Re: Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment
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Dear Julie ? We are very sorry to learn of your husband¡¯s death. ? I will contact you off list to sort out the mailing list subscription. ? Best wishes ? Debbie Kennett U106 List administrator ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mr Iain Fraser
Sent: Monday, November 6, 2023 1:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Julie <julieoliver2006@...>
Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] Question re: changes to haplogroup assignment? My name is Julie Fraser, wife of Iain Fraser, and I am replying to this message to let you know that after a long battle with lung cancer Iain sadly died on 18/10/23.? As there seem to be a lot of messages to him from this group I thought I should send you a message. ? My wife is 75% Mexican Indian and her father is R-M269.? Still trying to figure that one out.? ? On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 14:46 Vince Tilroe <vtilroe@...> wrote: "First, we filter out samples with country/haplogroup combinations that don¡¯t make sense for Pre-Columbian travel. For example, Eurasian haplogroup R1b should not be in the United States, nor should Native American haplogroup Q-M3 be in Europe."
I really wish someone would seriously challenge the notion that there's absolutely no R1b inherent in native North Americans.? R1b-M269 is estimated to be approximately 17,000 years old, branching off from R1-M173 just after the last glacial maximum period, during which the Bering Land Bridge was still traverse-able.
noticed that the ancient MA-1 specimen (upper paleolithic Mal'ta¨CBuret' culture from Siberia, the so-called Mal'ta Boy) shares ancestry with both Eurasians and Native North Americans, and is dated to approximately 24,000 ybp. I recall that a genetic genealogist on the old DNA-Forums.org site had investigated the Y-chromosome data for MA-1, and found that he may have branched off at an intermediate SNP within the R1-M173 block.
Consequently I hold onto the hypothesis that some Native North Americans may have branched off between R1-M173 (circa 20,000 BCE) and R1b-P297 (circa 12,000 BCE).
Best regards,
Vince T.
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