Re: Family Finder tests entering the Y-DNA haplotree
|
Hi Ewenn,
Can you check your data for R-S9509? There's been no change in that clade for at least 5 years as I manage both of the bigY kits.? (Unless the change is due to some FF result that I cannot see.)
Thanks,? John Terwiske
[Edited Message Follows]
A quick analysis of R-Z18, between November 29 and December 8, 2023, a branch which seems instructive to me on the contribution of FF tests.
Stats (including all subclades):
Kits: +599
bigY: +7
Countries:
| EKA¡¯s Origin |
Country code |
? |
2023-11-29 |
? |
2023-12-08 |
? |
Increase |
| Unknown Origin |
X |
? |
1054 |
? |
1554 |
? |
47.44% |
| Sweden |
SE |
? |
192 |
? |
213 |
? |
10.94% |
| United States |
US |
? |
186 |
? |
205 |
? |
10.22% |
| England |
ENG |
? |
229 |
? |
242 |
? |
5.68% |
| Norway |
NO |
? |
92 |
? |
99 |
? |
7.61% |
| Scotland |
SCT |
? |
141 |
? |
146 |
? |
3.55% |
| Germany |
DE |
? |
102 |
? |
106 |
? |
3.92% |
| United Kingdom |
GBR |
? |
77 |
? |
81 |
? |
5.19% |
| Netherlands |
NL |
? |
31 |
? |
34 |
? |
9.68% |
| Ireland |
IE |
? |
50 |
? |
53 |
? |
6.00% |
| Switzerland |
CH |
? |
30 |
? |
32 |
? |
6.67% |
| Denmark |
DK |
? |
19 |
? |
21 |
? |
10.53% |
| Wales |
WLS |
? |
14 |
? |
16 |
? |
14.29% |
| Poland |
PL |
? |
15 |
? |
17 |
? |
13.33% |
| Finland |
FI |
? |
39 |
? |
41 |
? |
5.13% |
| Northern Ireland |
NIR |
? |
9 |
? |
11 |
? |
22.22% |
| Russian Federation |
RU |
? |
5 |
? |
7 |
? |
40.00% |
| Belgium |
BE |
? |
4 |
? |
5 |
? |
25.00% |
| Italy |
IT |
? |
8 |
? |
9 |
? |
12.50% |
| Estonia |
EE |
? |
4 |
? |
5 |
? |
25.00% |
| Venezuela |
VE |
? |
0 |
? |
1 |
? |
--- |
| Spain (La Rioja) |
--- |
? |
0 |
? |
1 |
? |
--- |
| Argentina |
AR |
? |
0 |
? |
1 |
? |
--- |
~16.5% of new kits having declared their EKA's country of origin.
Clades:
| Clade |
? kits |
? bigY |
? |
Increase |
? |
TMRCA |
| R-Z18 |
208 |
0 |
? |
38.31% |
? |
~2231 BCE [-2870 ; -1675] |
| R-S5684 |
54 |
0 |
? |
450.00% |
? |
~67 BCE [-477 ; 277] |
| R-CTS2158 |
53 |
0 |
? |
240.91% |
? |
~742 BCE [-1264 ; -301] |
| R-CTS12023 |
40 |
0 |
? |
86.96% |
? |
~686 BCE [-1182 ; -266] |
| R-L257 |
40 |
0 |
? |
26.49% |
? |
~1395 BCE [-1950 ; -917] |
| R-Z372 |
36 |
0 |
? |
120.00% |
? |
~1564 BCE [-2118 ; -1084] |
| R-ZP30 |
35 |
0 |
? |
269.23% |
? |
~102 BCE [-501 ; 236] |
| R-Z375 |
26 |
0 |
? |
108.33% |
? |
~172 BCE [-550 ; 151] |
| R-S11601 |
22 |
0 |
? |
91.67% |
? |
~1381 BCE [-1987 ; -865] |
| R-ZP48 |
18 |
0 |
? |
450.00% |
? |
~569 CE [141 ; 909] |
| R-S3207 |
15 |
0 |
? |
--- |
? |
~990 BCE [-1505 ; -549] |
| R-ZP8 |
10 |
0 |
? |
200.00% |
? |
~94 BCE [-467 ; 223] |
| R-S4037 |
8 |
0 |
? |
72.73% |
? |
~405 BCE [-933 ; 34] |
| R-S4031 |
6 |
0 |
? |
600.00% |
? |
~1241 BCE [-1795 ; -767] |
| R-S5750 |
5 |
0 |
? |
62.50% |
? |
~1069 CE [857 ; 1245] |
| R-Z378 |
4 |
0 |
? |
50.00% |
? |
~845 BCE [-1328 ; -431] |
| R-ZP261 |
3 |
0 |
? |
150.00% |
? |
~1576 CE [1398 ; 1710] |
| R-FT111760 |
2 |
0 |
? |
40.00% |
? |
~1739 CE [1579 ; 1853] |
| R-S9509 |
2 |
0 |
? |
100.00% |
? |
~1912 CE [1784 ; 1985] |
| R-S6358 |
2 |
0 |
? |
18.18% |
? |
~867 CE [649 ; 1052] |
| R-S3514 |
1 |
0 |
? |
25.00% |
? |
~878 CE [389 ; 1243] |
R-FT131424 |
1 |
1 |
? |
--- |
? |
~787 BCE [-1818 ; 5] |
R-BY111283 |
1 |
1 |
? |
100.00% |
? |
~1074 CE [619 ; 1407] |
R-ZP78 |
1 |
1 |
? |
33.33% |
? |
~1049 CE [826 ; 1234] |
| R-SK1171 |
1 |
0 |
? |
--- |
? |
~1010 CE [618 ; 1307] |
| R-FT61322 |
1 |
0 |
? |
50.00% |
? |
~741 CE [190 ; 1153] |
| R-S5673 |
1 |
0 |
? |
50.00% |
? |
~247 BCE [-687 ; 125] |
R-FTB29811 |
1 |
1 |
? |
50.00% |
? |
~1253 CE [784 ; 1579] |
R-BY17442 |
1 |
1 |
? |
--- |
? |
~92 CE [-458 ; 531] |
R-FTD44136 |
1 |
1 |
? |
50.00% |
? |
~280 BCE [-1449 ; 565] |
R-BY41942 |
1 |
1 |
? |
50.00% |
? |
~1847 CE [1524 ; 1994] |
Barred clades are, a priori, those concerned by the addition of bigY tests (7 in total in the time interval considered).
NOTA:
For SNP Z18 (R-Z18 only, without sub-clades), the SNP Map tool shows +20 kits with a precise location of their EKA, or +25.6%, between November 14 and December 10. No modification observed on equivalent SNPs (e.g.: Z14, Z16, ...), which give ¡°exotic¡± Haplogroups (R-Z14, R-Z16).
R-ZP261: TMRCA ~1576 CE, block of 19 equivalent SNPs, +3 kits. Parent clade: R-ZP161, TMRCA ~124 BCE. These 3 kits most likely do not test positive for these 19 SNPs, based on a simple FF test. It seems a priori possible that one or more of these 3 kits could split the current R-ZP261 block (unless they are close relatives of agnatic lines having passed a bigY test).
Ewenn
|
John Terwiske