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Re: Family Finder tests entering the Y-DNA haplotree


 

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YES! ?I¡¯ve seen an example this morning of a tester who only has a 67 marker Y test, and Family Finder. ?He now has a CTS12023 Y haplogroup designation from his FF test.

When I look at another member in CTS12023¡¯s 67 match list, this FF-designated new CTS12023 result shows up on the other CTS12023 member¡¯s match list with his tests from FF and 67 markers, and his Y-haplogroup as R-CTS12023.

However, keep in mind that these new FF-designated Y haplogroups are mostly showing up as between 2000 or 3000 years old. ?So matching someone¡¯s STRs who shares a haplogroup with you that far upstream would not be too likely, since there¡¯s been a long time for each of your STR haplotypes to diverge beyond FTDNA¡¯s limits.

In this particular case, CTS12023 is Discover dated to 700 BC. ?

CTS12023 is an immediate subgroup of Z18, and the FF tester is now showing positive for both on his Haplotree.

Charles?

On Dec 8, 2023, at 3:22?AM, jason jordan <jasonmjordan76@...> wrote:

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Will these updates show on y matches as well.? I know from other test I am down z30 pf5143 off the top of my head but my 111 test has me only as m269.

On Fri, 8 Dec 2023, 09:18 Jamie, <jamieferguson@...> wrote:
This is excellent news. I have an example in my area - downstream of R-DF98.?
A US tester, but of almost immediate German heritage, who had done Y-111 and Family Finder. His initial FF initially gave R-M269 as usual. I knew from his STR data however that he would almost certainly be part of ¡®my¡¯ R-PH2163 tree - whose parent SNP is R-S11739 (and which is Germanic).
?Today his haplogroup designation has changed to R-S11739. Result!?
Perhaps now I can convince him to do BigY.

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