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Question Re: [R1b-CTS4466-Plus] R1b-CTS4466+ BAM Tracker Re: Request for BAM Files for Realignment and Joint Genotyping


 

Free BAM?

Hi James,

I do not see my kit 539013 Frank Cashman on the excel file you provided. I have granted you advanced access.? I'm not sure whether or not I'm due a free BAM.

Let me know how?I can help?

Thanks,

Barb Francis


On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 8:20?AM James Kane via <jkane=[email protected]> wrote:
I have created a Google Sheet to track this effort.? You can check the status of a Big Y kit in the R1b-CTS4466+ Project, if you are due a free BAM from FTDNA, and if I have a copy analyzed already.

The "Archive Prefix" column indicates I have retrieved a fresh BAM copy since 2024-11-26.
?
The "BAM(s) Analyzed" are the tests I already have/had processed for this effort.



As always let me know if there are questions or concerns.

Thanks,
?
James


 

On Nov 30, 2024, at 6:09?PM, barb francis via groups.io <barbf863@...> wrote:

Free BAM?
In hind site it’s poor terminology but I’m trying to make it very clear that you should not purchase anything that you don’t already own for this purpose. The original Big Y and Big Y 500 included the BAM free of charge. Big Y 700 removed it in order to hit a lower price point. My firm opinion is that no-one should purchase these BAMs as they are part of the process that FTDNA needs to create to deliver results in the first place. It should be free and we need to make that clear.

This is indeed the case with your kit. Everyone that has a "Download VCF” option I am grabbing that if it’s not already been contributed to the YDNA Warehouse. The plan is to use a more manual process to work these kits into my experimental tree after completing this endeavor. I would estimate that will happen in early 2025 to give me a couple months to complete this phase.

Thanks,

James


 

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Hello James,

My kit # is 202339 (Caldwell). ?The Group Administrator is listed as Gail Ridell and I couldn’t see any way to add your name but updated the access from Limited to Advanced. ?Hope that is correct but please let me know if it isn’t.

Thank you

Patricia Hocker

On Nov 30, 2024, at 4:24?PM, James Kane via groups.io <jkane@...> wrote:

On Nov 30, 2024, at 6:09?PM, barb francis via groups.io <barbf863@...> wrote:

Free BAM?
In hind site it’s poor terminology but I’m trying to make it very clear that you should not purchase anything that you don’t already own for this purpose. The original Big Y and Big Y 500 included the BAM free of charge. Big Y 700 removed it in order to hit a lower price point. My firm opinion is that no-one should purchase these BAMs as they are part of the process that FTDNA needs to create to deliver results in the first place. It should be free and we need to make that clear.

This is indeed the case with your kit. Everyone that has a "Download VCF” option I am grabbing that if it’s not already been contributed to the YDNA Warehouse. The plan is to use a more manual process to work these kits into my experimental tree after completing this endeavor. I would estimate that will happen in early 2025 to give me a couple months to complete this phase.

Thanks,

James


 

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On Dec 2, 2024, at 8:41?AM, Pat Hocker via groups.io <pat.hocker@...> wrote:

Hello James,

My kit # is 202339 (Caldwell). ?The Group Administrator is listed as Gail Ridell and I couldn’t see any way to add your name but updated the access from Limited to Advanced. ?Hope that is correct but please let me know if it isn’t.

Thank you

Patricia Hocker

Hi Patricia,

I don’t see 202339 in the?R1b-CTS4466 Plus member list, and it’s not in my outside of the project files currently. ?If your kit is CTS4466+, we’d love for you to join us.


Once the kit is added, you would be able to set the preferences as requested. ?It sounds like you gave Gail elevated permissions though. ?You may want to change those back. ?Typically, there’s no harm but everyone has different levels of sensitivity about their data.

Thanks,

James


 

Hello James,
This is James E Ferguson, II Kit 257329.
Do you have access to testing information I have obtained? I think I've done the Y-500 and Y-700.
Thanks for letting me know.
If there is a different person I should communicate with, please let me know that as well.
With best wishes,
JEF

On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 7:24?PM James Kane via <jkane=[email protected]> wrote:
On Nov 30, 2024, at 6:09?PM, barb francis via <barbf863=[email protected]> wrote:

Free BAM?
In hind site it’s poor terminology but I’m trying to make it very clear that you should not purchase anything that you don’t already own for this purpose. The original Big Y and Big Y 500 included the BAM free of charge. Big Y 700 removed it in order to hit a lower price point. My firm opinion is that no-one should purchase these BAMs as they are part of the process that FTDNA needs to create to deliver results in the first place. It should be free and we need to make that clear.

This is indeed the case with your kit. Everyone that has a "Download VCF” option I am grabbing that if it’s not already been contributed to the YDNA Warehouse. The plan is to use a more manual process to work these kits into my experimental tree after completing this endeavor. I would estimate that will happen in early 2025 to give me a couple months to complete this phase.

Thanks,

James


 

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On Dec 12, 2024, at 8:50?AM, James Ferguson via groups.io <ferguson.jef@...> wrote:

257329

I have the Big Y 500 BAM, but if you have upgraded to 700 you are eligible to get that test’s BAM as well as it’s included in the upgrade.

So please either send me a link via private message or change your account settings so I can retrieve the file.

Thanks,

James


 

Hello James,
Not sure I did this correctly but I went to settings and added you as a "kit manager".
Will that do the trick? It appears my &-700 was part of batch 1101.
Best, JEF

On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 10:36?AM James Kane via <jkane=[email protected]> wrote:


On Dec 12, 2024, at 8:50?AM, James Ferguson via <ferguson.jef=[email protected]> wrote:

257329

I have the Big Y 500 BAM, but if you have upgraded to 700 you are eligible to get that test’s BAM as well as it’s included in the upgrade.

So please either send me a link via private message or change your account settings so I can retrieve the file.

Thanks,

James


 

Hello James,
Could you please confirm if I was successful in changing my account setting so you have access and whether you have the 700 results for me?
Many thanks, JEF

On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 12:51?PM James Ferguson via <ferguson.jef=[email protected]> wrote:
Hello James,
Not sure I did this correctly but I went to settings and added you as a "kit manager".
Will that do the trick? It appears my &-700 was part of batch 1101.
Best, JEF

On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 10:36?AM James Kane via <jkane=[email protected]> wrote:


On Dec 12, 2024, at 8:50?AM, James Ferguson via <ferguson.jef=[email protected]> wrote:

257329

I have the Big Y 500 BAM, but if you have upgraded to 700 you are eligible to get that test’s BAM as well as it’s included in the upgrade.

So please either send me a link via private message or change your account settings so I can retrieve the file.

Thanks,

James


 

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On Dec 20, 2024, at 3:14?PM, James Ferguson via groups.io <ferguson.jef@...> wrote:

Hello James,
Could you please confirm if I was successful in changing my account setting so you have access and whether you have the 700 results for me?

No, the setting is still limited. ?You can just send me a link via direct email not to the group as a hole since the list is indexed on things like Google search. ?The links do expire but there’s a 24 hour period anyone could download it.

This old blog is generally still relevant. ?They moved things slightly and you just push a button to request the BAM if it doesn’t exist already.


Thanks,

James



 

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You can also watch this 20 second clip from a screencast I made for the Warehouse for how to get the links.



James

On Dec 20, 2024, at 3:28?PM, James Kane via groups.io <jkane@...> wrote:



On Dec 20, 2024, at 3:14?PM, James Ferguson via groups.io <ferguson.jef@...> wrote:

Hello James,
Could you please confirm if I was successful in changing my account setting so you have access and whether you have the 700 results for me?

No, the setting is still limited. ?You can just send me a link via direct email not to the group as a hole since the list is indexed on things like Google search. ?The links do expire but there’s a 24 hour period anyone could download it.

This old blog is generally still relevant. ?They moved things slightly and you just push a button to request the BAM if it doesn’t exist already.


Thanks,

James




 

Hey James-
I found the page with “ limited and advanced”.
I changed you all to advanced.
I didn’t accept my heritage as I don’t know if I should or not.
Best

On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 4:54?PM James Kane via <jkane=[email protected]> wrote:
You can also watch this 20 second clip from a screencast I made for the Warehouse for how to get the links.



James

On Dec 20, 2024, at 3:28?PM, James Kane via <jkane=[email protected]> wrote:



On Dec 20, 2024, at 3:14?PM, James Ferguson via <ferguson.jef=[email protected]> wrote:

Hello James,
Could you please confirm if I was successful in changing my account setting so you have access and whether you have the 700 results for me?

No, the setting is still limited.? You can just send me a link via direct email not to the group as a hole since the list is indexed on things like Google search.? The links do expire but there’s a 24 hour period anyone could download it.

This old blog is generally still relevant.? They moved things slightly and you just push a button to request the BAM if it doesn’t exist already.


Thanks,

James




 

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I have the BAM for the upgrade now. ?It will be merged in with your old BY500, that I already have.

Thanks,

James

On Dec 21, 2024, at 1:34?PM, James Ferguson via groups.io <ferguson.jef@...> wrote:

Hey James-
I found the page with “ limited and advanced”.
I changed you all to advanced.
I didn’t accept my heritage as I don’t know if I should or not.
Best


 

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James, I gave you access to kit 162959, please let me know if you need anything further.

Steve

On Dec 20, 2024, at 16:15, James Ferguson via groups.io <ferguson.jef@...> wrote:

?
Hello James,
Could you please confirm if I was successful in changing my account setting so you have access and whether you have the 700 results for me?
Many thanks, JEF

On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 12:51?PM James Ferguson via <ferguson.jef=[email protected]> wrote:
Hello James,
Not sure I did this correctly but I went to settings and added you as a "kit manager".
Will that do the trick? It appears my &-700 was part of batch 1101.
Best, JEF

On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 10:36?AM James Kane via <jkane=[email protected]> wrote:


On Dec 12, 2024, at 8:50?AM, James Ferguson via <ferguson.jef=[email protected]> wrote:

257329

I have the Big Y 500 BAM, but if you have upgraded to 700 you are eligible to get that test’s BAM as well as it’s included in the upgrade.

So please either send me a link via private message or change your account settings so I can retrieve the file.

Thanks,

James