> CGG_2_023808 - Bronze Age Spanish (circa 1950 BC, Motilla Del Azuer, 39.04N 3.50W), R-Y3444 ~= R-BY30097>FTT8>FGC396
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> CGG_2_023808 sits towards the end of the predicted range of ages for R-FGC396. This could mean that he is actually pre-FGC396, and only positive for some of the SNPs that make up the current list for haplogroup R-FGC396.
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Holy smokes: an ancient R-FGC396/Y3444??!!
If pre-FGC396 and extinct lineage excepted, FTDNA may have to insert in a wicked hair-pin on the path to R-FGC396 from his R-FTT8 ancestor in Sachsen-Anhalt south of Berlin c. 2850 BCE, down to central Spain, then back to then back up to Cologne c. 2100 BCE to meet up with the oddly-specific yet extremely speculative origin of my Y-line ancestor.
If not excepted, this implies that the region surrounding Noord-Brabant may have been Bell-beaker (or source thereof) during the 3rd millennium BCE?
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Jesting aside, my early efforts for getting R-FGC396 into the Y-Full Tree, the ISOGG Y-tree, and YHRD.org appear to be paying off.? :o)
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Not jesting: Its a damn shame FTDNA still hasn't published their Y-SNP haplotree for academic peer review, because Y-Full and ISOGG are still the go-to cite-able sources, and the ISOGG Y-tree is no longer being updated nor has any hope of being updated in the future [way too much work, way too little volunteers, zero budget, no chance of a budget increase, and lacks the server-side infrastructure to support it].
So, yeah, essentially has become host and curator of the "official" scientific reference Y-haplotree.
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Best regards,
Vince T.
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