¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThis will become a not uncommon problem. ? I have had to tell one family in America fairly recently that they have an NPE event around 1675 in America ¨C and they are all really Swanns ¨C all of them. ? We even have this problem with the Royal Family ¨C if you recall the Y-DNA testing of Richard III ¨C the one male line which should correlate with his Y-DNA signature did not. ? And they would not let Turi King into Westminster Abbey to look at the royal bodies buried there to find out the truth. ? Of course, one interpretation of the origin of the surname Wallace was that they came from Wales. ? Brian ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2024 2:55 PM To: R1b-u106 Groups IO <[email protected]> Subject: [R1b-U106] New Big Y results; The Foster/Forrester ...........Wallace connection ? Hi All, ? After hanging out with the?R-FGC910 branches for the last four years, through my Gleave surname and very small surname project, I decided to test my mother's paternal line and luckily managed to convince one of my male cousins to take the Big Y. ? The Foster's originate from Western Scotland and moved to Liverpool, in around 1850. My Grandad was proud of his Scottish heritage (as well as Everton while we support Liverpool!!) and I even have an old Robert Burns song book in the Forrester/Foster green colours, which has been handed down through the family. ? I have managed to trace the Foster's back to Greenock in Scotland but have a brick wall with my 3rd Great Grandfather as I cannot locate his birth certificate anywhere. The objective of the test was partly to see if I could break through this wall, as well as establish the origins of the Fosters. ? The results have now come back and I have another line which is in the R1b-U106 brotherhood although this time in a completely different branch under R-DF98. The terminal Haplogroup is R-194282 and there is not one single Foster/Forrester match at any level of testing!! Six out of nine of the Big Y matches have a Wallace surname (although they are downstream of R-194282) while the STR testing results at 111 and 67 are also dominated by Wallaces. ? Should we now change the Foster/Forrester colours on the Burns book with Wallace? Could this be a potential surname switch, a not the parent expected or some other explanation? I read Ian's excellent analysis on the King's cluster which provided great insight into this branch of the tree.? ? If anyone can recommend any further reading on ancestry in Western Scotland, that would also be greatly received. ? Many thanks and Best, ? Mike Gleave ? |
