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Roster & Results for RG Event Nr. 8Dec 12th @ 23:00 - 01:00 UTC (2 hours) This is a special 2-hour Sprint with a Tx list limit of 10 codegroups. Please read the event description HERE. This archived message post will be updated often with roster changes and scores. Your TX points will increase as other operators confirm groups that you transmitted. ------------------------------------------------
RandomGram Scores (Updated: 202312150007 UTC)
Call ???? Team?????? ??? ? TX??? ? RX??? ? Tot
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K9VKY ??? Bug??????? ??? ? 20??? ? 68??? ?? 88
K5KV ???? Bug??????? ??? ? 20??? ? 67??? ?? 87
WA9AQN??? Bug??????? ??? ? 20??? ? 66??? ?? 86
N0MII ??? Homebrew?? ??? ? 20??? ? 65??? ?? 85
NJ8L ???? Sideswiper ??? ? 20??? ? 57??? ?? 77
KB4QQJ??? Sideswiper ??? ? 20??? ? 56??? ?? 76
AF2Z ???? Sideswiper ??? ? 20??? ? 48??? ?? 68
AC2C ???? Sideswiper ??? ? 20??? ? 46??? ?? 66
VA3KOT??? ?????????? ??? ? 20??? ? 44??? ?? 64
WG0Y ???? StraightKey??? ? 20??? ? 38??? ?? 58
KF6NCX??? CWops????? ??? ? 20??? ? 37??? ?? 57
N8HWV ??? ?????????? ??? ? 20??? ? 35??? ?? 55
K1DJ ???? CWops????? ??? ? 20??? ? 34??? ?? 54
W9DLN ??? StraightKey??? ? 20??? ? 33??? ?? 53
WM4Q ???? Bug??????? ??? ? 20??? ? 31??? ?? 51
K3QP ???? Bug??????? ??? ? 20??? ? 26??? ?? 46
KK0U ???? Homebrew?? ??? ? 20??? ? 26??? ?? 46
KG0RD ??? ?????????? ??? ? 20??? ? 24??? ?? 44
KO4TFE??? ?????????? ??? ? 20??? ? 24??? ?? 44
AC5K ???? Bug??????? ??? ? 20??? ? 22??? ?? 42
W0BZ ???? ?????????? ??? ? 20??? ? 22??? ?? 42
N0HOV ??? ?????????? ??? ? 20??? ? 19??? ?? 39
K7SHR ??? ?????????? ??? ? 20??? ? 18??? ?? 38
N3PDT ??? StraightKey??? ? 20??? ? 18??? ?? 38
KB1FGC??? ?????????? ??? ? 20??? ? 12??? ?? 32
W4QDV ??? ?????????? ??? ? 20??? ? 12??? ?? 32
KD2YMM??? StraightKey??? ? 18??? ? 50??? ?? 68
W4CMG ??? ?????????? ??? ? 18??? ? 12??? ?? 30
WB9RCE??? ?????????? ??? ? 16??? ? 52??? ?? 68
WA6DES??? ?????????? ??? ? 16??? ? 34??? ?? 50
K5GD ???? ?????????? ??? ? 16??? ? 18??? ?? 34
N0VA ???? ?????????? ??? ? 16??? ?? 7??? ?? 23
W0MFQ ??? Homebrew?? ??? ? 10??? ? 35??? ?? 45
K4ARQ ??? ?????????? ??? ?? 8??? ?? 9??? ?? 17
N5DCH ??? ?????????? ??? ?? 8??? ?? 3??? ?? 11
VE3WH ??? Bug??????? ??? ?? 6??? ? 14??? ?? 20
KI5PED??? ?????????? ??? ?? 6??? ?? 7??? ?? 13
VE6VIC??? CWops????? ??? ?? 4??? ?? 8??? ?? 12
W4EMB ??? Homebrew?? ??? ?? 4??? ?? 1??? ??? 5
KO4UHE??? ?????????? ??? ?? 2??? ?? 5??? ??? 7
KO4WTM??? ?????????? ??? ?? 2??? ?? 2??? ??? 4
G0TRT ??? CWops????? ??? ?? 2??? ?? 1??? ??? 3
KZ5H ???? ?????????? ??? ?? 2??? ?? 1??? ??? 3
OE3IAK??? ?????????? ??? ?? 2??? ?? 1??? ??? 3
K0FL ???? ?????????? ??? ?? 2??? ?? -??? ??? 2
VK2GR ??? ?????????? ??? ?? -??? ?? 4??? ??? 4
Team????? ???? Mbrs??? ?Avg??? ? Tot
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StraightKey??? ?? 4??? ? 54??? ? 217
Bug?????? ???? ?? 7??? ? 60??? ? 420
Sideswiper ??? ?? 4??? ? 72??? ? 287
CWops???? ???? ?? 4??? ? 32??? ? 126
Homebrew? ???? ?? 4??? ? 45??? ? 181
TX = Transmit points (2-pts per code group)
RX = Copy points (1-pt per code group)
Mbrs = Nr of members on team
Avg = Average score per team member
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I've gotta say I had fun today with Event #8.? I was able to get rid of all 10 of my RandomGrams, which felt good.? We call this an event, or maybe a contest.? But it really seems to me to be a kind of CW practice.? You get sending practice, copying practice.? But instead of practicing with a computer, you are practicing on the air with other ops.? Makes it fun!
73,
Larry, kf6ncx
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Thanks, Larry.
I also liked the 2-hour "limited" sprint with the 10-group goal. I cycled through my groups about three times to make sure they were all QSL'd by other stations. I operated a lot like I do in the longer "unlimited" events: I often send CQ RG while listening to an adjacent station so I can pause to copy their traffic, or occasionally jump over and respond to his CQ. But It was nice having to meet a definite goal of 20 TX points. We will try it again some time.
Someone has suggested raising the goal to 40 TX points (20 code groups per TX list) for the 2-hour event. Obviously that would thin out the top tier. Currently about half of participants managed to get all 10 of their groups confirmed for the maximum 20 tx points.
Next event will be in February; probably the longer unlimited format. In the mean time...
January is Straight Key Month! I hope you'll all take part. See the SKM/K3Y page at
73,
Drew/AF2Z
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On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 08:12 AM, Larry KF6NCX wrote:
I've gotta say I had fun today with Event #8.? I was able to get rid of all 10 of my RandomGrams, which felt good.? We call this an event, or maybe a contest.? But it really seems to me to be a kind of CW practice.? You get sending practice, copying practice.? But instead of practicing with a computer, you are practicing on the air with other ops.? Makes it fun!
73,
Larry, kf6ncx
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DREW
I WANT TO ADD MY VOICE TO THOSE LIKING THE 2 HOUR FORMAT.? I THINK A FEW MORE GROUPS LIKE 10 GROUPS/EVENT-HOUR WOULD BE NICE BUT LIMITING THE EVENT TO 2 HOURS IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT. I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THE 2 HOUR FORMAT AND HOPE MORE FOLKS WILL JOIN IN THE FUN THAT ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE 9 HOUR GRIND.
I HAD MY DOUBTS ABOUT THE SHORTER EVENT WITH LIMITED GROUPS BUT BOTH WERE A NICE CHANGE AND HOPE WE CONTINUE WITH THE SHORTER EVENTS.
73 BENNY K5KV
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:55?AM Drew AF2Z < pubx1@...> wrote: Thanks, Larry.
I also liked the 2-hour "limited" sprint with the 10-group goal. I cycled through my groups about three times to make sure they were all QSL'd by other stations. I operated a lot like I do in the longer "unlimited" events: I often send CQ RG while listening to an adjacent station so I can pause to copy their traffic, or occasionally jump over and respond to his CQ. But It was nice having to meet a definite goal of 20 TX points. We will try it again some time.
Someone has suggested raising the goal to 40 TX points (20 code groups per TX list) for the 2-hour event. Obviously that would thin out the top tier. Currently about half of participants managed to get all 10 of their groups confirmed for the maximum 20 tx points.
Next event will be in February; probably the longer unlimited format. In the mean time...
January is Straight Key Month! I hope you'll all take part. See the SKM/K3Y page at
73,
Drew/AF2Z
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 08:12 AM, Larry KF6NCX wrote:
I've gotta say I had fun today with Event #8.? I was able to get rid of all 10 of my RandomGrams, which felt good.? We call this an event, or maybe a contest.? But it really seems to me to be a kind of CW practice.? You get sending practice, copying practice.? But instead of practicing with a computer, you are practicing on the air with other ops.? Makes it fun!
73,
Larry, kf6ncx
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Sri I missed it again.Will try harder next time 73
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I agree!? The shorter events concentrated the activity into a smaller space, making for more activity, more stations to hear and work.? I was also happy to see the event on a Tuesday rather than Friday, where the usual RG events conflict with the Friday SSTs.
73 - Rich, K1DJ
On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 02:38:53 PM EST, BENNY K5KV <k5kvm5@...> wrote:
DREW
I WANT TO ADD MY VOICE TO THOSE LIKING THE 2 HOUR FORMAT.? I THINK A FEW MORE GROUPS LIKE 10 GROUPS/EVENT-HOUR WOULD BE NICE BUT LIMITING THE EVENT TO 2 HOURS IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT. I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THE 2 HOUR FORMAT AND HOPE MORE FOLKS WILL JOIN IN THE FUN THAT ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE 9 HOUR GRIND.
I HAD MY DOUBTS ABOUT THE SHORTER EVENT WITH LIMITED GROUPS BUT BOTH WERE A NICE CHANGE AND HOPE WE CONTINUE WITH THE SHORTER EVENTS.
73 BENNY K5KV
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:55?AM Drew AF2Z < pubx1@...> wrote: Thanks, Larry.
I also liked the 2-hour "limited" sprint with the 10-group goal. I cycled through my groups about three times to make sure they were all QSL'd by other stations. I operated a lot like I do in the longer "unlimited" events: I often send CQ RG while listening to an adjacent station so I can pause to copy their traffic, or occasionally jump over and respond to his CQ. But It was nice having to meet a definite goal of 20 TX points. We will try it again some time.
Someone has suggested raising the goal to 40 TX points (20 code groups per TX list) for the 2-hour event. Obviously that would thin out the top tier. Currently about half of participants managed to get all 10 of their groups confirmed for the maximum 20 tx points.
Next event will be in February; probably the longer unlimited format. In the mean time...
January is Straight Key Month! I hope you'll all take part. See the SKM/K3Y page at
73,
Drew/AF2Z
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 08:12 AM, Larry KF6NCX wrote:
I've gotta say I had fun today with Event #8.? I was able to get rid of all 10 of my RandomGrams, which felt good.? We call this an event, or maybe a contest.? But it really seems to me to be a kind of CW practice.? You get sending practice, copying practice.? But instead of practicing with a computer, you are practicing on the air with other ops.? Makes it fun!
73,
Larry, kf6ncx
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RG8 certainly seemed busier than all the previous?events. I had a great time with lots of stations to work and mini pile-ups when I called CQ. Come on Drew, let's make this format permanent!
John Corby, VA3KOT
HamRadioOutsideTheBox.ca
I agree!? The shorter events concentrated the activity into a smaller space, making for more activity, more stations to hear and work.? I was also happy to see the event on a Tuesday rather than Friday, where the usual RG events conflict with the Friday SSTs.
73 - Rich, K1DJ
On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 02:38:53 PM EST, BENNY K5KV < k5kvm5@...> wrote:
DREW
I WANT TO ADD MY VOICE TO THOSE LIKING THE 2 HOUR FORMAT.? I THINK A FEW MORE GROUPS LIKE 10 GROUPS/EVENT-HOUR WOULD BE NICE BUT LIMITING THE EVENT TO 2 HOURS IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT. I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THE 2 HOUR FORMAT AND HOPE MORE FOLKS WILL JOIN IN THE FUN THAT ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE 9 HOUR GRIND.
I HAD MY DOUBTS ABOUT THE SHORTER EVENT WITH LIMITED GROUPS BUT BOTH WERE A NICE CHANGE AND HOPE WE CONTINUE WITH THE SHORTER EVENTS.
73 BENNY K5KV
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:55?AM Drew AF2Z < pubx1@...> wrote: Thanks, Larry.
I also liked the 2-hour "limited" sprint with the 10-group goal. I cycled through my groups about three times to make sure they were all QSL'd by other stations. I operated a lot like I do in the longer "unlimited" events: I often send CQ RG while listening to an adjacent station so I can pause to copy their traffic, or occasionally jump over and respond to his CQ. But It was nice having to meet a definite goal of 20 TX points. We will try it again some time.
Someone has suggested raising the goal to 40 TX points (20 code groups per TX list) for the 2-hour event. Obviously that would thin out the top tier. Currently about half of participants managed to get all 10 of their groups confirmed for the maximum 20 tx points.
Next event will be in February; probably the longer unlimited format. In the mean time...
January is Straight Key Month! I hope you'll all take part. See the SKM/K3Y page at
73,
Drew/AF2Z
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 08:12 AM, Larry KF6NCX wrote:
I've gotta say I had fun today with Event #8.? I was able to get rid of all 10 of my RandomGrams, which felt good.? We call this an event, or maybe a contest.? But it really seems to me to be a kind of CW practice.? You get sending practice, copying practice.? But instead of practicing with a computer, you are practicing on the air with other ops.? Makes it fun!
73,
Larry, kf6ncx
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I also liked the 2-hour format and having it on a weekday evening.
Plus, having the limited RG set and 2-hour window meant we were all encouraged to send our groups more than once if possible, so as to be assured of getting our groups logged and reported.
And while there¡¯s a certain ¡®contest¡¯ flavor to this event, there¡¯s also a desire to get our messages through quickly AND accurately. The shorter time frame meant we were spending our time exchanging groups (or copying them) rather than hunting and hunting for someone new to work (if only for variety).
I¡¯m okay with a return to the previous format... but I really hope we might see "alternating formats.¡± so this one gets another run some day. (Or maybe there¡¯s yet another style of RG coming from Drew!)
Whatever happens, I¡¯ll be there. RG is a fun evening!
73, Jeff N0?MII?
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Thanks for all the comments. A number of them were in favor of the short event and having a larger number of groups (on the TX List). I'll be kicking around a few ideas for doing this in the new year, as well as favorable event times, without complicating things. In the mean time, feel free to post or email your comments.
73,
Drew/AF2Z
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On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 08:58 PM, John VA3KOT wrote:
RG8 certainly seemed busier than all the previous?events. I had a great time with lots of stations to work and mini pile-ups when I called CQ. Come on Drew, let's make this format permanent!
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John Corby, VA3KOT
HamRadioOutsideTheBox.ca
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I haven¡¯t had a chance to participate because it¡¯s during my commute home.?
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 6:45?PM Drew AF2Z < pubx1@...> wrote: Thanks for all the comments. A number of them were in favor of the short event and having a larger number of groups (on the TX List). I'll be kicking around a few ideas for doing this in the new year, as well as favorable event times, without complicating things. In the mean time, feel free to post or email your comments.
73,
Drew/AF2Z
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 08:58 PM, John VA3KOT wrote:
RG8 certainly seemed busier than all the previous?events. I had a great time with lots of stations to work and mini pile-ups when I called CQ. Come on Drew, let's make this format permanent!
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John Corby, VA3KOT
HamRadioOutsideTheBox.ca
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I also found the short RG 8 along with a week day time frame preferable. If you want to make it more challenging, add a larger TX list but just 10 was good enough for me. As others have mentioned, this type event is good for getting folks on the air and providing a little challenge at sending and receiving coded groups with accuracy. Thank you Drew for managing these events. And, especially posting the participant results within minutes of submittal.?
73,
Tom W0MFQ
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I will also chime in that I liked the 2-hour sprint format.? I think with only 10 groups, most folks peetered out towards the end, as they had sent their groups multiple times.
Perhaps 20 groups is a good balance, as you mentioned.? Either way, a lot of fun!
73, Jim KK0U
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Drew, I like a 2-hour window with to RandomGram codes. Because of the limited timeframe everyone was exchanging information at a nice pace. The problem I experienced was the time 2300-0100. This translates to my local time of 5-7 PM? (central). I do not get home from work until 6 PM.
Please consider a later timeframe to accommodate people in different timezones for the next event.
On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 01:42:33 PM CST, Jim KK0U <ars.kk0u@...> wrote:
I will also chime in that I liked the 2-hour sprint format.? I think with only 10 groups, most folks peetered out towards the end, as they had sent their groups multiple times.
Perhaps 20 groups is a good balance, as you mentioned.? Either way, a lot of fun!
73, Jim KK0U
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Hi Jim,
Unfortunately, there are many who will find a 2-hour sprint to be at an inconvenient time, no matter when. That is the disadvantage compared to a longer event.
Here are two possibilities:
- Monthly sprint, alternating between 2000-2200 UTC one month, then 0000-0200 UTC the next month;
- Semi-monthly sprint, with first sprint at 2000-2200 UTC; second sprint a couple of weeks later and different day at 0000-0200 UTC.
No clock change for DST. The number of code groups would vary and be announced for each sprint; either 10 groups; 25 groups; or unlimited groups.
I'm not sure how a semi-monthly sprint would work out; could give it a try...
73,
Drew/AF2Z
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On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 07:59 PM, Jim KG0RD wrote:
Drew,
I like a 2-hour window with to RandomGram codes.
Because of the limited timeframe everyone was
exchanging information at a nice pace.
The problem I experienced was the time 2300-0100.
This translates to my local time of 5-7 PM? (central).
I do not get home from work until 6 PM.
Please consider a later timeframe to accommodate
people in different timezones for the next event.
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Please don't consider a later timeframe if you'd like participation outside of North America.?
CWops gets around the timezone issue by running the CWT in four 1 hour slots, 13z 19z 03z and 07z.?
73 Ciemon G0TRT?
Drew, I like a 2-hour window with to RandomGram codes. Because of the limited timeframe everyone was exchanging information at a nice pace. The problem I experienced was the time 2300-0100. This translates to my local time of 5-7 PM? (central). I do not get home from work until 6 PM.
Please consider a later timeframe to accommodate people in different timezones for the next event.
On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 01:42:33 PM CST, Jim KK0U < ars.kk0u@...> wrote:
I will also chime in that I liked the 2-hour sprint format.? I think with only 10 groups, most folks peetered out towards the end, as they had sent their groups multiple times.
Perhaps 20 groups is a good balance, as you mentioned.? Either way, a lot of fun!
73, Jim KK0U
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The current time didn¡¯t work for me in Central (UTC-6)..Maybe an 8 hour event with ops limited to any 2 hours?
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73 David VE4DL
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Drew AF2Z
John WG9K
Jeff Logullo N0?MII
Jim KG0RD
David VE4DL