On Apr 5, 2024, at 4:29?AM, Paul O'Donnell via groups.io <absentplodder@...> wrote:

David,

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Mark Anthony Ring is from a different branch of Ring.

The common ancestor was a man with R-FGC29280 as his terminal SNP sometime maybe just after 650CE.

There are a lot of men here more closely related to you than him.

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Paul O’Donnell

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From:?R1b-CTS4466-Plus@groups.io?<R1b-CTS4466-Plus@groups.io>?On Behalf Of?D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
Sent:?Friday, 5 April 2024 3:34 AM
To:?R1b-CTS4466-Plus@groups.io
Subject:?Re: [R1b-CTS4466-Plus] Y500 With Zero People with Father's or Mother's Maiden Last Name

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Lucas,

I feel like I am in a room where others are making sense of what I cannot.

I don't understand:

That's standard if you haven't recruited any Y DNA matches with your
surname to go Big Y testing. It just means that your branch is from
the pre-surname period (whuv you can confirm by using the Discover
report at FT DNA).

Mark Anthony Ring
FAMILY FINDER
MTFULL SEQUENCE
BIG Y-700
Y-DNA111

Markers Tested
1 to 700
Genetic Distance
6 steps
Link on Family Tree

Big Y STR Differences
18 of 685
Y Haplogroup
R-FT270724
Paternal Country of Origin
Ireland
Paternal Earliest Known Ancestor
John Joseph Ring 1829


Thanks,
David



On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 11:46?AM Lucas McCaw <lucasmccaw@...> wrote:

David,

That's standard if you haven't recruited any Y DNA matches with your surname to go Big Y testing. It just means that your branch is from the pre-surname period (whuv you can confirm by using the Discover report at FT DNA).

Another way to create surname level branching is to use traditional genealogy to identify males who should be related to you as per documentation. Have them do a Y37 test to confirm they match then upgrade to Big Y.