On Apr 9, 2025, at 9:58?AM, Iain via groups.io <gubbins@...> wrote:

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Hi Bill,

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I'm not sure what you're trying to show here. The thread you're replying to is about R-Z18. Ribe 3 is part of R-FTA52889, on completely the other side of R-U106.

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Ribe 3 is related to the R-FGC10252 Picton family via R-L47. R-L47 is about 4500 years old, contains over 7000 modern testers at Family Tree DNA, and probably represents about 1% of men of European descent. So you're not wrong to say he's related to them, but it is a very obscure relationship.

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We have a member of the Capetian dynasty tested at Family Tree DNA. Assuming they are who they say they are (which we have no reason to doubt), their ancestry is certain beyond reasonable doubt. They are in a completely different branch of R-U106 again, R-BY16435 under R-DF98. There is another tester in R-FGC15439 under R-Z159 who claims descent from Hugh Capet. We have not had an opportunity to examine his genealogy in detail. NPEs are always a possibility, but proving this genealogy would be an uphill struggle.

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I'm also not sure where the Angell family fits in. To my knowledge, we don't have a test from this family. So I'm at a bit of a loss making sense of your information here!

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Best wishes,

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Iain.