National Allergy Strategy Group

North American Stamping Group

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I think Michael hit the nail on the head. This is exactly why I returned to S Scale, ease of building models and putting a few scenes on a layout in my rather small space. It makes since to seek out other modelers that will more easily see the advantages of S scale as a builders scale. Rather then to some how entice another three thousand modelers into the scale who want modern stuff and will therefor attract manufactures to build it. I do think P48 is on the cutting edge of building models, however it takes a lot of space to build a scene. If you want to have a realistic scene in a reasonable space for your built models to be displayed, S Scale is a great choice. The builders have been the history of S and they are also the future.

Ian McKinley

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 05:43 PM, Ed Loizeaux wrote:

And so, without fanfare, here is what the HO guys in the San Francisco area have told me:? "There is not enough S product available to build the accurate authentic complete layout which I envision."?

I wasn't going to jump in until I saw this. My contention all along has been that most HO railroaders' goals are different from most S scale railroaders' goals. Model railroading has always been a big tent with lots of sub-rooms. I enjoy building models, and am less interested in building a layout except as a place to put my finished models. Jack Burgess wanted to build the Yosemite Valley railroad in August 1939, so S scale would be a poor choice. At the same time, there are plenty of HO modelers who enter scratch-built models in the NMRA contests - models that took a year or more to build.?

I believe we make two mistakes when we advocate switching from HO to S scale. We tend to lump all HO modelers into one box, and we try to appeal to them all in the same way. So, to address Mike's original question, I would emphasize that S scale modeling is in many ways a different hobby, or at least a different feel, than modeling in more popular scales. I would assiduously avoid telling people that they can do the same things in S that they can do in HO or N scale. The people most likely to "convert" are the people that are already doing what works well in S Scale. Because of my emphasis in the hobby, the fertile areas for me to find people that are willing to build models would be RPM meets and NMRA model contests, so I try to put models in those whenever I can. The LD-OP sig is not the place for me, but maybe another S Scaler that emphasizes operations should show there.?

-Michael Eldridge

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On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 05:43 PM, Ed Loizeaux wrote:

And so, without fanfare, here is what the HO guys in the San Francisco area have told me:? "There is not enough S product available to build the accurate authentic complete layout which I envision."?

I wasn't going to jump in until I saw this. My contention all along has been that most HO railroaders' goals are different from most S scale railroaders' goals. Model railroading has always been a big tent with lots of sub-rooms. I enjoy building models, and am less interested in building a layout except as a place to put my finished models. Jack Burgess wanted to build the Yosemite Valley railroad in August 1939, so S scale would be a poor choice. At the same time, there are plenty of HO modelers who enter scratch-built models in the NMRA contests - models that took a year or more to build.?

I believe we make two mistakes when we advocate switching from HO to S scale. We tend to lump all HO modelers into one box, and we try to appeal to them all in the same way. So, to address Mike's original question, I would emphasize that S scale modeling is in many ways a different hobby, or at least a different feel, than modeling in more popular scales. I would assiduously avoid telling people that they can do the same things in S that they can do in HO or N scale. The people most likely to "convert" are the people that are already doing what works well in S Scale. Because of my emphasis in the hobby, the fertile areas for me to find people that are willing to build models would be RPM meets and NMRA model contests, so I try to put models in those whenever I can. The LD-OP sig is not the place for me, but maybe another S Scaler that emphasizes operations should show there.?

-Michael Eldridge

No, I was responding specifically to the statement about just purchasing prebuilt, pre-decorated stuff.? There just isn't much actual modeling involved in opening a blisterpack and pouring a finished product out onto the flextrack.? As always, Tom Dempsey

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Who are we and what do we call ourselves? ?? It's a question older than time that probably started with "me not neanderthal; me troglodyte!"

One poster mentioned that 'gauger' is an outdated term for our group of 3/16 modelers.? Yea, I concur since "gauge" references distance between rails.? Scalers would be a better term, but Flyer folks might be offended.

Modelers is fairly generic, and even putting a flyer loco on the track is working with a model, so it is inclusive.

So what do we need to do to get the NASG renamed to NASM? with the word "Modelers" replacing "Gaugers"?


Rats, the plot thickens . . .? NASM is the National Academy of Sports Medicine and nasm.org is already used by them.?

So we go with NASMTM - National Association of S Model Train Modelers.

But wait, some are just collecting stuff in boxes.? ? NASMTMAC it is! ? National Association of S Model Train Modelers And Collectors.??

With tongue still firmly secured in my cheek, I think you get the point and will agree with another old adage, slightly modified . . . you can please some of the people all the time, all of the people some of the time, and none of the S folks at any time!!?

Y'all take care now, ya hear!? ;-)
Bill

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On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 07:40 AM, Mike Swederska wrote:

My goodness, did this topic ever go down a different route than what I originally asked about. I never asked about good or bad. Let’s pull this train into the station.

I was looking for what you think is the greatest thing about S you would point out if you had just one moment in front of a very large crowd that was not modeling in 3/16.

Well, the problem is one mans greatest is another mans "say what???"? One could say camaraderie, size, challenge, etc. but those are pretty nebulous answers.? The same things occur in the other scales.

I would probably still say the AM FP7 because that's what got me to jump scales from HO back in '85, but that statement wouldn't resonate with HO and N folks today who are becoming accustomed to prototype-specific mass produced models be they historic or contemporary.

Rich G(ajnak)

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