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Re: VK389 and Kincaid dna as evidence of Vikings on Clyde river, Scotland?


 

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what number constitutes a few ?
Also, might someone share the link to the Ancient DNA study of Viking that includes mapped data.? I seemed to have missplaced link that I had.??


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Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] VK389 and Kincaid dna as evidence of Vikings on Clyde river, Scotland?
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For what it's worth, the Kincaid's nearest neighbour and holder of some Kincaid lands were the Galbraiths.? They are a sub R-Z159 clade (Z159>S8368>FGC15450>FGC15439>FGC15440).? As some of you may know from Raymond Wing's work, R-Z159 sub clades appear in a few ancient dna samples of Viking origin.? A most interesting thing about the Galbraiths is that they also have a huge gap in their history with 27 snps between them and their nearest branch.? Again, rightly or wrongly, this to me suggests isolation.

Furthermore, the Kincaid's other closest ancestor (flanking them on the north and south) were the Stirlings of Glorat and Cadder (the former deriving from the latter).? Their dna results are inconclusive as they have several competing haplogroups and no lines with any connection to the Scottish lands.? However, paper research has long ago shown they descend from one Thoraldus of Cadder in the 12th century.

The Kincaids themselves derive their coat of arms from a branch of the Crawfords who I have shown were in the adjacent lands of Baldoran since the late 1300s ().? Based on the Ragman Rolls one suspects they were there from at least the late 1200s.? The Crawfords were long claimed to descend from Thorlongus of Ednam in Roxburgshire.? They are I-A1612 which is an I-M253 clade.

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