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PFE Class R-30-9 Question

Don Hand All Messages By This Member #11260 I am preparing a project to build models of PFE Class R-30-9, "reconditioned cars", in three configurations:? a) PFE 91022 - 95736, with wood hatch covers and wood hatch platforms; b) PFE 95737 - 98718, with Equipo steel hatches; and c) Western Pacific-owned PFE 50001 - 50899, also with wood hatch covers and wood hatch platforms. ? So, I wonder if all Western Pacific-owned R-30-x series cars had been reconditioned to R-30-9 standards, before the introduction of Equipo ice hatches?? If not, is there photo or textual evidence that would support another configuration; that of a WP-owned R-30-9 with Equipo steel hatches? ? As a related matter, an article I've saved addresses the final reconditioning (circa 1953) of WP-owned R-30-9 cars, which were then renumbered into the series PFE 55000.? It says that the wood hatch covers were re-used again; and does not mention any Equipo steel hatches in the mix.? Thanks for any help! ? Don Hand Hempstead, Texas
Michael Brilliot All Messages By This Member #11268 I am also building PFE R-30-9 rebuilds. I am using Red Caboose kits and modeling them as first rebuilt in the late 30's and early 40's. In the literature?I have seen, including Tony Thompson's PFE book, I have not seen anything that would imply that Western Pacific used Equipo hatches at any point in their histrory. There?has been. number of discussion on the R-30-9 rebuilds on the UP email group over the last year, and ( I think?) the Espee group as well. You?probably have the resources below, but just in case you don't....I found the information on building up a correct?R-30-9 underframe particularly?useful. ? ? ? Michael Brilliot San Jose, CA ? ?
Dick Harley All Messages By This Member #11269 ? Hello Don, ? You did not state the year(s) you are modeling.? Even PFE itself was inconsistent in using the terms "rebuilt" and "reconditioned."? So, we need to know dates to get the car details correct.? Note that the R-30/40-9 car bodies were taller than the earlier cars they were rebuilt from - changing the cubic capacity from 1918 cuft. to 1988 cuft. ? There is a tremendous resource of PFE car data from May 1951 at the California State RR Museum Library.? See message #11024 on this list for more information. Also look for "PFE 1951 ufilm Car Cards" in the Files area of this list for an Excel file finding aid to those Car Cards. ? That Car Card data says that R-30/40-9 cars #95742 to 95918 had Holland hatch covers, and cars #95922 and higher had Equipco hatch covers. That needs more investigation. ? I know of no data that WP reefer rebuilds received Equipco hatch covers, even though they continued to be rebuilt after the R-30/40-9 cars first received Equipco hatch covers in October 1939.? ? ? Cheers, Dick Harley Laguna Beach,? CA ? .
Bob Chaparro All Messages By This Member #11421 Tim O'Connor commented: Wood sheathed R-30-9 reefers were definitely around in the late 1950s. Hundreds of 30-ton cars are listed in the 1959 ORER.

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