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Some people signed up to this io site, which is good. A lot of people don't like Facebook, so maybe some will come here if it's promoted. I prefer this format simply because Facebook is a huge time-waster for me -- I get sucked into hours there, instead of minutes, and it's mostly junk -- and because this is an email format.? I'm sure if you check with Mike W you'll discover L513 forum was private long before we switched to Facebook.

Per Little surname: do you know if anybody has advanced/promoted the idea that the surname Little likely originated from galgadael which I mentioned a few years ago?? If Glendon(g?)wyn can eventually change to to Glendenning, or Clendenin, etc., I see no reason why Little, which I believe originated from Liddell, couldn't have originated from a name for a group of people, "foreign Gaels", which even ended up on maps know as Galloway and previously as Galwydel. See 600 and 700 AD maps here?

I'm convinced Little, as a surname, referred to a type of people initially, and then to their geographic region (or visa versa). Many men would have been proud to be referred to as Gaels instead of Anglo Saxon (German) who swarmed Britain after the Romans left. Galgadael may have initially referred to vikings (foreign) who spoke Gaelic, but the key point here is that they spoke Gaelic, and after a few generations of assimilating into the Scottish culture, and marrying full-blooded Scots, they thought of themselves as Scotsmen -- with some long forgotten foreign blood in them (so they thought). The male Gaels simply outbred the vikings (foreigners) and so the "ga" is dropped and you're left with Lwydel instead of Galwyddel, which eventually, through English influence, became Little. The English couldn't pronounce the Scottish names very good, and often changed the sound, and therefore the spelling, to something that looked and sounded completely different.

I haven't checked the internet recently about the origins of the Little surname but it sure would be nice to see it there as I've described it above.? Sure, I understand differentiating between an older brother and younger brother as "big" brother and "little" brother, and also differentiating between the father and son who often shared the same first name, as Senior and Little respectively, but it makes no sense to me that these sort of references would morph into a surname. Even such sarcastic references as "Little John, or John Little", in reference to size, don't have a believable lasting quality to them. But a surname that associates a person with a well known distinctive (Gaelic) group of people, who wanted their legacy to endure forever, is much more believable than all the other alternatives -- especially if one is very familiar with the Scottish culture that has been ruled by the English for many centuries, and heavily influenced by them for many more centuries.

?Best Regards,

Daryl Martin

Most likely a McLean from way back

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