Oddly, when I did the initial Google search, in addition to the Ebay result, the following link turned up, it was obviously the same as the Ebay sale, with the same pictures:



When I attempted to go to the same link a few minutes later, it was giving the same 404 result it gives now. I didn't give it much thought as I wasn't intending to buy anything, just looking for a clue about the batteries.

A bit more light Googling suggests that the address given for that business doesn't exist, there doesn't appear to be a Columbia Road in Dover USA. There is a Columbia Ave, but the premises numbering goes nowhere near 4474.

Keith


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter Gottlieb
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2024 1:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RacalRadio] Seeking battery information/source

Very curious!

I actually have three, just need good batteries and wanted to take a quick look and see if the seller had just battery cases. Yes I understand the technical issues with low power etc.

Peter


On 8/8/2024 8:40 AM, Eric Boyle via groups.io wrote:

Be forewarned that there are two identical listings with two totally
different sellers on that exact radio.

Be forewarned that there are two identical listings with two totally
different sellers on that exact radio.

Be forewarned that there are two identical listings with two totally different sellers on that exact radio.

Hello Peter,

I'm a very long way from being knowledgeable about any of these radios, but, from looking at the pictures of the 6894 on Ebay and elsewhere (link below), I'd say that the batteries are not compatible - the 6894 appears to have a totally different method of attachment to the radio.

Keith








-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter Gottlieb
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2024 12:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RacalRadio] Seeking battery information/source

Are these batteries interchangeable with those for the PRC6894?

I have several of these nice radios but the battery situation is a bit grim.

Peter


On 8/6/2024 2:53 PM, Spence G5STO via groups.io wrote:

Hi Keith, I designed my own battery case and 3D printed it but it
wasn’t anywhere near tough enough for safe storage of the batteries.
I’m sure you could fashion something out of plastic and keep the top.

De Spence G5STO


Sent while portable! please excuse typos.

On 6 Aug 2024, at 19:03, Warren via groups.io
<leserve1@...> wrote:

? Hi Keith et all,
Reading your last post regarding the dimensions, I’m thinking you are
talking about the large capacity cougar battery. I think It is
higher(longer) than the standard Axes offered batteries, as it is a
higher amperage battery. So 85mm would sound correct as against the
normal 75mm high cougar battery. I’ll try and measure my batteries and confirm.
BW
Warren
M0WLS

On 6 Aug 2024, at 18:45, Keith <keith@...> wrote:

?
Spence & Robin,
Thanks for the replies.
I've got one of the Axess batteries, Robin. That version is too
short to take the 18650-based battery pack. However, it is exactly the same "style"
as the larger battery I have - the two are interchangeable on the radio.
Spence - the dimensions of the larger battery are the same as the
4516 battery in the X and Z axis (approx 73 and 30mm respectively),
but the Y axis for the larger battery is approx 82mm compared to 67mm for the smaller.
The 75mm I mentioned in my first post is the Y axis dimension
excluding the plastic case top that mounts the metal battery contacts.
A bit of googling of the battery types you mention fails to throw up
an actual spec for the batteries (I'd settle for just the size!),
but does show two suppliers with stock that's probably suitable for re-celling.
Unfortunately, it's not possible to judge from the pictures shown
whether those batteries have the larger Y axis. However, those
batteries are clearly "thicker", but the supplier states that they
still fit onto these radios. If they are big enough to take the
Lithium pack, then they would be a functional solution but not very
pretty! I'll try contacting them to ask about tht critical dimension.
Keith

Hi Keith, I designed my own battery case and 3D printed it but it
wasn’t anywhere near tough enough for safe storage of the batteries.
I’m sure you could fashion something out of plastic and keep the top.

De Spence G5STO


Sent while portable! please excuse typos.

On 6 Aug 2024, at 19:03, Warren via groups.io
<leserve1@...> wrote:

? Hi Keith et all,
Reading your last post regarding the dimensions, I’m thinking you are
talking about the large capacity cougar battery. I think It is
higher(longer) than the standard Axes offered batteries, as it is a
higher amperage battery. So 85mm would sound correct as against the
normal 75mm high cougar battery. I’ll try and measure my batteries and confirm.
BW
Warren
M0WLS

On 6 Aug 2024, at 18:45, Keith <keith@...> wrote:

?
Spence & Robin,
Thanks for the replies.
I've got one of the Axess batteries, Robin. That version is too
short to take the 18650-based battery pack. However, it is exactly the same "style"
as the larger battery I have - the two are interchangeable on the radio.
Spence - the dimensions of the larger battery are the same as the
4516 battery in the X and Z axis (approx 73 and 30mm respectively),
but the Y axis for the larger battery is approx 82mm compared to 67mm for the smaller.
The 75mm I mentioned in my first post is the Y axis dimension
excluding the plastic case top that mounts the metal battery contacts.
A bit of googling of the battery types you mention fails to throw up
an actual spec for the batteries (I'd settle for just the size!),
but does show two suppliers with stock that's probably suitable for re-celling.
Unfortunately, it's not possible to judge from the pictures shown
whether those batteries have the larger Y axis. However, those
batteries are clearly "thicker", but the supplier states that they
still fit onto these radios. If they are big enough to take the
Lithium pack, then they would be a functional solution but not very
pretty! I'll try contacting them to ask about tht critical dimension.
Keith

?

Hi Keith, I designed my own battery case and 3D printed it but it wasn’t anywhere near tough enough for safe storage of the batteries. I’m sure you could fashion something out of plastic and keep the top.

?

Hi Keith et all,

Hi Keith, I designed my own battery case and 3D printed it but it wasn’t anywhere near tough enough for safe storage of the batteries. I’m sure you could fashion something out of plastic and keep the top.

? De Spence G5STO


Sent while portable! please excuse typos.

On 6 Aug 2024, at 19:03, Warren via groups.io <leserve1@...> wrote:

? Hi Keith et all,
Reading your last post regarding the dimensions, I’m thinking you are talking about the large capacity cougar battery. I think It is higher(longer) than the standard Axes offered batteries, as it is a higher amperage battery. So 85mm would sound correct as against the normal 75mm high cougar battery. I’ll try and measure my batteries and confirm.
BW
Warren
M0WLS

On 6 Aug 2024, at 18:45, Keith <keith@...> wrote:

?
Spence & Robin,
Thanks for the replies.
I've got one of the Axess batteries, Robin. That version is too short to take the 18650-based battery pack. However, it is exactly the same "style" as the larger battery I have? - the two are interchangeable on the radio.
Spence - the dimensions of the larger battery are the same as the 4516 battery in the X? and Z axis (approx 73 and 30mm respectively), but the Y axis for the larger battery is approx 82mm compared to 67mm for the smaller. The 75mm I mentioned in my first post is the Y axis dimension excluding the plastic case top that mounts the metal battery contacts.
A bit of googling of the battery types you mention fails to throw up an actual spec for the batteries (I'd settle for just the size!), but does show two suppliers with stock that's probably suitable for re-celling. Unfortunately, it's not possible to judge from the pictures shown whether those batteries have the larger Y axis. However, those batteries are clearly "thicker", but the supplier states that they still fit onto these radios. If they are big enough to take the Lithium pack, then they would be a functional solution but not very pretty! I'll try contacting them to ask about tht critical dimension.
Keith

On 6 Aug 2024, at 19:03, Warren via groups.io <leserve1@...> wrote:

?Hi Keith et all,

Reading your last post regarding the dimensions, I’m thinking you are talking about the large capacity cougar battery. I think It is higher(longer) than the standard Axes offered batteries, as it is a higher amperage battery. So 85mm would sound correct as against the normal 75mm high cougar battery. I’ll try and measure my batteries and confirm.

BW

Warren

M0WLS

On 6 Aug 2024, at 18:45, Keith <keith@...> wrote:

?

Spence & Robin,

?

Thanks for the replies.

?

I've got one of the Axess batteries, Robin. That version is too short to take the 18650-based battery pack. However, it is exactly the same "style" as the larger battery I have? - the two are interchangeable on the radio.

?

Spence - the dimensions of the larger battery are the same as the 4516 battery in the X? and Z axis (approx 73 and 30mm respectively), but the Y axis for the larger battery is approx 82mm compared to 67mm for the smaller. The 75mm I mentioned in my first post is the Y axis dimension excluding the plastic case top that mounts the metal battery contacts.

?

A bit of googling of the battery types you mention fails to throw up an actual spec for the batteries (I'd settle for just the size!), but does show two suppliers with stock that's probably suitable for re-celling. Unfortunately, it's not possible to judge from the pictures shown whether those batteries have the larger Y axis. However, those batteries are clearly "thicker", but the supplier states that they still fit onto these radios. If they are big enough to take the Lithium pack, then they would be a functional solution but not very pretty! I'll try contacting them to ask about tht critical dimension.

?

Keith

?

On 6 Aug 2024, at 18:45, Keith <keith@...> wrote:

?

Spence & Robin,

?

Thanks for the replies.

?

I've got one of the Axess batteries, Robin. That version is too short to take the 18650-based battery pack. However, it is exactly the same "style" as the larger battery I have? - the two are interchangeable on the radio.

?

Spence - the dimensions of the larger battery are the same as the 4516 battery in the X? and Z axis (approx 73 and 30mm respectively), but the Y axis for the larger battery is approx 82mm compared to 67mm for the smaller. The 75mm I mentioned in my first post is the Y axis dimension excluding the plastic case top that mounts the metal battery contacts.

?

A bit of googling of the battery types you mention fails to throw up an actual spec for the batteries (I'd settle for just the size!), but does show two suppliers with stock that's probably suitable for re-celling. Unfortunately, it's not possible to judge from the pictures shown whether those batteries have the larger Y axis. However, those batteries are clearly "thicker", but the supplier states that they still fit onto these radios. If they are big enough to take the Lithium pack, then they would be a functional solution but not very pretty! I'll try contacting them to ask about tht critical dimension.

?

Keith

?

So very Sorry to hear this, Stuart. Do you remember the serial number of the radio and the VIU? I know they are easily removable, but may help more if known by everybody who moves in these circles.

73,

Warren

On 5 Aug 2024, at 19:29, Stuart Mckinnon via groups.io <stuartjmckinnon@...> wrote:

?

Ladies and Gents

Please diseminate

Stuart

G0TBI

This happened at an event at South Cerney on the weekend

----- Forwarded message -----

From: Stuart Mckinnon <stuartjmckinnon@...>

To: VMARS groups.io <[email protected]>

Sent: Monday, 5 August 2024 at 19:18:18 BST

Subject: STOLEN radio PLEASE READ

For those of you not on the various FB and WA groups that my Military vehicle Colleagues helped me with on Sunday

On Saturday Night/Sunday Morning, My Lightweight or Airportable Land Rover was attacked and my Racal 2000 'V' was ripped out, by thieves, they removed the control cable and Coax Connector from the front of the VIU, but could not fathom how to disconnect the DC 2 Pin Larger Racal Power plug, so they yanked it away with the DC plug still in situ, leaving pos and Neg/Shield remnants of the cable behind, it was a good job I always switch off the Dist box.

This must have been someone who had visited the VMARS compliment, and seen me talking or demoing the radio, who clearly took a shine to it, relieving me of it in the early hours

The Theft has been logged with Glos Police and I am awaiting a Crime Number from SOC,

Please keep your eyes peeled for a E Bay or Market Place of any other area that Mil radio is offered

There is a Substantial reward offered for information received leading to offenders and or return of Eqpt

This photograph is dated Jun 2023 and luckily that was in my gallery on my Phone

If you can help contact me privately.

Tank you

Stuart

G0TBI

07860 496516

Please feel free to diseminate this msg far and wide and maybe it will come to light!

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On 6 Aug 2024, at 07:12, Robin Maddison via groups.io <robin@...> wrote:

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