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Re: Pi 5 portable power

 

I stand corrected. Open mouth and inset foot. Is it true that the official PS only has a four foot power cord? Sounds rather short.

Max KG4PID

On Thursday, March 7, 2024, 10:04:36 PM CST, N5XMT <dacooley@...> wrote:


You should do a little research on the Pi5. The official Pi5 power supply is PD and the pi does have the circuitry to request the higher power.? The previous versions of the Pi didn't have the circuitry and were unable to take advantage of the PD.

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On Mar 7, 2024, at 18:23, "Max via " <yahoo.com@groups.io target=_blank>[email protected]> wrote:

my research says that a QC and PD port has to negotiate to get higher power.? Can a Pi 5 do that???I don't think so.



"Quick Charge requires both the power supply and the device being charged to support it, otherwise charging falls back to the standard USB ten watts."



I'll let someone else decipher that page but my take on it is that it is 3A (15 watts) unless it able to?negotiate to get higher power.

So it would seem it would be better to use one of the PD ports and get?3A (15 watts)?versus the QC port and only get 10 watts.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Max KG4PID


On Thursday, March 7, 2024, 07:19:49 PM CST, Tom Hyde NK5H <nk5h.tx@...> wrote:

Ken,

Any USB-C standard power outlet will have the standard 5V, 9V, and 12V pins, you just need one rated at 28W or higher. Your 30W unit will work fine.?

Tom NK5H?

On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 12:18 Kenneth R. van Wyk <ken@...> wrote:
I’m running a Pi 5 here, with pretty good successes. It is my intention to build it into a portable PC for radio operations (e.g., POTA, vacations).

One concern I had was regarding power when I’m away from 120V AC. I know it’s been discussed here a lot that we have to use the official Pi 28 Watt charger and such.

HOWEVER, I have a LiFePo4 + solar battery system I built. I included in it a socket with 2 USB-C PD ports rated at 30 Watts each. (I use it to charge my MacBook Pro often.)

I just booted up my Pi 5 on that port and got no warnings about low voltages at all. It just runs. I see no difference between this and the factory power adapter.

I’m not running anything on the USB ports, so the power draw isn’t that much anyway. My configuration is Pi 5 with 8 Gb, Pi OS, Pimoroni NVMe Base board with an NVMe (Sabrent) 1 TB boot drive.

I’ll report back if I encounter any problems, but so far so good.

The socket I put in my LiFePo4 box is this one from Amazon ($20.99):




73 de K0RvW







Re: Pi 5 portable power

 

You should do a little research on the Pi5. The official Pi5 power supply is PD and the pi does have the circuitry to request the higher power.? The previous versions of the Pi didn't have the circuitry and were unable to take advantage of the PD.

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On Mar 7, 2024, at 18:23, "Max via " <yahoo.com@groups.io target=_blank>[email protected]> wrote:

my research says that a QC and PD port has to negotiate to get higher power.? Can a Pi 5 do that???I don't think so.



"Quick Charge requires both the power supply and the device being charged to support it, otherwise charging falls back to the standard USB ten watts."



I'll let someone else decipher that page but my take on it is that it is 3A (15 watts) unless it able to?negotiate to get higher power.

So it would seem it would be better to use one of the PD ports and get?3A (15 watts)?versus the QC port and only get 10 watts.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Max KG4PID


On Thursday, March 7, 2024, 07:19:49 PM CST, Tom Hyde NK5H <nk5h.tx@...> wrote:

Ken,

Any USB-C standard power outlet will have the standard 5V, 9V, and 12V pins, you just need one rated at 28W or higher. Your 30W unit will work fine.?

Tom NK5H?

On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 12:18 Kenneth R. van Wyk <ken@...> wrote:
I’m running a Pi 5 here, with pretty good successes. It is my intention to build it into a portable PC for radio operations (e.g., POTA, vacations).

One concern I had was regarding power when I’m away from 120V AC. I know it’s been discussed here a lot that we have to use the official Pi 28 Watt charger and such.

HOWEVER, I have a LiFePo4 + solar battery system I built. I included in it a socket with 2 USB-C PD ports rated at 30 Watts each. (I use it to charge my MacBook Pro often.)

I just booted up my Pi 5 on that port and got no warnings about low voltages at all. It just runs. I see no difference between this and the factory power adapter.

I’m not running anything on the USB ports, so the power draw isn’t that much anyway. My configuration is Pi 5 with 8 Gb, Pi OS, Pimoroni NVMe Base board with an NVMe (Sabrent) 1 TB boot drive.

I’ll report back if I encounter any problems, but so far so good.

The socket I put in my LiFePo4 box is this one from Amazon ($20.99):




73 de K0RvW







Re: Pi 5 portable power

 

Thanks for sharing your find Ken?
Re: Pi 5 portable power

 

my research says that a QC and PD port has to negotiate to get higher power.? Can a Pi 5 do that???I don't think so.



"Quick Charge requires both the power supply and the device being charged to support it, otherwise charging falls back to the standard USB ten watts."



I'll let someone else decipher that page but my take on it is that it is 3A (15 watts) unless it able to?negotiate to get higher power.

So it would seem it would be better to use one of the PD ports and get?3A (15 watts)?versus the QC port and only get 10 watts.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Max KG4PID


On Thursday, March 7, 2024, 07:19:49 PM CST, Tom Hyde NK5H <nk5h.tx@...> wrote:

Ken,

Any USB-C standard power outlet will have the standard 5V, 9V, and 12V pins, you just need one rated at 28W or higher. Your 30W unit will work fine.?

Tom NK5H?

On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 12:18 Kenneth R. van Wyk <ken@...> wrote:
I’m running a Pi 5 here, with pretty good successes. It is my intention to build it into a portable PC for radio operations (e.g., POTA, vacations).

One concern I had was regarding power when I’m away from 120V AC. I know it’s been discussed here a lot that we have to use the official Pi 28 Watt charger and such.

HOWEVER, I have a LiFePo4 + solar battery system I built. I included in it a socket with 2 USB-C PD ports rated at 30 Watts each. (I use it to charge my MacBook Pro often.)

I just booted up my Pi 5 on that port and got no warnings about low voltages at all. It just runs. I see no difference between this and the factory power adapter.

I’m not running anything on the USB ports, so the power draw isn’t that much anyway. My configuration is Pi 5 with 8 Gb, Pi OS, Pimoroni NVMe Base board with an NVMe (Sabrent) 1 TB boot drive.

I’ll report back if I encounter any problems, but so far so good.

The socket I put in my LiFePo4 box is this one from Amazon ($20.99):




73 de K0RvW
Re: Pi 5 portable power

 

Ken,

Any USB-C standard power outlet will have the standard 5V, 9V, and 12V pins, you just need one rated at 28W or higher. Your 30W unit will work fine.?

Tom NK5H?

On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 12:18 Kenneth R. van Wyk <ken@...> wrote:
I’m running a Pi 5 here, with pretty good successes. It is my intention to build it into a portable PC for radio operations (e.g., POTA, vacations).

One concern I had was regarding power when I’m away from 120V AC. I know it’s been discussed here a lot that we have to use the official Pi 28 Watt charger and such.

HOWEVER, I have a LiFePo4 + solar battery system I built. I included in it a socket with 2 USB-C PD ports rated at 30 Watts each. (I use it to charge my MacBook Pro often.)

I just booted up my Pi 5 on that port and got no warnings about low voltages at all. It just runs. I see no difference between this and the factory power adapter.

I’m not running anything on the USB ports, so the power draw isn’t that much anyway. My configuration is Pi 5 with 8 Gb, Pi OS, Pimoroni NVMe Base board with an NVMe (Sabrent) 1 TB boot drive.

I’ll report back if I encounter any problems, but so far so good.

The socket I put in my LiFePo4 box is this one from Amazon ($20.99):




73 de K0RvW
Pi 5 portable power

 

I’m running a Pi 5 here, with pretty good successes. It is my intention to build it into a portable PC for radio operations (e.g., POTA, vacations).

One concern I had was regarding power when I’m away from 120V AC. I know it’s been discussed here a lot that we have to use the official Pi 28 Watt charger and such.

HOWEVER, I have a LiFePo4 + solar battery system I built. I included in it a socket with 2 USB-C PD ports rated at 30 Watts each. (I use it to charge my MacBook Pro often.)

I just booted up my Pi 5 on that port and got no warnings about low voltages at all. It just runs. I see no difference between this and the factory power adapter.

I’m not running anything on the USB ports, so the power draw isn’t that much anyway. My configuration is Pi 5 with 8 Gb, Pi OS, Pimoroni NVMe Base board with an NVMe (Sabrent) 1 TB boot drive.

I’ll report back if I encounter any problems, but so far so good.

The socket I put in my LiFePo4 box is this one from Amazon ($20.99):




73 de K0RvW

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Re: Using pi4 Radioberry outside LAN #networking

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Thanks for your comments. I hadn't realised how many UDP ports SDR Console uses to talk to radios. I used wire shark to monitor traffic to the radio on my LAN and forwarded all the ports I could see in use to the radio. I could then operate it from the internet but the audio quality was not good, especially on transmit, probably due to bandwidth / latency problems.
I also have an RSP1A listening to QO-100 on 739 MHz this is connected to a RPi4 with SDR Play server which talks to SDR Play client over the internet but this has the option of using an audio connection rather than full IQ and the audio quality is good with this (SDR Play client though is nowhere near as good as SDR Console). I was hoping to have a full duplex QO-100 transceiver, with remote operation, using my RPi/radioberry transceiver (with DXpatrol up / down converters from 28 MHz) + the RSP1A for listening during transmission. It does all work now but the quality is not good enough. I think I will try using a VNC set up.
Regards
Richard MW0HAT
Re: NVMe on Pi-5 -- I need help understanding

 

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David,? I can edit the config.txt file.? It is here: ? /boot/firmware/config.txt?


On 2024-03-05 13:40, N5XMT wrote:

If you can't even edit the config.txt file, then the file system on the drive has issues. As long as you are using sudo, you have permissions to write the system files.

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On Mar 5, 2024, at 11:02, John <radio@...> wrote:

Thanks for your reply.? Originally I did those things, but set up for only gen=2 and it worked, but didn't seem to boot any faster than my USB SSD on the Pi-4b.

I don't know what I've done now, but I really have the Pi messed up.

Now the commands you listed won't work and I cannot even install them.

Also, I took my PI-5 apart and unhooked the NVMe and put my original SD card in.? It still doesn't work well.? The Internet is very slow and it times out trying to update the card.? The Pi-4 using HamPi still works OK

I think the speed test link may have started the problem.? Another possibility is that I ran a command to update the eeprom to the latest version.?

My guess is that something in the firmware got overwritten or modified.?


On 2024-03-04 13:14, N5XMT wrote:

Do a sudo apt install hdparm -y
Then do sudo hdparm -Y /dev/nvme0n1
Post the numbers here

Also, did you enable PCI-E 3
lines in config.txt needs to say
dtparam=pciex1
dtparam=pciex1_gen=3
in that order

Get
On Mar 4, 2024, at 10:34, John <radio@...> wrote:
A Fikwot FN501 PRO NVMe was installed on my Pi-5 following a Utube video by Jeff Gerling.

It boots without the SD card, but seems slow and the test method used by Jeff doesn't work with my setup.

I made a screen capture of the output produced for the drive with sudo lspci -vvv, but I'm not sure if it is OK to upload it here.

What I need to know is if the drive is compatible with my Pi-5.

And, if I should upload the screen capture.
Re: NVMe on Pi-5 -- I need help understanding

 

And I'm running the latest firmware as well with sudo rpi-eeprom-update -d -a


Get
On Mar 5, 2024, at 11:02, John <radio@...> wrote:

Thanks for your reply.? Originally I did those things, but set up for only gen=2 and it worked, but didn't seem to boot any faster than my USB SSD on the Pi-4b.

I don't know what I've done now, but I really have the Pi messed up.

Now the commands you listed won't work and I cannot even install them.

Also, I took my PI-5 apart and unhooked the NVMe and put my original SD card in.? It still doesn't work well.? The Internet is very slow and it times out trying to update the card.? The Pi-4 using HamPi still works OK

I think the speed test link may have started the problem.? Another possibility is that I ran a command to update the eeprom to the latest version.?

My guess is that something in the firmware got overwritten or modified.?


On 2024-03-04 13:14, N5XMT wrote:

Do a sudo apt install hdparm -y
Then do sudo hdparm -Y /dev/nvme0n1
Post the numbers here

Also, did you enable PCI-E 3
lines in config.txt needs to say
dtparam=pciex1
dtparam=pciex1_gen=3
in that order

Get
On Mar 4, 2024, at 10:34, John <radio@...> wrote:
A Fikwot FN501 PRO NVMe was installed on my Pi-5 following a Utube video by Jeff Gerling.

It boots without the SD card, but seems slow and the test method used by Jeff doesn't work with my setup.

I made a screen capture of the output produced for the drive with sudo lspci -vvv, but I'm not sure if it is OK to upload it here.

What I need to know is if the drive is compatible with my Pi-5.

And, if I should upload the screen capture.

Re: NVMe on Pi-5 -- I need help understanding

 

If you can't even edit the config.txt file, then the file system on the drive has issues. As long as you are using sudo, you have permissions to write the system files.

Get
On Mar 5, 2024, at 11:02, John <radio@...> wrote:

Thanks for your reply.? Originally I did those things, but set up for only gen=2 and it worked, but didn't seem to boot any faster than my USB SSD on the Pi-4b.

I don't know what I've done now, but I really have the Pi messed up.

Now the commands you listed won't work and I cannot even install them.

Also, I took my PI-5 apart and unhooked the NVMe and put my original SD card in.? It still doesn't work well.? The Internet is very slow and it times out trying to update the card.? The Pi-4 using HamPi still works OK

I think the speed test link may have started the problem.? Another possibility is that I ran a command to update the eeprom to the latest version.?

My guess is that something in the firmware got overwritten or modified.?


On 2024-03-04 13:14, N5XMT wrote:

Do a sudo apt install hdparm -y
Then do sudo hdparm -Y /dev/nvme0n1
Post the numbers here

Also, did you enable PCI-E 3
lines in config.txt needs to say
dtparam=pciex1
dtparam=pciex1_gen=3
in that order

Get
On Mar 4, 2024, at 10:34, John <radio@...> wrote:
A Fikwot FN501 PRO NVMe was installed on my Pi-5 following a Utube video by Jeff Gerling.

It boots without the SD card, but seems slow and the test method used by Jeff doesn't work with my setup.

I made a screen capture of the output produced for the drive with sudo lspci -vvv, but I'm not sure if it is OK to upload it here.

What I need to know is if the drive is compatible with my Pi-5.

And, if I should upload the screen capture.

Re: NVMe on Pi-5 -- I need help understanding

 

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Thanks for your reply.? Originally I did those things, but set up for only gen=2 and it worked, but didn't seem to boot any faster than my USB SSD on the Pi-4b.

I don't know what I've done now, but I really have the Pi messed up.

Now the commands you listed won't work and I cannot even install them.

Also, I took my PI-5 apart and unhooked the NVMe and put my original SD card in.? It still doesn't work well.? The Internet is very slow and it times out trying to update the card.? The Pi-4 using HamPi still works OK

I think the speed test link may have started the problem.? Another possibility is that I ran a command to update the eeprom to the latest version.?

My guess is that something in the firmware got overwritten or modified.?


On 2024-03-04 13:14, N5XMT wrote:

Do a sudo apt install hdparm -y
Then do sudo hdparm -Y /dev/nvme0n1
Post the numbers here

Also, did you enable PCI-E 3
lines in config.txt needs to say
dtparam=pciex1
dtparam=pciex1_gen=3
in that order

Get
On Mar 4, 2024, at 10:34, John <radio@...> wrote:
A Fikwot FN501 PRO NVMe was installed on my Pi-5 following a Utube video by Jeff Gerling.

It boots without the SD card, but seems slow and the test method used by Jeff doesn't work with my setup.

I made a screen capture of the output produced for the drive with sudo lspci -vvv, but I'm not sure if it is OK to upload it here.

What I need to know is if the drive is compatible with my Pi-5.

And, if I should upload the screen capture.
Re: NVMe on Pi-5 -- I need help understanding

 

Do a sudo apt install hdparm -y
Then do sudo hdparm -Y /dev/nvme0n1
Post the numbers here

Also, did you enable PCI-E 3
lines in config.txt needs to say
dtparam=pciex1
dtparam=pciex1_gen=3
in that order

Get
On Mar 4, 2024, at 10:34, John <radio@...> wrote:

A Fikwot FN501 PRO NVMe was installed on my Pi-5 following a Utube video by Jeff Gerling.

It boots without the SD card, but seems slow and the test method used by Jeff doesn't work with my setup.

I made a screen capture of the output produced for the drive with sudo lspci -vvv, but I'm not sure if it is OK to upload it here.

What I need to know is if the drive is compatible with my Pi-5.

And, if I should upload the screen capture.

NVMe on Pi-5 -- I need help understanding

 

A Fikwot FN501 PRO NVMe was installed on my Pi-5 following a Utube video by Jeff Gerling.

It boots without the SD card, but seems slow and the test method used by Jeff doesn't work with my setup.

I made a screen capture of the output produced for the drive with sudo lspci -vvv, but I'm not sure if it is OK to upload it here.

What I need to know is if the drive is compatible with my Pi-5.

And, if I should upload the screen capture.
Re: Using pi4 Radioberry outside LAN #networking

 

The UDP packets need to be delivered with low latency. Not something the internet will help fix. You could try a VPN but I don’t think the IQ data will be useful with delays and drops from the internet

your better off using vnc or rdp to console in and pipe audio or whatever not the raw IQ?

k
Using pi4 Radioberry outside LAN #networking

[email protected]
 

Hi I have an HF transceiver based on a Pi4 and radio berry. It works fine on my LAN with SDRConsole but I am unable to connect to it from the internet.
On my LAN I have fixed the IP address in my router (via DHCP) , I have a fixed IP and I have port forwarded external port 1024 (I have tried several others) to the pi but I am unable to connect with SDR Console. I have had no problems with access via SSH with port forwarding.
Does anyone have any ideas as to what to try? I presumed it was a port forwarding issue but maybe it is something more fundamental?

Regards Richard
Re: Seeking case compatible with Pi 5 + Pimoroni NVMe BASE

 

The pimoroni and pineberry pi bottom hats both fit in a case I found on thingiverse and 3d printed. It also fits with the Pi5 active cooler as well.
They also have about 5 more for the Pi5 with the various NVMe hats. Here is the one I printed



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On Mar 3, 2024, at 10:49, "Dennis Nelson via " <yahoo.com@groups.io target=_blank>[email protected]> wrote:

I saw one official on the rasperry.com site, under products. It was from California store.

On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 06:26:41 AM CST, Kenneth R. van Wyk <ken@...> wrote:


I plan on adding my Pi 5 to my portable rig. It’s currently caseless, however, as the Pimoroni NVM3 base board doesn’t seem happy in other cases.

Anyone know of a case that can accommodate this configuration, while still allowing access to the external ports?

Cheers,

Ken van Wyk
Armata Scientia
Re: Seeking case compatible with Pi 5 + Pimoroni NVMe BASE

 

I saw one official on the rasperry.com site, under products. It was from California store.

On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 06:26:41 AM CST, Kenneth R. van Wyk <ken@...> wrote:


I plan on adding my Pi 5 to my portable rig. It’s currently caseless, however, as the Pimoroni NVM3 base board doesn’t seem happy in other cases.

Anyone know of a case that can accommodate this configuration, while still allowing access to the external ports?

Cheers,

Ken van Wyk
Armata Scientia
Re: Seeking case compatible with Pi 5 + Pimoroni NVMe BASE

 
Edited

Larry,
I'm using the Geekworm P579 with top hat SSD. The SSD sits on top of the Active cooler. It didn't seem like it would go together, but when mounted, fit together just fine.

I went with top mount because I thought the air draw would help with cooling the SSD better or at least give it better air flow instead of it being against the bottom of the case.

I've had issues before with some high speed SSD drives in external USB cases enclosures getting too hot at times during heavy load transfers and shutting down. Perplexing when it first happened, as the drive simply didn't seem to exist, then I realized it was too hot. Drilled some vent holes in the little slim case and it was fine. So I'm hoping the top mount hat will perform well.

Greg
KE5DXA?
Re: Seeking case compatible with Pi 5 + Pimoroni NVMe BASE

 

I ordered both the Geekworm P579 case (Top NVMe Hat) and the Geekworm P580 case (Bottom NVMe Hat) from Amazon (same price as Geekworm site).
The RPi5 with the active cooler and the Pineberry Pi Top NVMe Hat will fit into the P579 case (Top NVMe Hat).
But the RPi5 with the active cooler and the Pineberry Pi Bottom Hat will NOT fit into the P580 case - the Pineberry Pi Bottom Hat extends 5 mm beyond the? NVMe connector end of the RPi5 board and will not fit the case.?
I presume that the Geekworm Bottom NVMe Hat will fit into the P580 Case - I do not have the Geekworm board.
I also have the Pimoroni Bottom NVME Hat. It is 3 mm longer than the RPi5 board at the USB end - I do not think it will fit into the Geekworm P580 case either.
I hope others will find this helpful. I am still looking for a case for the RPi5 wiht active cooler and the Pineberry Pi / Pimoroni Bottom NVMe Hat.
Edd - KD5M
Re: RPi Kernel Panic on Bookworm

 

I will try this scenario on my Pi with bookworm, and replace the /usr/local/bin/rmsgw with a shell script that writes to a log file.
? I had an interesting result, basically trying this same test. ?I modified ax25d.conf and replaced rmsgw with /usr/games/fortune on my test Pi pair. ?The idea was to use a non-ax.25 app to produce some output and see if we can isolate the problem.

? After making the change on RMS Pi, the PAT Pi connected as it normally does, receiving a fortune cookie instead of a WL2K banner. ?Obviously the connection from PAT failed, but I let it run for about 2 days before I noticed the "netstat issue" again. ?I killed ax25d and immediately received a kernel Oops, but, interesting, not an immediate crash. ?The crash happened when I restarted ax25d:

root@hammyRMS:~# grep -v "^#" /etc/ax25/ax25d.conf
[MYCALL-4 via dw12]
NOCALL * * * * * * L
default ?* * * * * * ?0 ? ?root ?/usr/games/fortune fortune
root@hammyRMS:~# netstat -an
....
Active AX.25 sockets
Dest ? ? ? Source ? ? Device ?State ? ? ? ?Vr/Vs ? ?Send-Q ?Recv-Q
* ? ? ? ? ?MYCALL-4 ? ? ? ? ? LISTENING ? ?000/000 ?0 ? ? ? 0
root@hammyRMS:~#
root@hammyRMS:~# ps -ef | grep ax25
root ? ? ? ? 968 ? ? ? 1 ?0 Feb25 ? ? ? ? ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/ax25d -l
root ? ? ?479232 ? ? 792 ?0 09:08 pts/3 ? ?00:00:00 grep ax25
root@hammyRMS:~# kill 968
root@hammyRMS:~#
Message from syslogd@hammyRMS at Feb 28 09:09:05 ...
?kernel:[227603.958206] Internal error: Oops: 0000000096000005 [#1] PREEMPT SMP
?
Message from syslogd@hammyRMS at Feb 28 09:09:05 ...
?kernel:[227603.958206] Internal error: Oops: 0000000096000005 [#1] PREEMPT SMP
?
Message from syslogd@hammyRMS at Feb 28 09:09:05 ...
?kernel:[227604.256120] Code: f9426400 d538d082 12800003 8b020000 (885f7c05)
?
root@hammyRMS:~#
root@hammyRMS:~# uptime
?09:09:18 up 2 days, 15:13, ?9 users, ?load average: 0.09, 0.17, 0.20
root@hammyRMS:~#
root@hammyRMS:~# ax25d -l
root@hammyRMS:~# client_loop: send disconnect: Broken pipe
?
What this tells me is that I don't need to waste any time troubleshooting rmsgw. ?The problem lies between the kernel and ax25d's use of the kernel API. ?I think I've taken this about as far as I can without digging into the code. ?I think next steps would be to see if I can add some verbose logging to ax25d and try to understand what has changed in the kernel's AX.25 stack between my version and a working version.

? Cheers
? Mike
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