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Re: SD Cards Erased Upon Removal?
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHI Is there a reason to not use the built in SD backup tool? This
works well for me.
Marty kd8bj
On 8/14/21 12:58 PM, Fred Hillhouse
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Re: SD Cards Erased Upon Removal?
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI am not using Hampi but I recently made a backup ?of my image on my PiZ-W. I think I used instruction I found on Raspberry forum. I backed up to an USB drive then restored to a new uSD. I am currently using my back up so I know it works. ? Fred N7FMH ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David AJ6RE ? After successfully using my Rpi 4 B+ for a few months as part of my homebrew mobile manpack rig I decided to back up the SD card prior to installing a GPS dongle. I did a sudo shutdown -h now and powered down. When I stuck the SD card it into my PC it was blank, save for the volume label.? |
Re: SD Cards Erased Upon Removal?
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHello Dave, Yes, you're right.. you can install third party utilities or install the optional WSL sub-system on Windows10 to read/write Linux filesystems but my point is still valid for STOCK Windows.? Stock Windows cannot read/write most Linux and other UNIX file systems but it should be able to read the FAT32 /boot partition.? If it cannot, there is something else wrong and I would suspect the SD card reader. --David KI6ZHD On 08/14/2021 09:24 AM, Dave Wade
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Re: SD Cards Erased Upon Removal?
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Hi
Having used the Raspberry Pi? (3, 4 and Zero) for Amateur TV projects (in particular the Portsdown Digital Amateur TV Transceiver?) for the past 5 years, including literally hundreds of card builds, I can say that I have never seen this happen. I would suggest one of 3 possible explanations:
Even if you removed the card before shutdown, it would still have the Linux file system on it.? (I have done it, and the card survived). Hope that helps Dave, G8GKQ |
Re: SD Cards Erased Upon Removal?
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýDavid, There are tools that allow a an EXT4 file system to be viewed on a Windows PC for example ? ? but there are other tools¡. ? Dave G4UGM ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Ranch
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On 08/13/2021 05:34 PM, David AJ6RE wrote:
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Re: RealVNC loses connection
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHello Carlos, You need to give us more details.? Where is your VNC client computer?? Is it on the internet somewhere and your Raspberry Pi is behind your home router with a port forward?? If so, it sounds like your Internet router is timing out the NAT PORTFW connection because it thinks the connection is idle.? Which VNC client are you using?? Is it from RealVNC?? If so, do you see any interesting detail on the client in the $HOME/.vnc/vncviewer.log file?? A an experiment, you can go under Preferences --> Expert, what are the settings for KeepAliveInterval and KeepAliveResponseTimeout?? Try HALVING the KeepAliveInterval value and DOUBLE theKeepAliveResponseTimeout setting and then re-connect to the Raspberry Pi.? Does that help? --David KI6ZHD On 08/13/2021 09:56 PM, Carlos via
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I can't seem to be able to maintain a VNC connection for more that a few minutes. |
Re: SD Cards Erased Upon Removal?
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHey David, A micro SD card with a working copy of Raspberry Pi OS has two partitions on the card: ?? - Partition 1 - FAT32 file system - holds /boot : A windows or Mac computer can read / write these files ?? - Partition 2 - EXT4 file system - holds all other parts of the OS, home directories, etc.: A Windows or Mac computer will NOT be able to see this file system or read/write any of these files You can see these partitions using the Linux command (here is an example for a Samsung 16GB micro-SD card): ?? sudo fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 ?? -- ?? Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 14.9 GiB, 15931539456 bytes, 31116288 sectors ?? Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes ?? Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes ?? I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes ?? Disklabel type: dos ?? Disk identifier: 0x92f034a6 ?? Device???????? Boot Start????? End? Sectors? Size Id Type ?? /dev/mmcblk0p1?????? 8192??? 93813??? 85622 41.8M? c W95 FAT32 (LBA) ?? /dev/mmcblk0p2????? 94208 31116287 31022080 14.8G 83 Linux ?? -- I think the issue that you're seeing here is an issue with your SD card *reader* on your other PC.? What *capacity* is your MicroSD card?? Is it larger than 32GB?? What is the labeling on your SD card reader? ? Does it have writing on the card showing compatibility for: ?? - SD ?? - SDHC ?? - SDXC ?? - MMC If I was to guess, you have a 64GB card and you're reader either doesn't have or has incomplete SDHC support.? I have been bitten by older SD card readers mis-reading bigger SD cards and if they seemed to read ok, writing to them would corrupt the SD card's file system.? It's really unacceptable that this is possible but I can personally tell you it *IS* possible and has happened to me a few times before.? If this is your scenario, I would recommend to *recycle* that old SD card reader and get something newer that has proper SD card support to avoid trashing future card events. --David KI6ZHD On 08/13/2021 05:34 PM, David AJ6RE
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After successfully using my Rpi 4 B+ for a few months as part of my homebrew mobile manpack rig I decided to back up the SD card prior to installing a GPS dongle. I did a sudo shutdown -h now and powered down. When I stuck the SD card it into my PC it was blank, save for the volume label.? |
Re: [EXTERNAL] [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] SD Cards Erased Upon Removal?
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uh NO!? The files are not being erased and the SD card is NOT blank! The "few" files that you can see are in the BOOT partition and it is formatted as FAT which windoz can see. The main partition is formatted for Linus, in EXT4 and windoz can not see them. Be careful because windoz can see this partition as another disk drive and wants to format it. DO NOT FORMAT IT! There are several ways to backup your SD card: -david On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 9:08 AM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
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Re: [EXTERNAL] [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] SD Cards Erased Upon Removal?
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SD card On Aug 14, 2021 9:43 AM, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
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Re: [EXTERNAL] [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] SD Cards Erased Upon Removal?
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Christopher Rose
Turn off the pi power supply, unplug it if necessary to make sure the pi is off before pulling as card? On Aug 13, 2021 11:39 PM, "David Harris via groups.io" <v-zonkeh@...> wrote:
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Re: SD Cards Erased Upon Removal?
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Just out of curiosity, what OS are you using when attempting to read the SD card (when it showed "blank")? -Sam KO4KBY On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 8:34 PM David AJ6RE <dc1@...> wrote: After successfully using my Rpi 4 B+ for a few months as part of my homebrew mobile manpack rig I decided to back up the SD card prior to installing a GPS dongle. I did a sudo shutdown -h now and powered down. When I stuck the SD card it into my PC it was blank, save for the volume label.? |
Re: SD Cards Erased Upon Removal?
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Actually...they are not any more "sensitive" to being removed than
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other solid-state-devices...which is to say they are NOT as sensitive as you suggest. Wait 30 secs or so.....THEN remove it....(just to "be-sure") es vy 73 om de "baab" w9ya On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 6:34 PM David AJ6RE <dc1@...> wrote:
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Re: SD Cards Erased Upon Removal?
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Apologies for the potential double-post.? I waited an hour since my last attempt to send:
Just out of curiosity, what OS are you using when attempting to read the SD card (when it showed "blank")?
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-Sam KO4KBY
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Re: SD Cards Erased Upon Removal?
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Did you try putting the card back in the Raspberry Pi before formatting it?
Linux, which HamPi runs on usually uses a filesystem that windows does not know how to read... It would be the same if you put the drive from a Mac in the PC and tried to read it. Linux can read almost any file system but Windows can only really read few(FAT, FAT32, ExtFAT, NTFS, etc.) You have to install a driver to get windows to read Linux and Mac partitions and file systems. You could have probably backed up the SD card with a RAW backup program that backs up the data one for one without having to understand it. Linux is VERY stable and not fragile. Last I checked about one half of all websites ran on it. I have been running Lunux for years, and so was not surprised that I could not see my files from windows, but I can understand how it could confuse someone that had no experience with it before. Linux has it's own backup software built in, and you could back everything up to a USB stick, USB HD, network, or the cloud. |
RealVNC loses connection
I can't seem to be able to maintain a VNC connection for more that a few minutes.
Does not matter if the connection is cloud or IP, I am lucky if I can maintain a connection for 10mts. I have the router setup to port 5900.? I have checked the When it disconnects and tries to reconnect I get the following message. ???? "Attempting to reconnect to VNC Server..." ???? "Times out waiting for response to "keep alive" message" I am beyond frustrated with this. Using Linux Mint as the viewer. I could really use some help with this. Thanks Carlos KE5DFK |
Re: [EXTERNAL] [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] SD Cards Erased Upon Removal?
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe RPi uses a different file system that a PC, which is why we use an ¡°Etcher¡± program to make a few FS¡ you¡¯d also need to use that Etcher to make a backup Image of the file system (with files) on your SD card¡ and then you could use Etcher to Etch a new card using that pre-populated image (and carry that spare card as your just-in-case SD card. ? ? ?????? -Z- ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of David AJ6RE via groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2021 5:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [EXTERNAL] [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] SD Cards Erased Upon Removal? #hampi #hardware #pi #raspberrypi #usability ? After successfully using my Rpi 4 B+ for a few months as part of my homebrew mobile manpack rig I decided to back up the SD card prior to installing a GPS dongle. I did a sudo shutdown -h now and powered down. When I stuck the SD card it
into my PC it was blank, save for the volume label.? |
SD Cards Erased Upon Removal?
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After successfully using my Rpi 4 B+ for a few months as part of my homebrew mobile manpack rig I decided to back up the SD card prior to installing a GPS dongle. I did a sudo shutdown -h now and powered down. When I stuck the SD card it into my PC it was blank, save for the volume label.?
After failed attempts to recover the data, I flashed a new card, installed Hampi again, started reconfiguring Flrig etc., Then I decided to double-check the new card. I did the graceful shutdown before pulling the card out but evidently wiped that one as well at some point in the process. All files were gone but for a couple of text files and the volume label. Subsequent online research indicates maybe I didn't let the pi shut down all the way before pulling the card. I did not know to wait for flashing lights after shutting down. However, I'm pretty sure I powered it down all the way after several seconds.?After spending hours flashing cards and looking forward to the prospect of going back to square one yet again and then reconfiguring the software again, and hoping it doesn't happen a third time, I am thinking the pi may just be too fragile a system to rely upon for emergency/mobile comms. It seems crazy that the SD card should be so vulnerable to erasure simply by being extracted from the Pi.? At this point I am planning on just using the Toughbook that I was using as a keyboard/screen interface to host the software and cut out the Pi. It's a shame since I've invested countless hours in getting Hampi up and running. Has anyone else had this experience? David AJ6RE?? |
NEW Hackable HF SDR for the Raspberry Pi by VU2ESE
Hi Everyone,
I just came across this Hackaday.com article about a user-modifiable HF SDR that should cost less than $100 USD for the Raspberry Pi here:? It comes from the same developer as the ubitx radio, VU2ESE, so points in its favor! For more info, you can visit these links: PDF here:? Message forum thread here:?/g/BITX20/topic/sbitx/83191173?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,20,83191173 GitHub repo here:? 73, -- - Dave ?? |
Re: FLDIGI 4.1.19 RPi4 GPIO PTT
Hi Dave, I reported this problem to Dave Freese, W1HKJ, right after 4.1.19 was released. He promptly fixed it and the fix is in the development release, currently at . Mosts of the Fldigi related posts are in the linuxham groups.io group. 73, Steve AG7GN |