Re: Name associated with a haplogroup
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Michael,
What you need to consider is how your surname may have been Anglicized.? So if Sartor represents a potential geographic reference point would a previous generation in your line spell the name as say Primmel or Preim.? Look at German surname distribution frequencies and see how they might overlay with Sartor surname frequencies.? To figure out tree and relationships you may need to look at identifying someone "local" to you who has a surname variant of interest on Primm or Sartor then volunteer to get them tested for STR-37.? If there is a close match then you see if you can get a BigY out of them to start to flesh out the "recent" family tree via SNPs. This lays the groundwork as to which surname might apply prior 1600.? ?
Multiple individuals/cousins from each line should be tested to confirm a lineage back through the generations.? For you and Sartor testing a 3rd or 4th cousin would start the process.
Wayne K.
On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 05:16:57 PM EST, Michael Primm <mrprimm53@...> wrote:
I've never heard the name Jacob Sartor before this. Does this mean he is an ancestor or just has the same haplogroup?
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 1:55?PM Michael Primm via <mrprimm53= [email protected]> wrote: Thanks Vince :)
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 1:21?PM vineviz < vincent@...> wrote: Mike,
You can probably go ahead and join the R-U106 project at FTDNA.
If you go to the DNA Results page of that project, near the top there is a search box.? Choose ¡°Subgroup Name¡± contains ¡°?BY79404¡± then click the search icon.? Two kits should come up, one with Big Y test results ?and the other just a prediction (but apparently a close Y-STR match).
The kit that has Big Y has been moved to R-FTF20075 which appears to be a new subclade of R-BY79404.? Based on your story, my guess is that your test result might have helped create that subclade even though the results didn¡¯t pass final QA.? The ancestor¡¯s surname is?Johann Jacob Sartor, b. 1695 and d. 1751 from Germany.
Vince Vizachero
On Jan 29, 2024, at 1:51 PM, Michael Primm < mrprimm53@...> wrote:
Hello everyone, I ordered my Big-Y about 9 weeks ago. I was supposed to get the first results (111) about now, but something went wrong in the lab. So, they needed to re-test the sample which takes a few more weeks. Ok, I can deal with that, it happens.? I originally took the Nebula Genomics DNA test prior to the FTDNA test. I got the Y-DNA haplogroup of?R-A17384, which is how I became associated with the U106 group. So, I did a search on the FTDNA site to see if it came up with any info. First off it changed the R-A17384 to?R-BY79404, which is fine. It says: The man who is the most recent common ancestor of this line is estimated to have been born around 1550 CE. He is the most recent paternal line ancestor of all members of this group.
There are 3 DNA tested descendants, and they specified that their earliest known origins are from: Germany and 2 from unknown countries. I then called the Big-Y customer service thinking I could get a name of either the man in 1550 or one of the 3 tested with my haplogroup. Nope! No can do. Must wait for the results. Bummer.
He did say I could search the haplogroup for a name but didn't say how to go about it. Any ideas? I've had this brick wall for over 20 years, searching for my 3rd GG parents on my father's side.
Below is the page I was referring to.
Thank you, Mike
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Wayne