Re: 650-Zoom Bluetooth to Microsoft Surface Pro #aa-650-zoom

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 04:08 PM, Keith Ballow KN5G wrote:

I fooled around on the Surface and got it to “Pair” with the 650 Zoom, and even managed to get the Surface to assign the 650 Zoom a COM Port.

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In the AntScope2 software settings, the COM 3 port shows up and I can click on the “Connect Analyzer” button but the software never seems to connect to the 650 Zoom. The top line of the software continues to show, “Analyzer Not Connected”.

If you look in the drop down menu is there another COM port other than COM3 assigned to the Zoom?? If so try select that port and try it.?

Roger

Re: 650-Zoom Bluetooth to Microsoft Surface Pro #aa-650-zoom

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I am making some progress it seems with getting the AA-650 Zoom to connect with my Microsoft Surface Pro, but I’m not there yet.

I fooled around on the Surface and got it to “Pair” with the 650 Zoom, and even managed to get the Surface to assign the 650 Zoom a COM Port.

In the AntScope2 software settings, the COM 3 port shows up and I can click on the “Connect Analyzer” button but the software never seems to connect to the 650 Zoom. The top line of the software continues to show, “Analyzer Not Connected”.

I’m not certain what all I did to get the 650 Zoom to pair with the Surface laptop but below are some screen shots of various setup screens I navigated through in the process.

Just wondering if anyone has had success getting the 650 Zoom to talk via Bluetooth to a Window’s 10 machine, and even better has anyone documented the steps needed to be successful?

Thanks,

Keith

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KN5G

At this screen I selected “Add a Device” and cycled the power on the 650 Zoom before it would appear in the list of devices.

The 650 Zoom showed up in the Bluetooth devices list after manually adding it.

Then in the Bluetooth Device section I went into additional options to assign a COM port to the 650 Zoom.

I will keep poking at it as I have time. Maybe it will give up and decide to connect !

73…

KN5G?

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On Jul 28, 2021, at 8:25 PM, Keith Ballow KN5G <keith@...> wrote:

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Thank you! I will give that a try!
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Keith
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Subject: Re: [RigExpert Family] 650-Zoom Bluetooth to Microsoft Surface Pro #aa-650-zoom
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Keith,

Using Bluetooth in Windows is not as simple as iOS.? On Windows 10 you have to manually go into the Bluetooth settings, find the RigExpert device and then "pair" with it.?? One you are paired Windows? will create a COM port and then you can manually connect to it in AntScope2 using "Connect to Analyser" in the Settings.?

Roger

Re: AA-650 Zoom with AntScope2

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If the OSL calibration procedure is performed in the AA-650 Zoom, then when the analyzer is connected to AntScope2, the program will ignore the calibration. The program takes raw data from the analyzer.

Regards, Alex

29.07.2021 14:48, michaelsurplice via groups.io пишет:

Can I ask a really stupid question on this topic, if you calibrate the analyser prior to connecting, by whatever means, to a device with antscope running does it not use the data when plotting the chart or does it ignore i??

Kindest regards

Mike M0AZE?

On 29 Jul 2021, at 09:57, Stuart Uggen / K7ALM <K7ALM@...> wrote:

?Thanks for the clarification, Roger!
Stu

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On Jul 28, 2021, at 4:16 PM, Roger Need via groups.io <sailtamarack@...> wrote:

?On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 01:20 PM, Stuart Uggen / K7ALM wrote:

That doesn’t match up with my Antscope 2. Go to “Settings” on lower left corner of 1st page. You should see three tabs after clicking on the settings button. The 3rd tab from the left is Cable”. I don’t use this software often enough to really know it, but, this goes beyond “No cable loss tool”.
GL

Stu

K7ALM

Stu,

The Cable tab that you see under Settings have nothing to do with calculating Cable Loss.? They are used so that AntScope2 can add or subtract a transmission cable length from the calculations.?? This is typically used when you are measuring at the shack end of a transmission line and want to know what the readings would be at the other end.?

Roger

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Re: AA-650 Zoom with AntScope2

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Can I ask a really stupid question on this topic, if you calibrate the analyser prior to connecting, by whatever means, to a device with antscope running does it not use the data when plotting the chart or does it ignore i??

Kindest regards

Mike M0AZE?

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On 29 Jul 2021, at 09:57, Stuart Uggen / K7ALM <K7ALM@...> wrote:

?Thanks for the clarification, Roger!
Stu
K7ALM

On Jul 28, 2021, at 4:16 PM, Roger Need via groups.io <sailtamarack@...> wrote:

?On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 01:20 PM, Stuart Uggen / K7ALM wrote:

That doesn’t match up with my Antscope 2. Go to “Settings” on lower left corner of 1st page. You should see three tabs after clicking on the settings button. The 3rd tab from the left is Cable”. I don’t use this software often enough to really know it, but, this goes beyond “No cable loss tool”.
GL

Stu

K7ALM

Stu,

The Cable tab that you see under Settings have nothing to do with calculating Cable Loss.? They are used so that AntScope2 can add or subtract a transmission cable length from the calculations.?? This is typically used when you are measuring at the shack end of a transmission line and want to know what the readings would be at the other end.?

Roger

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Re: AA-650 Zoom with AntScope2

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Thanks for the clarification, Roger!

Stu

K7ALM

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On Jul 28, 2021, at 4:16 PM, Roger Need via groups.io <sailtamarack@...> wrote:

?On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 01:20 PM, Stuart Uggen / K7ALM wrote:

That doesn’t match up with my Antscope 2. Go to “Settings” on lower left corner of 1st page. You should see three tabs after clicking on the settings button. The 3rd tab from the left is Cable”. I don’t use this software often enough to really know it, but, this goes beyond “No cable loss tool”.
GL

Stu

K7ALM

Stu,

The Cable tab that you see under Settings have nothing to do with calculating Cable Loss.? They are used so that AntScope2 can add or subtract a transmission cable length from the calculations.?? This is typically used when you are measuring at the shack end of a transmission line and want to know what the readings would be at the other end.?

Roger

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Re: 650-Zoom Bluetooth to Microsoft Surface Pro #aa-650-zoom

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Thank you! I will give that a try!

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Keith

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roger Need via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 18:13
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RigExpert Family] 650-Zoom Bluetooth to Microsoft Surface Pro #aa-650-zoom

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Keith,

Using Bluetooth in Windows is not as simple as iOS.? On Windows 10 you have to manually go into the Bluetooth settings, find the RigExpert device and then "pair" with it.?? One you are paired Windows? will create a COM port and then you can manually connect to it in AntScope2 using "Connect to Analyser" in the Settings.?

Roger

Re: AA-650 Zoom with AntScope2

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On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 01:20 PM, Stuart Uggen / K7ALM wrote:

That doesn’t match up with my Antscope 2. Go to “Settings” on lower left corner of 1st page. You should see three tabs after clicking on the settings button. The 3rd tab from the left is Cable”. I don’t use this software often enough to really know it, but, this goes beyond “No cable loss tool”.
GL

Stu

K7ALM

Stu,

The Cable tab that you see under Settings have nothing to do with calculating Cable Loss.? They are used so that AntScope2 can add or subtract a transmission cable length from the calculations.?? This is typically used when you are measuring at the shack end of a transmission line and want to know what the readings would be at the other end.?

Roger

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Re: 650-Zoom Bluetooth to Microsoft Surface Pro #aa-650-zoom

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Keith,

Using Bluetooth in Windows is not as simple as iOS.? On Windows 10 you have to manually go into the Bluetooth settings, find the RigExpert device and then "pair" with it.?? One you are paired Windows? will create a COM port and then you can manually connect to it in AntScope2 using "Connect to Analyser" in the Settings.?

Roger

Re: 650-Zoom Bluetooth to Microsoft Surface Pro #aa-650-zoom

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Roger,

I believe the Surface Pro does support Bluetooth BLE, from what I can find on the Internet and on Microsoft’s product specifications pages. That doesn’t mean the drivers in the Surface Pro have all the bells and whistles needed to talk to the AA-650 Zoom. I am not an expert on Bluetooth and all it’s iterations. I was hoping the 650 Zoom would just connect up to the Surface Pro via Bluetooth as easily as it did to the iPad.

Below are a few screen shots of my settings in the 650 and in the Surface Pro, if they might be of any help.

In AntScope2 there doesn’t seem to be any choices to select in the “Settings Window”. Clicking on the drop down under Serial Port there are no choices. Clicking on “Connect Analyzer” does nothing. The main window continues to show “Analyzer not Connected” on the top line of the AntScope screen.

From what I have read on the Internet, if the Bluetooth section in Device Managers shows a Microsoft Bluetooth LE Enumerator then the device is capable of using Bluetooth LE.

Currently this is over my head since as I’ve mentioned I am not up to speed on all the various iterations of Bluetooth.

Any insight would be appreciated but I can manage with the USB cable between the Surface Pro and the 650 Zoom. It would just be a lot more convenient if they would talk over Bluetooth!

Thanks!

Keith

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On Jul 28, 2021, at 1:41 PM, Roger Need via groups.io <sailtamarack@...> wrote:

?On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 11:22 PM, Keith Ballow KN5G wrote:

Should the AA-650-Zoom connect via Bluetooth to a Microsoft Surface Pro laptop computer? It will connect via Bluetooth to my iPad and iPhone but I haven’t figured out how to make it connect to the Surface Pro via Bluetooth. It will talk to the Surface Pro via the USB Cable but not via Bluetooth.

It would be nice to have a Bluetooth connection to the Surface Pro Laptop as well.
?I have AntScope2 running on the Surface Pro Laptop.

Does your Surface Pro support Bluetooth BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy)?? Can you pair with your AA-650 Zoom?

Roger

Re: AntScope 2 Color Scheme

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Thanks Alex. It's much better. One reason I missed that is the blue on black default in Settings. -ken-

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Re: AA-650 Zoom with AntScope2

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That doesn’t match up with my Antscope 2. Go to “Settings” on lower left corner of 1st page. You should see three tabs after clicking on the settings button. The 3rd tab from the left is Cable”. I don’t use this software often enough to really know it, but, this goes beyond “No cable loss tool”.

GL

Stu

K7ALM

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On Jul 28, 2021, at 11:26 AM, Roger Need via groups.io <sailtamarack@...> wrote:

?There is no Cable Loss Tool in AntScope2.? AntScope 2 has only the? functions and TDR but it is capable of more data points, can import and export Touchstone files, calibration and nice marker functions.

Roger

Re: AntScope 2 Color Scheme

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Hi Ken. Have you tried using the light theme of the program interface?

Regards, Alex

28.07.2021 22:40, Ken пишет:

I admit that my 12 Year Old LCD Monitor is not the sharpest and my 83 Year Old eyes are not as good as they used to be, but the combination of blue lettering on a black background combined with the small text size make it very hard for me to read values. Other than that, the program works very well. Thank you for making it work with the NanoVNA. -ken-

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AntScope 2 Color Scheme

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I admit that my 12 Year Old LCD Monitor is not the sharpest and my 83 Year Old eyes are not as good as they used to be, but the combination of blue lettering on a black background combined with the small text size make it very hard for me to read values. Other than that, the program works very well. Thank you for making it work with the NanoVNA. -ken-

Re: 650-Zoom Bluetooth to Microsoft Surface Pro #aa-650-zoom

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On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 11:22 PM, Keith Ballow KN5G wrote:

Should the AA-650-Zoom connect via Bluetooth to a Microsoft Surface Pro laptop computer? It will connect via Bluetooth to my iPad and iPhone but I haven’t figured out how to make it connect to the Surface Pro via Bluetooth. It will talk to the Surface Pro via the USB Cable but not via Bluetooth.

It would be nice to have a Bluetooth connection to the Surface Pro Laptop as well.
?I have AntScope2 running on the Surface Pro Laptop.

Does your Surface Pro support Bluetooth BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy)?? Can you pair with your AA-650 Zoom?

Roger

Re: AA-650 Zoom with AntScope2

#652

There is no Cable Loss Tool in AntScope2.? AntScope 2 has only the? functions and TDR but it is capable of more data points, can import and export Touchstone files, calibration and nice marker functions.

Roger

Re: RigExpert family of products.

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You are able  to post to the Rig Expert Group...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)

ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

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On 7/19/21 5:42 PM, Dennis Dinga wrote:
Please allow me to post to the RigExpert group.io. #rigexpert #antscope2

650-Zoom Bluetooth to Microsoft Surface Pro #aa-650-zoom

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Should the AA-650-Zoom connect via Bluetooth to a Microsoft Surface Pro laptop computer? It will connect via Bluetooth to my iPad and iPhone but I haven’t figured out how to make it connect to the Surface Pro via Bluetooth. It will talk to the Surface Pro via the USB Cable but not via Bluetooth.

It would be nice to have a Bluetooth connection to the Surface Pro Laptop as well.
?I have AntScope2 running on the Surface Pro Laptop.

Thanks,
Keith
KN5G

Cable Loss tool in AntScope2 #aa-650-zoom

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Is the Cable Loss tool available in the AntScope2 software?
I can run the tool from the 650-Zoom’s keypad but I have not been able to find this tool in the AntScope2 PC program.

Thanks,
Keith
KN5G

AA-650 Zoom with AntScope2

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I have an AA-650 Zoom hooked to my Surface Pro via USB cable and I am running AntScope 2.
I would like to use the Cable Loss tool but I am having difficulty finding this tool in AntScope 2.
Is the Cable Loss tool available in AntScope 2, and if so where do I find it?

Thanks,
Keith
KN5G

RigExpert family of products.

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Please allow me to post to the RigExpert group.io. #rigexpert #antscope2