? 1-650-962-1577

Cheers.........Ed Loizeaux??


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Ed Loizeaux
Los Altos, CA


Re: I missed that email

 

On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 07:11 AM, Brian Jackson wrote:
Rich, I take your point, but let's say someone wants to buy a new brass steam locomotive in HO these days? There are none to be found new.
You'd have to take that up with the surviving HO brass builders.

It's certainly that's not going to be an incentive for those HO folks to switch to S, is it?? After all, S has such a readily available w-i-d-e selection of brass to choose from.? Last I looked P-B-L is the last S brass importer standing and their products are 99.99% narrow gauge.?

Rich G(ajnak)


Re: WTB: SHS Caboose Trucks

 

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I really don't appreciate your tone.? If I were writing for the detail-obsessed I could have said AF-compatible, but I was under the impression that this was a group of well-disposed sociable modelers.

Jace Kahn



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Thomas Stoltz <tstoltz@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2024 10:39 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [S-Scale] WTB: SHS Caboose Trucks
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< SHS trucks can be AF flanges, as I do still?have scale wheelset replacements.>

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I had to reply to this because this notion is a real turnoff and it is dead wrong.? SHS wheelsets are Hi-rail, not AF.? Or they can also be scale, but they are never Flyer.? If you don¡¯t know the difference, please have a look at the NASG¡¯s Third Edition of World of S Models.

Tom Stoltz

in Maine

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Today¡¯s S Scale project

 

Over the many 20 to 30 years of modeling an S Scale I have always been on the lookout to buy SSL&S Parts. I like to buy kits that some guys have started and failed on are from the estates that somebody is selling. Back around 2011 or 12 I bought, a parts box of all kinds of detail parts. Once I opened it up, I found that a lot of it was for a consolidation with 56 inch drivers so I just kind of put it all back in the box and the other day I decided to go through this box itemize the detail parts and put them in my inventory for future used.

Upon doing so I decided to start building the consolidation since I had a set of drivers and side rods and the frame to start from. So scrounging through my inventory. I started to build it and you can see by the picture I have an assortment of parts laid out. I¡¯m at the valve gear step and I just happen to be a Walsherts valve guy and not so much a baker valve Gear guy.

After talking to a buddy of mine about the different valve gears, and then he brings up the needle bearing issue and the maintenance that the prototype didn¡¯t have to deal with on Baker valve gear using needle bearings. He really pushed me in the Baker direction.

Although the Walsherts valve gear was designed to be on the outside of the locomotive compared to the Stevenson and other valve gear systems allowing the engineer to lubricate everything consistently during operation. The. Walsherts valve gear actually performed very well with low maintenance . But after talking with him and reading his dissertation on Baker and needle bearings I¡¯ve decided maybe to try my hand at a baker valve system on this consolidation.

I¡¯m building it for the Meramec Valley lines so I¡¯m referring to this model as a mutt because it¡¯s going to be made up of all the parts that I¡¯ve collected over the years.
Upon going through some of my parts that I got from Rusty¡®s estate I found a full set of Baker valve gear that looks to me like it came off of an 0-8-0 Overland or consolidation. I am likely to use that , if not, I¡¯m gonna go with the Walsherts valve gear. I can darn put one of those together in my sleep.
I should say that all the parts in this picture are out of my inventory of parts including those cylinders.

So with all this said, let me know if you want me to post progress pictures.

Mike Swederska

--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16

Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!


Re: WTB: SHS Caboose Trucks

 

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< SHS trucks can be AF flanges, as I do still?have scale wheelset replacements.>

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I had to reply to this because this notion is a real turnoff and it is dead wrong.? SHS wheelsets are Hi-rail, not AF.? Or they can also be scale, but they are never Flyer.? If you don¡¯t know the difference, please have a look at the NASG¡¯s Third Edition of World of S Models.

Tom Stoltz

in Maine

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Re: I missed that email

 
Edited

Rich, I take your point, but let's say someone wants to buy a new brass steam locomotive in HO these days? There are none to be found new. The new breed of plastic-and-diecast steam locomotives look to be fine models, but the prototypes offered are generally limited to the perennial favorites everyone likes--Big Boys, Challengers, Niagaras, Hudsons, K4s., USRA mikes, et al.? ?

Brian Jackson
Springfield, IL


SHS Cabooses Interior

 

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I just opened up the used caboose I bought a few weeks ago and some things seem to be missing.? I've only owned a few others over the years and opened up only one of those, but I don't recall what was in that one.??

It might be useful if some kind soul would photograph both sides of the interior as a reference point (Peter Van Vliet might well find it helpful to add to the NASG webpages).? I had forgotten how much electronic stuff was in it just for the markers and one incandescent interior bulb.? I wonder whether Scale Trains has improved the electronics with LED technology or simply reproduced the older one?

Jace Kahn



Sold-Price reduced-W A Drake gondola is sold

 

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The W A Drake Union Pacific gondola is sold.


Wade Schlinger





Begin forwarded message:

From: Wade Schlinger <wkschlinger@...>
Date: June 22, 2024 at 6:46:17?AM CDT
To: [email protected]
Subject: [S-Scale] Price reduced-W A Drake gondola for sale
Reply-To: [email protected]

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I have a W A Drake Union Pacific gondola for sale.
I have attached pictures of both sides of the model.
Price reduced from $160.00 to $140.00 plus $15.00 shipping to the lower 48.
If interested, contact me off group at wkschlinger@...
I accept PayPal friends and family and personal check for payment.
If you pay by check, I will ship the model once the check clears.

Wade Schlinger





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Sold-Price reduced again-B & O Overland EMD F-7 A and B units are sold

 

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The B & O Overland EMD F-7 A and B units are sold.

Wade Schlinger






Begin forwarded message:

From: Wade Schlinger <wkschlinger@...>
Date: June 22, 2024 at 6:35:34?AM CDT
To: [email protected]
Subject: [S-Scale] Price reduced again-B & O Overland EMD F-7 A and B units for sale
Reply-To: [email protected]

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I have a set of Overland B & O EMD F-7 A and B units for sale.
I have attached pictures of both sides of each model.
Price reduced from $300.00 to $250.00 and I will pay shipping to the lower 48.
In the first photo of the A unit, the spacing between the I and the M in the word Baltimore is tight.
The motor shaft slips in the black housing causing the engine not to run properly.
This will need to be fixed. See the last photo attached.
If interested, contact me off group at wkschlinger@...
I accept PayPal friends and family and personal checks for payment.
If you pay check, I will ship the models once the check clears.

Wade Schlinger





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Re: I missed that email

 

Bill, that's pretty much my point.? New and available is in the past for the most part.? What was new and available 10, 20, 30 years ago is no longer relevant to today's person considering S.

Rich G(ajnak)


Re: I missed that email

 

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Rich

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I would have to give significant thought to what pieces were - but most of my original brass and SHS purchases were new. Opening a box of new brass really had a SMELL to it. It is was an awesome smell too.

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It is all a bit blurry now. And pretty much everything bought now would be considered used.

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Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:

Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

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See my layout progress at:



Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!?
?
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL

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Price reduced-W A Drake gondola for sale

 

I have a W A Drake Union Pacific gondola for sale.
I have attached pictures of both sides of the model.
Price reduced from $160.00 to $140.00 plus $15.00 shipping to the lower 48.
If interested, contact me off group at wkschlinger@...
I accept PayPal friends and family and personal check for payment.
If you pay by check, I will ship the model once the check clears.

Wade Schlinger


Price reduced again-B & O Overland EMD F-7 A and B units for sale

 

I have a set of Overland B & O EMD F-7 A and B units for sale.
I have attached pictures of both sides of each model.
Price reduced from $300.00 to $250.00 and I will pay shipping to the lower 48.
In the first photo of the A unit, the spacing between the I and the M in the word Baltimore is tight.
The motor shaft slips in the black housing causing the engine not to run properly.
This will need to be fixed. See the last photo attached.
If interested, contact me off group at wkschlinger@...
I accept PayPal friends and family and personal checks for payment.
If you pay check, I will ship the models once the check clears.

Wade Schlinger


Re: I missed that email

 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 04:04 PM, Bill Lane wrote:
I missed the email that there is ¡°nothing made in S Scale¡±.
It's not so much that nothing is made, it's that it's not really available.? While I don't have an inventory comparable to Bill's, it's an accumulation gathered over the past 30 or so years.? Probably less than 3% was purchased NEW in the past few years and most of those were club cars.?

Rich G(ajnak)


Re: I missed that email

 

I have always felt myself to be "S".? ? I went through a phase in college when I tried "HO" but I wasn't comfortable. I have friends who are into the "O" scene but its not for me.

Andrew Parker

On Friday, June 21, 2024 at 04:04:10 PM PDT, Bill Lane via groups.io <bill@...> wrote:


I have mostly pulled back from engaging the ¡°other scales¡± about S. They are almost definitely not going to change. I currently have 214 locos 860 freight cars and 160 passenger cars. I missed the email that there is ¡°nothing made in S Scale¡±.

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People find me once every year+ that are about to cross over I just seal the deal. Those are the people I spend the time with.

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Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:

Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

?

See my layout progress at:



Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL

?


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Re: Free to a Good Home

 

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Jamie, thinking about Spike, has anybody done anything with Bill Fraley's? character, "Lottie Steamchester"!? Looks like the artwork would make a decent billboard!
Bob Werre

Hi All,
In the spirit of Bob's Bargain Basement, here's an offer from Jamie's Free Front Porch! Anyone need some industries for their?layout? There's a steel fabricator and a power plant. First person coming to Harrisburg who wants them gets them. (Then shipping is free too!) There's also a double track tunnel portal and Spike. (Anyone want Spike? I forgot to get Spike today, but he might still?be there if anyone wants him.)
Jamie Bothwell
A bit north of Trumbauersville



Free to a Good Home

 

Hi All,
In the spirit of Bob's Bargain Basement, here's an offer from Jamie's Free Front Porch! Anyone need some industries for their?layout? There's a steel fabricator and a power plant. First person coming to Harrisburg who wants them gets them. (Then shipping is free too!) There's also a double track tunnel portal and Spike. (Anyone want Spike? I forgot to get Spike today, but he might still?be there if anyone wants him.)
Jamie Bothwell
A bit north of Trumbauersville


1/64 Scale trucks

 

To all looking for S scale semi trucks,? 3000Toys.com currently has a 1950 Kenworth Bullnose cabover and a 1955 Peterbilt 281.? ?The Kenworth is $43.99

Regards,?

Andrew Parker