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Is your EKA information accurate?


 

Good Morning. I do very extensive genealogy research with many services. Some use AI. I have found AI can be a useful tool, but it has its’ limitations. Occasionally AI interprets information completely wrong. Additionally, it does not give you the true meaning of the document. There are many tools that will help decipher and interpret documents. I find it useful best not to use AI where other tools are available. I have extensive trees that date my German and English heritage back to the 1500s or more. AI will never replace humans. AI cannot think, it interprets. The one given being is that if you make one simple mistake it can cause your trees to be complete wrong. AI cannot spot those mistakes. Genealogy is a slow and deliberate science

Happy New Year

Mike Thompson

On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 4:32?PM Gary M. via <gddmorrison=[email protected]> wrote:
Even more impressive that a machine composed it.

It is impressive, but it raises the issue of what may be the uses and abuses of Ai in the realm of genealogy. Has anyone looked into this?

Regards, and best wishes to all for a healthy and happy New Year!

--
GaryM.


 

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Genealogically speaking, when the English wills get transcribed (and some are being transcribed using AI) and made “available”, then turning AI loose with that info could do wonders for “Colonials” looking for British relatives.

Jim

On Jan 1, 2025, at 10:40?AM, Roy via groups.io <node999@...> wrote:

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Happy New Year to all.
My view has always been that the value of technology lies mainly in the users intent. However, with AI things become somewhat blurred.
Roy


 

Happy New Year to all.
My view has always been that the value of technology lies mainly in the users intent. However, with AI things become somewhat blurred.

Roy


 

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Yes..I have “toyed” with the AI modules in MyHeritage.

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From a computer science perspective, I found it both interesting and impressive in some regards.

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As a social scientist/genealogist, it was a stark reminder that AI can be a useful tool, but is no substitute for human expertise and knowledge.

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Richard

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Gary M. via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2024 1:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] Is your EKA information accurate?

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Even more impressive that a machine composed it.

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It is impressive, but it raises the issue of what may be the uses and abuses of Ai in the realm of genealogy. Has anyone looked into this?



Regards, and best wishes to all for a healthy and happy New Year!


--
GaryM.


 

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Tried it when I researched the Cookes of West Sussex.

AI needs more access to be useful.


On Dec 31, 2024, at 4:32?PM, Gary M. via groups.io <gddmorrison@...> wrote:

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Even more impressive that a machine composed it.

It is impressive, but it raises the issue of what may be the uses and abuses of Ai in the realm of genealogy. Has anyone looked into this?

Regards, and best wishes to all for a healthy and happy New Year!

--
GaryM.


 

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Even more impressive that a machine composed it.

It is impressive, but it raises the issue of what may be the uses and abuses of Ai in the realm of genealogy. Has anyone looked into this?

Regards, and best wishes to all for a healthy and happy New Year!

--
GaryM.


Piero Sinclair
 

Still incredible though.?


On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, 18:32 Piero Sinclair via , <pierosinclair=[email protected]> wrote:
Oh dear.

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, 18:16 Roy via , <node999=[email protected]> wrote:
Even more impressive that a machine composed it.

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 at 11:21, Piero Sinclair via <pierosinclair=[email protected]> wrote:
Cripes! Very impressive.

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, 15:08 Roy via , <node999=[email protected]> wrote:


The Ancestral Quest: A Genealogist's Tale

(To the tune of "The Ballad of Gilligan's Isle")

Verses:

Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale,
Of seekers bold and sly,
Who swabbed their cheeks with a hopeful grin,
And mailed their genes to fly.

They dreamed of kings and castles grand,
A noble, royal line,
But the story told by their DNA
Was anything but divine.

A Viking? A Celt? A samurai bold?
Nope—just a farmer’s son,
Who tilled the dirt and fed the sheep,
'Neath a cloud-blocked Irish sun.

Then, lo! A cousin comes into view,
A match so strong, it gleams!
But all they want is your family tree,
For their migration schemes.

Oh, whispers rise of scandals deep,
Of bastards, shame, and lies,
The knight you swore to hold in pride
Was a smith in low disguise.

The triumphs sweet, the pitfalls wild,
As history’s veil you peel,
The maze of lives and names unfolds,
Your tangled truth revealed!


Refrain:

Oh, mighty Y, it leads the way,
The patriarch’s genetic sway,
But one mutation breaks the chain,
And leaves your dreams in vain.

And mitochondria sings its song,
Of mothers’ lines so long,
But Eve’s refrain is vague at best,
And haplogroups can’t rest.

Then autosomal joins the show,
Its threads in chaos grow,
A teaspoon here, a smidgeon there,
To weave your tale of woe.

So mix your genes and test your code,
A quest both high and low,
For though it mocks, the truth still calls,
To find what you don’t know!


Closing Verse:

Still onward march, you seekers brave,
Through records worn and frayed,
The magic’s not in what you find,
But in the hunt replayed.

So raise your vial, your spit, your dream,
Your tangled roots entwine,
For though it mocks, it lifts your soul,
To chase your unknown line!



Piero Sinclair
 

Oh dear.


On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, 18:16 Roy via , <node999=[email protected]> wrote:
Even more impressive that a machine composed it.

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 at 11:21, Piero Sinclair via <pierosinclair=[email protected]> wrote:
Cripes! Very impressive.

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, 15:08 Roy via , <node999=[email protected]> wrote:


The Ancestral Quest: A Genealogist's Tale

(To the tune of "The Ballad of Gilligan's Isle")

Verses:

Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale,
Of seekers bold and sly,
Who swabbed their cheeks with a hopeful grin,
And mailed their genes to fly.

They dreamed of kings and castles grand,
A noble, royal line,
But the story told by their DNA
Was anything but divine.

A Viking? A Celt? A samurai bold?
Nope—just a farmer’s son,
Who tilled the dirt and fed the sheep,
'Neath a cloud-blocked Irish sun.

Then, lo! A cousin comes into view,
A match so strong, it gleams!
But all they want is your family tree,
For their migration schemes.

Oh, whispers rise of scandals deep,
Of bastards, shame, and lies,
The knight you swore to hold in pride
Was a smith in low disguise.

The triumphs sweet, the pitfalls wild,
As history’s veil you peel,
The maze of lives and names unfolds,
Your tangled truth revealed!


Refrain:

Oh, mighty Y, it leads the way,
The patriarch’s genetic sway,
But one mutation breaks the chain,
And leaves your dreams in vain.

And mitochondria sings its song,
Of mothers’ lines so long,
But Eve’s refrain is vague at best,
And haplogroups can’t rest.

Then autosomal joins the show,
Its threads in chaos grow,
A teaspoon here, a smidgeon there,
To weave your tale of woe.

So mix your genes and test your code,
A quest both high and low,
For though it mocks, the truth still calls,
To find what you don’t know!


Closing Verse:

Still onward march, you seekers brave,
Through records worn and frayed,
The magic’s not in what you find,
But in the hunt replayed.

So raise your vial, your spit, your dream,
Your tangled roots entwine,
For though it mocks, it lifts your soul,
To chase your unknown line!



 

Even more impressive that a machine composed it.

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 at 11:21, Piero Sinclair via <pierosinclair=[email protected]> wrote:
Cripes! Very impressive.

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, 15:08 Roy via , <node999=[email protected]> wrote:


The Ancestral Quest: A Genealogist's Tale

(To the tune of "The Ballad of Gilligan's Isle")

Verses:

Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale,
Of seekers bold and sly,
Who swabbed their cheeks with a hopeful grin,
And mailed their genes to fly.

They dreamed of kings and castles grand,
A noble, royal line,
But the story told by their DNA
Was anything but divine.

A Viking? A Celt? A samurai bold?
Nope—just a farmer’s son,
Who tilled the dirt and fed the sheep,
'Neath a cloud-blocked Irish sun.

Then, lo! A cousin comes into view,
A match so strong, it gleams!
But all they want is your family tree,
For their migration schemes.

Oh, whispers rise of scandals deep,
Of bastards, shame, and lies,
The knight you swore to hold in pride
Was a smith in low disguise.

The triumphs sweet, the pitfalls wild,
As history’s veil you peel,
The maze of lives and names unfolds,
Your tangled truth revealed!


Refrain:

Oh, mighty Y, it leads the way,
The patriarch’s genetic sway,
But one mutation breaks the chain,
And leaves your dreams in vain.

And mitochondria sings its song,
Of mothers’ lines so long,
But Eve’s refrain is vague at best,
And haplogroups can’t rest.

Then autosomal joins the show,
Its threads in chaos grow,
A teaspoon here, a smidgeon there,
To weave your tale of woe.

So mix your genes and test your code,
A quest both high and low,
For though it mocks, the truth still calls,
To find what you don’t know!


Closing Verse:

Still onward march, you seekers brave,
Through records worn and frayed,
The magic’s not in what you find,
But in the hunt replayed.

So raise your vial, your spit, your dream,
Your tangled roots entwine,
For though it mocks, it lifts your soul,
To chase your unknown line!



 

My personal muse, ChatGPT.

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 at 11:14, Rob <Rob104@...> wrote:
Thank you Roy, great stuff!

I'm going to pass that along -
To whom does the credit belong?

Rob Jacobson


On 12/29/2024 10:07 AM, Roy via wrote:
> ------------------------------
> *The Ancestral Quest: A Genealogist's Tale*
>
> (*To the tune of "The Ballad of Gilligan's Isle"*)
>
> *Verses:*
>
> Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale,
> Of seekers bold and sly,
> Who swabbed their cheeks with a hopeful grin,
> And mailed their genes to fly.
>
> They dreamed of kings and castles grand,
> A noble, royal line,
> But the story told by their DNA
> Was anything but divine.
>
> A Viking? A Celt? A samurai bold?
> Nope—just a farmer’s son,
> Who tilled the dirt and fed the sheep,
> 'Neath a cloud-blocked Irish sun.
>
> Then, lo! A cousin comes into view,
> A match so strong, it gleams!
> But all they want is your family tree,
> For their migration schemes.
>
> Oh, whispers rise of scandals deep,
> Of bastards, shame, and lies,
> The knight you swore to hold in pride
> Was a smith in low disguise.
>
> The triumphs sweet, the pitfalls wild,
> As history’s veil you peel,
> The maze of lives and names unfolds,
> Your tangled truth revealed!
> ------------------------------
>
> *Refrain:*
>
> Oh, mighty Y, it leads the way,
> The patriarch’s genetic sway,
> But one mutation breaks the chain,
> And leaves your dreams in vain.
>
> And mitochondria sings its song,
> Of mothers’ lines so long,
> But Eve’s refrain is vague at best,
> And haplogroups can’t rest.
>
> Then autosomal joins the show,
> Its threads in chaos grow,
> A teaspoon here, a smidgeon there,
> To weave your tale of woe.
>
> So mix your genes and test your code,
> A quest both high and low,
> For though it mocks, the truth still calls,
> To find what you don’t know!
> ------------------------------
>
> *Closing Verse:*
>
> Still onward march, you seekers brave,
> Through records worn and frayed,
> The magic’s not in what you find,
> But in the hunt replayed.
>
> So raise your vial, your spit, your dream,
> Your tangled roots entwine,
> For though it mocks, it lifts your soul,
> To chase your unknown line!
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>







Piero Sinclair
 

Cripes! Very impressive.


On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, 15:08 Roy via , <node999=[email protected]> wrote:


The Ancestral Quest: A Genealogist's Tale

(To the tune of "The Ballad of Gilligan's Isle")

Verses:

Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale,
Of seekers bold and sly,
Who swabbed their cheeks with a hopeful grin,
And mailed their genes to fly.

They dreamed of kings and castles grand,
A noble, royal line,
But the story told by their DNA
Was anything but divine.

A Viking? A Celt? A samurai bold?
Nope—just a farmer’s son,
Who tilled the dirt and fed the sheep,
'Neath a cloud-blocked Irish sun.

Then, lo! A cousin comes into view,
A match so strong, it gleams!
But all they want is your family tree,
For their migration schemes.

Oh, whispers rise of scandals deep,
Of bastards, shame, and lies,
The knight you swore to hold in pride
Was a smith in low disguise.

The triumphs sweet, the pitfalls wild,
As history’s veil you peel,
The maze of lives and names unfolds,
Your tangled truth revealed!


Refrain:

Oh, mighty Y, it leads the way,
The patriarch’s genetic sway,
But one mutation breaks the chain,
And leaves your dreams in vain.

And mitochondria sings its song,
Of mothers’ lines so long,
But Eve’s refrain is vague at best,
And haplogroups can’t rest.

Then autosomal joins the show,
Its threads in chaos grow,
A teaspoon here, a smidgeon there,
To weave your tale of woe.

So mix your genes and test your code,
A quest both high and low,
For though it mocks, the truth still calls,
To find what you don’t know!


Closing Verse:

Still onward march, you seekers brave,
Through records worn and frayed,
The magic’s not in what you find,
But in the hunt replayed.

So raise your vial, your spit, your dream,
Your tangled roots entwine,
For though it mocks, it lifts your soul,
To chase your unknown line!



 

Thank you Roy, great stuff!

I'm going to pass that along -
To whom does the credit belong?

Rob Jacobson

On 12/29/2024 10:07 AM, Roy via groups.io wrote:
------------------------------
*The Ancestral Quest: A Genealogist's Tale*
(*To the tune of "The Ballad of Gilligan's Isle"*)
*Verses:*
Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale,
Of seekers bold and sly,
Who swabbed their cheeks with a hopeful grin,
And mailed their genes to fly.
They dreamed of kings and castles grand,
A noble, royal line,
But the story told by their DNA
Was anything but divine.
A Viking? A Celt? A samurai bold?
Nope—just a farmer’s son,
Who tilled the dirt and fed the sheep,
'Neath a cloud-blocked Irish sun.
Then, lo! A cousin comes into view,
A match so strong, it gleams!
But all they want is your family tree,
For their migration schemes.
Oh, whispers rise of scandals deep,
Of bastards, shame, and lies,
The knight you swore to hold in pride
Was a smith in low disguise.
The triumphs sweet, the pitfalls wild,
As history’s veil you peel,
The maze of lives and names unfolds,
Your tangled truth revealed!
------------------------------
*Refrain:*
Oh, mighty Y, it leads the way,
The patriarch’s genetic sway,
But one mutation breaks the chain,
And leaves your dreams in vain.
And mitochondria sings its song,
Of mothers’ lines so long,
But Eve’s refrain is vague at best,
And haplogroups can’t rest.
Then autosomal joins the show,
Its threads in chaos grow,
A teaspoon here, a smidgeon there,
To weave your tale of woe.
So mix your genes and test your code,
A quest both high and low,
For though it mocks, the truth still calls,
To find what you don’t know!
------------------------------
*Closing Verse:*
Still onward march, you seekers brave,
Through records worn and frayed,
The magic’s not in what you find,
But in the hunt replayed.
So raise your vial, your spit, your dream,
Your tangled roots entwine,
For though it mocks, it lifts your soul,
To chase your unknown line!
------------------------------


 

Ha!? What a stitch!? Pretty much describes my DNA journey, though.

Bernie Leopold


On Sun, Dec 29, 2024, 9:08?AM Roy via <node999=[email protected]> wrote:


The Ancestral Quest: A Genealogist's Tale

(To the tune of "The Ballad of Gilligan's Isle")

Verses:

Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale,
Of seekers bold and sly,
Who swabbed their cheeks with a hopeful grin,
And mailed their genes to fly.

They dreamed of kings and castles grand,
A noble, royal line,
But the story told by their DNA
Was anything but divine.

A Viking? A Celt? A samurai bold?
Nope—just a farmer’s son,
Who tilled the dirt and fed the sheep,
'Neath a cloud-blocked Irish sun.

Then, lo! A cousin comes into view,
A match so strong, it gleams!
But all they want is your family tree,
For their migration schemes.

Oh, whispers rise of scandals deep,
Of bastards, shame, and lies,
The knight you swore to hold in pride
Was a smith in low disguise.

The triumphs sweet, the pitfalls wild,
As history’s veil you peel,
The maze of lives and names unfolds,
Your tangled truth revealed!


Refrain:

Oh, mighty Y, it leads the way,
The patriarch’s genetic sway,
But one mutation breaks the chain,
And leaves your dreams in vain.

And mitochondria sings its song,
Of mothers’ lines so long,
But Eve’s refrain is vague at best,
And haplogroups can’t rest.

Then autosomal joins the show,
Its threads in chaos grow,
A teaspoon here, a smidgeon there,
To weave your tale of woe.

So mix your genes and test your code,
A quest both high and low,
For though it mocks, the truth still calls,
To find what you don’t know!


Closing Verse:

Still onward march, you seekers brave,
Through records worn and frayed,
The magic’s not in what you find,
But in the hunt replayed.

So raise your vial, your spit, your dream,
Your tangled roots entwine,
For though it mocks, it lifts your soul,
To chase your unknown line!



 


The Ancestral Quest: A Genealogist's Tale

(To the tune of "The Ballad of Gilligan's Isle")

Verses:

Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale,
Of seekers bold and sly,
Who swabbed their cheeks with a hopeful grin,
And mailed their genes to fly.

They dreamed of kings and castles grand,
A noble, royal line,
But the story told by their DNA
Was anything but divine.

A Viking? A Celt? A samurai bold?
Nope—just a farmer’s son,
Who tilled the dirt and fed the sheep,
'Neath a cloud-blocked Irish sun.

Then, lo! A cousin comes into view,
A match so strong, it gleams!
But all they want is your family tree,
For their migration schemes.

Oh, whispers rise of scandals deep,
Of bastards, shame, and lies,
The knight you swore to hold in pride
Was a smith in low disguise.

The triumphs sweet, the pitfalls wild,
As history’s veil you peel,
The maze of lives and names unfolds,
Your tangled truth revealed!


Refrain:

Oh, mighty Y, it leads the way,
The patriarch’s genetic sway,
But one mutation breaks the chain,
And leaves your dreams in vain.

And mitochondria sings its song,
Of mothers’ lines so long,
But Eve’s refrain is vague at best,
And haplogroups can’t rest.

Then autosomal joins the show,
Its threads in chaos grow,
A teaspoon here, a smidgeon there,
To weave your tale of woe.

So mix your genes and test your code,
A quest both high and low,
For though it mocks, the truth still calls,
To find what you don’t know!


Closing Verse:

Still onward march, you seekers brave,
Through records worn and frayed,
The magic’s not in what you find,
But in the hunt replayed.

So raise your vial, your spit, your dream,
Your tangled roots entwine,
For though it mocks, it lifts your soul,
To chase your unknown line!



Piero Sinclair
 

clever clogs robot changed autosomal to autumnal. Thought you were being poetic for a minute, which would have been refreshing on this forum.


On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, 03:21 Michael Thompson via , <fastmike51=[email protected]> wrote:
Hello,

I haven’t been around in awhile. But I did want to let the group know that I have documented evidence and genealogy that proves my two paternal family names Monsees and Stejles (Stelges, Stellges and Stelljes) come from the Hanover district in Germany. They immigrated to the US in the 1800s to New York, Missouri and Maryland. They are still localized in those places.I have numerous Autumnal matches from many family members from eight generations back to the present. Lain or someone in the group can you update me on my new haplo group as far as origin and the current TMRC..
?
Thank you

Michael Thompson
Test FTdan 378155
Haplogroup R-Y49873


On Dec 28, 2024, at 12:20?AM, Brian Swann via <brian_swann=[email protected]> wrote:

I suggest we wait until David Vance gets his feet under his new desk at FTDNA, and also until the 2nd edition of this book gets published, which should not be that far away into 2025, so I am told.

?

?

As I posted initially whether the computer programming at FTDNA can be modified to accommodate this desire will be the practical limitation of turning such ideas into reality. But it will be a theme we will return to as this whole area moves forwards.

?

Brian

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of cfbandit via
Sent: 27 December 2024 23:10
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] Is your EKA information accurate?

?

That's an interesting point Joe - we have the Graves family association data as well which can push their DNA connections to a specific genealogy. While I don't have all of the paperwork since we're the second generation of the project, we certainly have well established paper genealogies AND the projects related to the DNA lines. Ross and I often know much more about their genealogies than the individuals submitting to our project do, and can group them accordingly.?

?

Iain, if that data from the Graves family association project?would be useful to you, please let me know. After January 2025 though please - I'm super busy this time of year due to my annual work conference.?

?

Concetta Phillipps

?

On Sun, Dec 15, 2024 at 10:14?PM Joe Fox via <jmfoxiii=[email protected]> wrote:

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After reading? the many comments to my post, I am inclined to agree with Brian that project administrators should be able to interpret a matching group's Y-DNA results and assign the common ancestor 's location. I can do this with my own results since I administer the Fox Project. I am 100% sure of the Wiltshire location and 95% sure he was Henrie Fox born about 1550 in Devizes, Wiltshire. There are other Foxes matching me with a much earlier ancestor but I don't yet know the location except that it was in England.? This is what project administrators are doing all the time with their matching groups but we don't interfere with an individual's own EKA assignment.? I think that Iain should be interested in these group location assignments but don't see how to convey the information properly.

?

Joe Fox




 

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Hello,

I haven’t been around in awhile. But I did want to let the group know that I have documented evidence and genealogy that proves my two paternal family names Monsees and Stejles (Stelges, Stellges and Stelljes) come from the Hanover district in Germany. They immigrated to the US in the 1800s to New York, Missouri and Maryland. They are still localized in those places.I have numerous Autumnal matches from many family members from eight generations back to the present. Lain or someone in the group can you update me on my new haplo group as far as origin and the current TMRC..
?
Thank you

Michael Thompson
Test FTdan 378155
Haplogroup R-Y49873


On Dec 28, 2024, at 12:20?AM, Brian Swann via groups.io <brian_swann@...> wrote:

I suggest we wait until David Vance gets his feet under his new desk at FTDNA, and also until the 2nd edition of this book gets published, which should not be that far away into 2025, so I am told.

?

?

As I posted initially whether the computer programming at FTDNA can be modified to accommodate this desire will be the practical limitation of turning such ideas into reality. But it will be a theme we will return to as this whole area moves forwards.

?

Brian

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of cfbandit via groups.io
Sent: 27 December 2024 23:10
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] Is your EKA information accurate?

?

That's an interesting point Joe - we have the Graves family association data as well which can push their DNA connections to a specific genealogy. While I don't have all of the paperwork since we're the second generation of the project, we certainly have well established paper genealogies AND the projects related to the DNA lines. Ross and I often know much more about their genealogies than the individuals submitting to our project do, and can group them accordingly.?

?

Iain, if that data from the Graves family association project?would be useful to you, please let me know. After January 2025 though please - I'm super busy this time of year due to my annual work conference.?

?

Concetta Phillipps

?

On Sun, Dec 15, 2024 at 10:14?PM Joe Fox via <jmfoxiii=[email protected]> wrote:

?

After reading? the many comments to my post, I am inclined to agree with Brian that project administrators should be able to interpret a matching group's Y-DNA results and assign the common ancestor 's location. I can do this with my own results since I administer the Fox Project. I am 100% sure of the Wiltshire location and 95% sure he was Henrie Fox born about 1550 in Devizes, Wiltshire. There are other Foxes matching me with a much earlier ancestor but I don't yet know the location except that it was in England.? This is what project administrators are doing all the time with their matching groups but we don't interfere with an individual's own EKA assignment.? I think that Iain should be interested in these group location assignments but don't see how to convey the information properly.

?

Joe Fox




 

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I suggest we wait until David Vance gets his feet under his new desk at FTDNA, and also until the 2nd edition of this book gets published, which should not be that far away into 2025, so I am told.

?

?

As I posted initially whether the computer programming at FTDNA can be modified to accommodate this desire will be the practical limitation of turning such ideas into reality. But it will be a theme we will return to as this whole area moves forwards.

?

Brian

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of cfbandit via groups.io
Sent: 27 December 2024 23:10
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] Is your EKA information accurate?

?

That's an interesting point Joe - we have the Graves family association data as well which can push their DNA connections to a specific genealogy. While I don't have all of the paperwork since we're the second generation of the project, we certainly have well established paper genealogies AND the projects related to the DNA lines. Ross and I often know much more about their genealogies than the individuals submitting to our project do, and can group them accordingly.?

?

Iain, if that data from the Graves family association project?would be useful to you, please let me know. After January 2025 though please - I'm super busy this time of year due to my annual work conference.?

?

Concetta Phillipps

?

On Sun, Dec 15, 2024 at 10:14?PM Joe Fox via <jmfoxiii=[email protected]> wrote:

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After reading? the many comments to my post, I am inclined to agree with Brian that project administrators should be able to interpret a matching group's Y-DNA results and assign the common ancestor 's location. I can do this with my own results since I administer the Fox Project. I am 100% sure of the Wiltshire location and 95% sure he was Henrie Fox born about 1550 in Devizes, Wiltshire. There are other Foxes matching me with a much earlier ancestor but I don't yet know the location except that it was in England.? This is what project administrators are doing all the time with their matching groups but we don't interfere with an individual's own EKA assignment.? I think that Iain should be interested in these group location assignments but don't see how to convey the information properly.

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Joe Fox


 

That's an interesting point Joe - we have the Graves family association data as well which can push their DNA connections to a specific genealogy. While I don't have all of the paperwork since we're the second generation of the project, we certainly have well established paper genealogies AND the projects related to the DNA lines. Ross and I often know much more about their genealogies than the individuals submitting to our project do, and can group them accordingly.?

Iain, if that data from the Graves family association project?would be useful to you, please let me know. After January 2025 though please - I'm super busy this time of year due to my annual work conference.?

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On Sun, Dec 15, 2024 at 10:14?PM Joe Fox via <jmfoxiii=[email protected]> wrote:
After reading? the many comments to my post, I am inclined to agree with Brian that project administrators should be able to interpret a matching group's Y-DNA results and assign the common ancestor 's location. I can do this with my own results since I administer the Fox Project. I am 100% sure of the Wiltshire location and 95% sure he was Henrie Fox born about 1550 in Devizes, Wiltshire. There are other Foxes matching me with a much earlier ancestor but I don't yet know the location except that it was in England.? This is what project administrators are doing all the time with their matching groups but we don't interfere with an individual's own EKA assignment.? I think that Iain should be interested in these group location assignments but don't see how to convey the information properly.
Joe Fox


 

Iain, all U-106 matters aside, I hope that your family "misfortunes" are not too serious or long-lasting.

Happy Holidays to you, your family and to everyone at U-106!




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Project administrators did previously have the ability to change the EKA information for their project members. If I recall correctly, this ability was removed when all the GDPR changes were brought in. Unfortunately I can't see FTDNA reverting to the old system.

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Debbie

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Joe Fox via groups.io
Sent: 16 December 2024 04:14
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Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] Is your EKA information accurate?

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After reading? the many comments to my post, I am inclined to agree with Brian that project administrators should be able to interpret a matching group's Y-DNA results and assign the common ancestor 's location. I can do this with my own results since I administer the Fox Project. I am 100% sure of the Wiltshire location and 95% sure he was Henrie Fox born about 1550 in Devizes, Wiltshire. There are other Foxes matching me with a much earlier ancestor but I don't yet know the location except that it was in England.? This is what project administrators are doing all the time with their matching groups but we don't interfere with an individual's own EKA assignment.? I think that Iain should be interested in these group location assignments but don't see how to convey the information properly.

Joe Fox

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