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Re: September 2022 update of Irish Type II Tree and its associated Mutation Block Age Table
Thanks Nigel! I want to go in and map on the historical data we have for the BY2880 branch to get a better picture. Seems pretty clear BY3531 is the O'Donoghue of the Glens line.? On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 7:53 AM john brazil <johnkbrazil@...> wrote:
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Re: September 2022 update of Irish Type II Tree and its associated Mutation Block Age Table
Many thanks again Nigel. John.? On Fri 30 Sep 2022, 13:36 Nigel McCarthy, <ndmccarthy10@...> wrote: I have just published an update of my Irish Type II tree and its associated Mutation Block Age Table. As usual, these will be found on the McCarthy Surname Study Scrapbook site at .? (Please do not attempt to join this study though, unless you are a male McCarthy). |
September 2022 update of Irish Type II Tree and its associated Mutation Block Age Table
I have just published an update of my Irish Type II tree and its associated Mutation Block Age Table. As usual, these will be found on the McCarthy Surname Study Scrapbook site at .? (Please do not attempt to join this study though, unless you are a male McCarthy).
The number of Big Y-700 tests contributing to the age computation now stands at 430. With respect to the previous (27 August) issue, the following sheets ONLY have been updated in this 30 September issue: Sheet 9 (Z16259: Donovan and Regan) Sheets 10-11 (A151) Sheet 13 (L270 Sullivan, sheet 2 of 2) Sheet 15 (FGC17180 O'Donoghue and A2224) Sheet 21 (A664) Kind regards = Nigel McCarthy |
Re: Irish Type II Tree
开云体育Hi Nigel ? You might be interested in the date 1838 – date of common ancestor of Peter Ryan and I. ? I was communicating with Paul O’Donnell who said I should give you the date of my common ancestor with Peter Ryan. ? Common Ancestor John Ryan b1838 Yass NSW ? ? His father just for interest was Patrick Ryan b1811 (married in Kilrush Clare) and his father Timothy Ryan b Timothy b1778 (presumably Kilrush). ? So 1778 is about the right age for us to branch off from John Ready. Plus or minus 150 years. ? Patrich Ryan leased land at Moyodda Beg ?just outside Kilrush – We believe he leased land there in 1826 – although only 14 years old – as it was nearby to his future wifes family and father in law as well. ? This is John Ryan in Warrnambool. ?
On another topic ? I am trying to go up the learning curve on all this Big Y stuff. ? As my Big Y and Peter Ryan’s FTDNA upgrade to Big Y are recent I believe I need to pay the $100 for the Y700 BAM file if we wish to go on to James Warehouse. ? Matt Ryan B475646? Peter Ryan 535083 ? Matt Ryan ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Nigel McCarthy
Sent: Sunday, 28 August 2022 3:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [R1b-CTS4466-Plus] Irish Type II Tree and its associated Mutation Block Age Table ? Having now analysed 400 sets of Irish Type II Big Y-700 data,? I have updated the above at My FTDNA kit no. is [XXXXX]. I am happy for Nigel McCarthy's publicly displayed Irish Type II tree to show all relevant information extracted from my Big Y test(s) and/or any other Y-DNA testing I pursue (whatever the sources of the information) alongside my kit number and most distant known paternal ancestor (MDKA) surname. If I have not made my paternal ancestor surname available, I understand that my present surname will be shown unless its omission is explicitly requested. ? OR ? The FTDNA kit I manage is [XXXXX]. I have explicit agreement with the supplier of the test that Nigel McCarthy's publicly displayed Irish Type II tree may show all relevant information extracted from his Big Y test(s) and/or any other YDNA testing pursued (whatever the sources of the information) alongside his kit number and most distant known paternal ancestor (MDKA) surname. If he has not made his paternal ancestor surname available, I understand that his present surname will be shown unless its omission is explicitly requested.?I acknowledge that ‘explicit agreement’ may be or have been verbal for an immediate family member, or where a kit manager manages the kit supplied by a deceased direct paternal ancestor or brother or son, or has been named as the beneficiary on the Account Settings > Account Information > Beneficiary page of the FTDNA account. In all other cases written permission to use the account as the kit manager finds fit, or similar, must be held.
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Re: R1b-CTS4466-Plus, R-BY69974.
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? Kind regards = Nigel McCarthy ? ? ? ? Sent from for Windows ? From: jready8102@... via groups.io
Sent: 06 September 2022 16:53 To: [email protected] Subject: [R1b-CTS4466-Plus] R1b-CTS4466-Plus, R-BY69974. ? James ? I have followed the group’s messages for several years, read Nigel’s Paper, Elizabeth’s Paper and studied Nigel’s Tree and Block Tree. I think I have a very good understanding of my distant past.? I have two matches, Matt Ryan, FTA4098 and Peter Ryan, FTA42485. We are on Page 17 of Nigel’s Tree. Patrick Reidy born 1795 in Castleisland is the last ancestor I can document. I came across an item in the Casey Collection, Volume 6 which traces the origins of O’Reidy to Ua Riada, Chief of Aradh in 1129. I also found several references to Ua Riada in the Annals For Munster where he is mentioned as the King of Aradh in 1129. Of specific interest was the theft of Ua Riada’s gold drinking horn from the High Altar of the Great Church of Cluin-Mic-Nois in 1129. I split off A726 around 803 AD, DYS 449?around 851 AD, DYS446?around 906 AD and the first mutation of my block around 960 AD with a MRCA about 1122 AD. Given that my family name is Reidy and Nigel’s Tree dates coincide with my mutation dates, is it a reasonable possibility that there is a connection between myself and Ua Riada? I look forward to hearing your thoughts about this. ? ? John C Ready Jr ? ? ? ? |
R1b-CTS4466-Plus, R-BY69974.
James
I have followed the group’s messages for several years, read Nigel’s Paper, Elizabeth’s Paper and studied Nigel’s Tree and Block Tree. I think I have a very good understanding of my distant past.?
I have two matches, Matt Ryan, FTA4098 and Peter Ryan, FTA42485. We are on Page 17 of Nigel’s Tree. Patrick Reidy born 1795 in Castleisland is the last ancestor I can document. I came across an item in the Casey Collection, Volume 6 which traces the origins of O’Reidy to Ua Riada, Chief of Aradh in 1129. I also found several references to Ua Riada in the Annals For Munster where he is mentioned as the King of Aradh in 1129. Of specific interest was the theft of Ua Riada’s gold drinking horn from the High Altar of the Great Church of Cluin-Mic-Nois in 1129. I split off A726 around 803 AD, DYS 449?around 851 AD, DYS446?around 906 AD and the first mutation of my block around 960 AD with a MRCA about 1122 AD. Given that my family name is Reidy and Nigel’s Tree dates coincide with my mutation dates, is it a reasonable possibility that there is a connection between myself and Ua Riada? I look forward to hearing your thoughts about this. John C Ready Jr |
Re: YDNA Warehouse STR Uploads and Updates
开云体育Marcia, ? The BAM file is the BigY raw data file. Originally access to it came with the purchase of the BigY, but as only relatively few people requested the file and the provision of the file was not simple for FTDNA, FTDNA separated the BAM from their BigY product maybe 3 or 4 years ago. You do not have the Raw Data Product (BAM File) listed in your product history, so if you wanted it then you would have to purchase it from FTDNA. ? Regards Paul O’D ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Matteo Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2022 8:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [R1b-CTS4466-Plus] YDNA Warehouse STR Uploads and Updates ? Hi Marcia, are you from Sydney, NSW? Cheers. Matt
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Re: YDNA Warehouse STR Uploads and Updates
Hi Marcia, are you from Sydney, NSW? Cheers. Matt
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Gidday from Australia On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 8:31 AM Jackie Donavan Padesky via <jackiepadesky=[email protected]> wrote: Hello everyone, I wanted to take the opportunity to introduce myself! |
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Hello everyone, I wanted to take the opportunity to introduce myself!
My name is Jackie, and I'm the manager of my brother's DNA (Sean Donavan).? We're from Illinois, USA. Sean's haplogroup is R-A2294, which was interesting to see as we've always thought we were of Scots-Irish descent.?? Our oldest known paternal line ancestor was Robert Donavan. Robert was born 11 Jun 1744 in Ireland.? He died 26 Nov 1823 in Lurgan Township, Franklin County, Pennsylvania, USA. Robert immigrated with his brother, John, to the USA from Warrenpoint, County Down, Ireland 15 Jul 1763 and arrived in New Castle 10 Oct 1763. They left two siblings: a sister (Jane Donavan Wilkinson) and a brother, William Donavan, in Ireland. I'm very eager to explore the Y-DNA connections and learn more about how our Donavans may have ended up in Ulster despite our early roots pointing to Munster. Thanks for having me! -Jackie |
The Archaeology of Cashel of the Kings
Hi guys, Some of you might be interested in this podcast? Ranging from the early medieval period to the Anglo Normans, comparing Cashel with other royal sites in Ireland and Scotland.? Some other podcasts on this site may be of interest also? To put some context to the dates identified by Nigel?? John.? |
Re: Irish Type II Tree and its associated Mutation Block Age Table
开云体育Tom, ? I’ll be happy to apply it.? I have focused on Big Y-700 as I need this to provide the input to the Mutation Block Age Table, but always good to be able to maximise analysis and display of information whether BY-500 or 700. ? Nigel ? Sent from for Windows ? From: Thomas Mahoney
Sent: 28 August 2022 10:08 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [R1b-CTS4466-Plus] Irish Type II Tree and its associated Mutation Block Age Table ? Nigel, does this also apply to my Y-500 results? Tom Mahoney?
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Re: Irish Type II Tree and its associated Mutation Block Age Table
开云体育Nigel, does this also apply to my Y-500 results?Tom Mahoney? On Aug 27, 2022, at 12:26 PM, Nigel McCarthy <ndmccarthy10@...> wrote:
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Irish Type II Tree and its associated Mutation Block Age Table
Having now analysed 400 sets of Irish Type II Big Y-700 data,? I have updated the above at
I am aware of a further about 50 results sets published since Big Y-700 was introduced which are yet to be fully analysed. Many of these kits are on the tree, though, and most will be correctly placed. I hope to work through these by the end of the year.? In the meantime, if you ensure you have followed James's instructions for depositing results in the Y-DNA Warehouse you will likewise in due course be added to his own "Experimental tree".? With its Big Y-700 investigations, FTDNA attempts to extract data for 727 STR mutations in addition to the 111 of its Y-DNA111 test. It does not make this publicly available. For me to determine further mutations specific to your kit among these 727 loci, and present them on my Irish Type II tree on a 'third party site', I consequently require your explicit authorisation. Many of you have already provided me with this.? Where this is the case (and I have looked at your Big Y-700 data), the number of STR markers analysed will show (just above your ancestral or present surname and kit number) as: 838 (-n1) 561 (-n2) where n1 and n2 are the number of Panel 6 and Panels 6 + 7 no calls respectively. Where you have NOT authorised me, they will simply show as 111 (or 67 or 37). To provide authorisation please e-mail me directly (i.e. not to the group), at ndmccarthy10 AT gmail.com, one or other of the following messages,as appropriate: My FTDNA kit no. is [XXXXX]. I am happy for Nigel McCarthy's publicly displayed Irish Type II tree to show all relevant information extracted from my Big Y test(s) and/or any other Y-DNA testing I pursue (whatever the sources of the information) alongside my kit number and most distant known paternal ancestor (MDKA) surname. If I have not made my paternal ancestor surname available, I understand that my present surname will be shown unless its omission is explicitly requested. ? OR ? The FTDNA kit I manage is [XXXXX]. I have explicit agreement with the supplier of the test that Nigel McCarthy's publicly displayed Irish Type II tree may show all relevant information extracted from his Big Y test(s) and/or any other YDNA testing pursued (whatever the sources of the information) alongside his kit number and most distant known paternal ancestor (MDKA) surname. If he has not made his paternal ancestor surname available, I understand that his present surname will be shown unless its omission is explicitly requested.?I acknowledge that ‘explicit agreement’ may be or have been verbal for an immediate family member, or where a kit manager manages the kit supplied by a deceased direct paternal ancestor or brother or son, or has been named as the beneficiary on the Account Settings > Account Information > Beneficiary page of the FTDNA account. In all other cases written permission to use the account as the kit manager finds fit, or similar, must be held. Obviously you substitute the kit number for XXXXX ! Kind regards = Nigel McCarthy |
Re: New CTS4466 STR Comparison Report
开云体育If you take the ‘FTDNA111 to YSeq116’ extension please also join YSeq Group 71, where there are 6 such FGC11134 / CTS4466 testers. As James says, not enough to survey the usefulness though a first guess of the ancestral haplotype at the time of DF13 could be made, and a few more may make it all worthwhile for later stages of the tree. ? The 14 STRs investigated are listed in the bottom right corner of the large block near the top of sheet 2 of my Irish Type II tree. See also Legend item (b) on sheet 1 of the tree. ? Nigel ? Sent from for Windows ? From: James Kane
Sent: 10 August 2022 17:27 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [R1b-CTS4466-Plus] New CTS4466 STR Comparison Report ? These are a product from YSEQ and included for completeness. ?You shouldn’t feel compelled to order it, since I don’t think we ever got enough testers to survey the usefulness. ? The are available here though. ? ? The results are collected by adding a YSEQ STR & SNP Panel to the test Subject after joining group 4. ? ? The warehouse polls the project every two weeks for new data. ? ? ? James ? |
Re: New CTS4466 STR Comparison Report
开云体育These are a product from YSEQ and included for completeness. ?You shouldn’t feel compelled to order it, since I don’t think we ever got enough testers to survey the usefulness.The are available here though. The results are collected by adding a YSEQ STR & SNP Panel to the test Subject after joining group 4. The warehouse polls the project every two weeks for new data. James |