Hello All,

I'm in the process?of buying?a house in QC, and the antenna in question would be a huge part of the deal so I can install my shack.?

I currently live in Gilbert and CC&R from my HOA (City Property) prohibits the installation of any Ham radio antennas, which I'm bypassing by hiding them in a flag pole, (Which can't be higher than the tallest structure approved in my house) and behind walls so they are not visible from the outside. Unfortunately, I'm not able to reach anywhere on VHF/UHF, and my listening test in HF was also really poor since I can't put my dipole high enough

All your comments have been extremely helpful, Joe taught me there's an ordinance from Queen Creek, unfortunately,?due to the family being sick I haven't been able to follow up but I will.?

I really appreciate all the comments, and for sure I will compile all the info and share my experience once the deal is done so we can learn together if there's anything else to share,

Thanks again,

73

Vince - W7HMO

On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 5:01?PM Doug Pelley WB7TUJ via <wb7tuj=[email protected]> wrote:

Here’s a trick that has been used around the country and has had quite a bit of success from what I’ve heard. It only pertains to VHF / UHF FM.

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Install a dual band antenna such as an X50, X300 etc. And for honesty, only use it only in the FM mode, no AM, or anything digital like DMR, Fusion, etc.

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When the Gestapo comes to your door enquiring what you have, you tell them “It’s for FM radio” and say nothing else. You’re being completely 100% honest saying that as long as you’re only using the FM mode.

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Should they question it, have a Channel Mastr or other brand name FM broadcast antenna catalog handy and show them the largest / ugliest FM antenna in the catalog and say to them, “Well…. I could take it down and replace it with this”.?

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From what I’m told, they usually walk away with that.

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Good luck ?

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Doug WB7TUJ

Outlook LT

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of B H Hansen via
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2024 16:39
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [QueenCreekHams] Local Ham Needs some Assistance with Info

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Pleas let me add one thing to the antenna question.? I’m sure there are a lot of members on this thread that are aware of the American Communications Act.? I think the last update was 1992. Please excuse me if I’m wrong. It is my limited knowledge of the act than HOA’s cannot prohibit amateur radio antennas.? I know they can have rules…. I think this was a landmark case back in the 90’s when Dish and Direct satellite dishes were just becoming popular.? I think in this case the HOA couldn’t prohibit satellite dishes. It ?is my understanding that this was the beginning of HOA’s being sued for various HOA violations. I also know there are Law Offices that take on HOA cases that address the installing antennas. I agree on FAA rules and regulations…. But there may be ways to erect certain antennas that an HOA cannot prohibit.?

Respectfully,

Bill Hansen

N1AST

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On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 16:15 Doug Pelley WB7TUJ via <wb7tuj=[email protected]> wrote:

If you live within an ATA (Airport Traffic Area) which is within a 5 statue mile radius of the center of the field (airport), you must notify the FAA prior to erecting a tower if it will be higher than the tallest roof, tree, etc.? Depending on twr height, distance from rwy end & other variables, you may or may not be permitted to erect it. And if permitted to erect it, you may be required to paint or light it. And if short enough and other variables you may not have to do anything other than erect it to the specs you provided to the FAA.

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Doug WB7TUJ

Outlook LT

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ron Lampe via
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2024 07:54
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [QueenCreekHams] Local Ham Needs some Assistance with Info

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Vince, First I would look into FAA regulations on tower height if on the Pegasus airport flight path.? (I don't expect a problem with a 25 foot tower but if its 100 feet tall a mike from the runway, i think that's a problem
Second, where I live in San Tan Valley you are not permitted to have a visible antenna, even flag poles are regulated.
I believe all HOAs(wgere you pay a monthly resudent fee) have antenna restrictions.
Last, if all is good, tower sntennas, as you can imagine need a poured concrete base and it is proportional to heught and tower style.? The mfg. of antenna should have base of antenna support plans.
Goid Luck,
RoN WD6CIM AE

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On Wed, Dec 18, 2024, 12:12 PM Joe Sammartino via <jsammartino=[email protected]> wrote:

A local ham has a request for assistance...If you can help, reach out to him directly at "vince AT KN6TZA.org:

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Hello,

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I'm in the process of buying property in Queen Creek. Installing my ham radio tower would be part of the deal, which is one of the main reasons I want to get a more considerable lot for personal use.

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I've been trying to get some help from development services in both the city of Queen Creek and Pinal County, with limited results.

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I was wondering if somebody in your radio club has experience with this, so I can get a pointer in the right direction.

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I'd really appreciate it.

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Thank you
Vince Lopez
W7HMO
vince@...