On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 6:48 AM, Larry Dighera

<LDighera@...> wrote:

I don't order from Aliexpress vendors who don't accept PayPal.?
In fact, I endeavor to follow that policy for all on-line purchases.

Larry
WB6BBB


On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 20:07:05 -0800, "Michael WA7SKG" <wa7skg@...>
wrote:

>Likewise.
>
>Although I have never placed an order with Aliexpress, they started
>making charges to my credit card. Most were under $15, but they made
>over 300 transactions in a three week period. Could not reach anybody or
>get any response from Aliexpress. I filed a protest with my bank.
>Response to the bank from Aliexpress was all items were ordered and
>delivered. I never ordered or received a single thing. They refused to
>tell the bank what address the items were delivered to due to "Privacy
>Restrictions." It took a couple months until the bank removed all the
>charges. Had to cancel and reissue my credit card. Bank told me it took
>so long to resolve because they had so many similar complaints against them.
>
>Stay away from Aliexpress.
>
>Michael WA7SKG
>
>N5XMT wrote on 12/27/23 6:45 PM:
>> I wouldn't trust anything from Aliexpress
>>

I wouldn't trust anything from Aliexpress

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On Dec 27, 2023, 17:26, at 17:26, Larry Dighera <ldighera@...> wrote:

Here appears to be an industrialized RPi-5 fully assembled with several
important additional systems:

EDATEC ED-IPC3020-04320 Industrialized Raspberry RPi-5
* Externally accessible PCIe M.2 SSD
* RS-232 Port
* RS-485 Port
* Buzzer
* Stereo Audio I/O two 3.5mm audio jacks
* RTC SuperCAP and CR1220 Battery Backup
* Fanless Design


$165.00
Selections
ED-IPC3020-08320
ED-IPC3020-04320
ED-IPC3020-08001
ED-IPC3020-08002
Ship to
California, United States
Delivery
Shipping: $19.24
Estimated delivery between Jan 08 - Jan 16
?Collect a $1.00 coupon for late delivery

I expect EDATEC won't have the RPi-5 on hand to fulfill the order for a
while as the RPi Foundation production reaches full capacity.

Best regards,
Larry
WB6BBB

[Edited Message Follows]

Thanks David.
After I posted my question I searched again and found a review of the Pineberry Pi boards posted yesterday on Toms Hardware by Les Pounder that shows a picture of the Bottom Board connected to the RPI5. Yes, the mount for the SSD requires removal from the RPI5 board. Another problem is the SD card slot is hidden by the PCIe connecting cable between the RPI5 and the Bottom Hat. To change / remove the SSD card you must also remove the Bottom Hat from the RPI5.
I am looking for a case to mount the RPI5 / Bottom Board in to protect the SSD - I have two on order from Amazon arriving tomorrow to try. - They are both simple top / bottom plexiglass with standoffs.
Thanks again.
Happy New Year.
Edd - KD5M

I wouldn't trust anything from Aliexpress
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On Dec 27, 2023, at 17:26, Larry Dighera <ldighera@... <mailto:ldighera@...>> wrote:
Here appears to be an industrialized RPi-5 fully assembled with several
important additional systems:
EDATEC ED-IPC3020-04320 Industrialized Raspberry RPi-5
* Externally accessible PCIe M.2 SSD
* RS-232 Port
* RS-485 Port
* Buzzer
* Stereo Audio I/O two 3.5mm audio jacks
* RTC SuperCAP and CR1220 Battery Backup
* Fanless Design

$165.00
Selections
ED-IPC3020-08320
ED-IPC3020-04320
ED-IPC3020-08001
ED-IPC3020-08002
Ship to
California, United States
Delivery
Shipping: $19.24
Estimated delivery between Jan 08 - Jan 16
?Collect a $1.00 coupon for late delivery
I expect EDATEC won't have the RPi-5 on hand to fulfill the order for a
while as the RPi Foundation production reaches full capacity.
Best regards,
Larry
WB6BBB

Had a bad experience, huh?

On Wednesday, December 27, 2023 at 06:45:12 PM PST, N5XMT <dacooley@...> wrote:

I wouldn't trust anything from Aliexpress

Get

On Dec 27, 2023, at 17:26, Larry Dighera <ldighera@...> wrote:

Here appears to be an industrialized RPi-5 fully assembled with several
important additional systems:

EDATEC ED-IPC3020-04320 Industrialized Raspberry RPi-5
  * Externally accessible PCIe M.2 SSD
  * RS-232 Port
  * RS-485 Port
  * Buzzer
  * Stereo Audio I/O two 3.5mm audio jacks
  * RTC SuperCAP and CR1220 Battery Backup
  * Fanless Design


    $165.00
    Selections
    ED-IPC3020-08320
    ED-IPC3020-04320
    ED-IPC3020-08001
    ED-IPC3020-08002
    Ship to
    California, United States
    Delivery 
    Shipping: $19.24 
    Estimated delivery between Jan 08 - Jan 16  
    ?Collect a $1.00 coupon for late delivery 

I expect EDATEC won't have the RPi-5 on hand to fulfill the order for a
while as the RPi Foundation production reaches full capacity.

Best regards,
Larry
WB6BBB

On 28/12/2023 02:45 GMT N5XMT <dacooley@...> wrote:


I wouldn't trust anything from Aliexpress

Here appears to be an industrialized RPi-5 fully assembled with several
important additional systems:

EDATEC ED-IPC3020-04320 Industrialized Raspberry RPi-5
  * Externally accessible PCIe M.2 SSD
  * RS-232 Port
  * RS-485 Port
  * Buzzer
  * Stereo Audio I/O two 3.5mm audio jacks
  * RTC SuperCAP and CR1220 Battery Backup
  * Fanless Design


    $165.00
    Selections
    ED-IPC3020-08320
    ED-IPC3020-04320
    ED-IPC3020-08001
    ED-IPC3020-08002
    Ship to
    California, United States
    Delivery 
    Shipping: $19.24 
    Estimated delivery between Jan 08 - Jan 16  
    ?Collect a $1.00 coupon for late delivery 

I expect EDATEC won't have the RPi-5 on hand to fulfill the order for a
while as the RPi Foundation production reaches full capacity.

Best regards,
Larry
WB6BBB

Here appears to be an industrialized RPi-5 fully assembled with several
important additional systems:

EDATEC ED-IPC3020-04320 Industrialized Raspberry RPi-5
  * Externally accessible PCIe M.2 SSD
  * RS-232 Port
  * RS-485 Port
  * Buzzer
  * Stereo Audio I/O two 3.5mm audio jacks
  * RTC SuperCAP and CR1220 Battery Backup
  * Fanless Design


    $165.00
    Selections
    ED-IPC3020-08320
    ED-IPC3020-04320
    ED-IPC3020-08001
    ED-IPC3020-08002
    Ship to
    California, United States
    Delivery 
    Shipping: $19.24 
    Estimated delivery between Jan 08 - Jan 16  
    ?Collect a $1.00 coupon for late delivery 

I expect EDATEC won't have the RPi-5 on hand to fulfill the order for a
while as the RPi Foundation production reaches full capacity.

Best regards,
Larry
WB6BBB

Has anyone here mounted the Pineberry Pi Bottom HAT onto an RPI5?
I have sent an inquiry to Pineberry Pi but have no yet received a reply.
I can find pictures on the internet showing the Top HAT mounted and have my Top HAT mounted and booting the RPI5.
But I cannot find any pictures or diagrams of the Bottom HAT mounted to an RPI5. Should it be mounted with the SSD up (pointed towards the RPI5 bottom) or the SSD down (away from the RPI5 bottom)? To orient the connecting cable pointer as shown for the Top HAT, the Bottom HAT must be mounted with the SSD down.
Thanks for any help or guidance.
Happy New Year!
Edd - KD5M

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone has run into kernel panic issues on Bookworm? ?About a month ago, I decided to finally upgrade my fairly reliable RPi3 on Stretch to a 8G RPi 4 running Bookworm. ?I used the RPi3 mostly for packet, an RMS station, and Pat client. ?When I say upgrade, I mean I built the new Pi from scratch, merged prior configs into new configs, etc. ?After moving everything over, I started noticing crashes every 4 - 5 days.

It took me a few crashes to figure things out. ?The usual suspects were ruled out (power, temperature, load, RAM, apt-get upgrade); I wasn't receiving any log messages indicating any type of issue. ?I also run all of my Pi's headless, so as it turns out I had to order one of those Micro HDMI cables to finally see the panic, relevant section below:

[455824.423915] Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 0000100000400000

<snip>

[455824.449897] CPU: 0 PID: 5851 Comm: beacon Tainted: G ? ? ? ?WC ? ? ?6.1.0-rpi4-rpi-u8 #1 Debian 1:6.1.54-1+rpt2

[455824.451459] Hardware name: Raspberry Pi 4 Model B Rev 1.5 (DT)

[455824.453007] pstate: 00000005 (nzcv daif -PAN -UAO -TCO -DIT -SSBS BTYPE=--)

[455824.454566] рс : ax25cmp+0x14/0x60 [ax25]

[455834.456161] lr : ax25_addr_ax25dev+0x60/0xf0 [ax25]

Curious to see if anyone is having issues like this. ?My uneducated read of this is that /usr/sbin/beacon did something bad with a pointer. ?I was able to verify that PID 5851 was the "beacon" process and this is the second panic I caught which names beacon as the culprit.

My short term work around is to have Direwolf beacon for me and prevent /usr/sbin/beacon from running. ?It will take a week or two in order to know whether that work around is helpful. ?I usually prefer to use the native AX.25 tools whenever I can, but that toolset doesn't seem to be aging well.

? Thanks
? Mike

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone has run into kernel panic issues on Bookworm? ?About a month ago, I decided to finally upgrade my fairly reliable RPi3 on Stretch to a 8G RPi 4 running Bookworm. ?I used the RPi3 mostly for packet, an RMS station, and Pat client. ?When I say upgrade, I mean I built the new Pi from scratch, merged prior configs into new configs, etc. ?After moving everything over, I started noticing crashes every 4 - 5 days.

It took me a few crashes to figure things out. ?The usual suspects were ruled out (power, temperature, load, RAM, apt-get upgrade); I wasn't receiving any log messages indicating any type of issue. ?I also run all of my Pi's headless, so as it turns out I had to order one of those Micro HDMI cables to finally see the panic, relevant section below:

[455824.423915] Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 0000100000400000

<snip>

[455824.449897] CPU: 0 PID: 5851 Comm: beacon Tainted: G ? ? ? ?WC ? ? ?6.1.0-rpi4-rpi-u8 #1 Debian 1:6.1.54-1+rpt2

[455824.451459] Hardware name: Raspberry Pi 4 Model B Rev 1.5 (DT)

[455824.453007] pstate: 00000005 (nzcv daif -PAN -UAO -TCO -DIT -SSBS BTYPE=--)

[455824.454566] рс : ax25cmp+0x14/0x60 [ax25]

[455834.456161] lr : ax25_addr_ax25dev+0x60/0xf0 [ax25]

Curious to see if anyone is having issues like this. ?My uneducated read of this is that /usr/sbin/beacon did something bad with a pointer. ?I was able to verify that PID 5851 was the "beacon" process and this is the second panic I caught which names beacon as the culprit.

My short term work around is to have Direwolf beacon for me and prevent /usr/sbin/beacon from running. ?It will take a week or two in order to know whether that work around is helpful. ?I usually prefer to use the native AX.25 tools whenever I can, but that toolset doesn't seem to be aging well.

? Thanks
? Mike

What compiler should be used with the new 64 bit operating system installed on a Raspberry Pi-4b 8g?

John,? W0GN