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Yesterday I bought a 2015 MACbook for running QTR, Epson print driver, QCDN V3, and SpyderPrint. The laptop is running OS 13 (Mojave) and cost me $100 with charger. ?I am hoping this small investment will save me the wasted time and frustration caused by Apple updates and incompatibility issues. I will do all of the QTR curve creation functions on the MacBook, and I will process image files on my Mac Studio and transfer the files to the MacBook via file transfer for printing.
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A good idea. What I am wondering is whether a 2015 MacBook will run Richard Boutwell's QTR Pro version. If I am correct, a 2019 version is required there. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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I am looking to do the same thing. I bought an 2020 M1 Mac Mini in hopes it came with an earlier MacOS, but they shipped it with Sequoia. ?I might try to install an earlier version myself. Has anyone tried this? The MacMini is new so I don’t need to back anything up. ?
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On Jan 29, 2025, at 7:46 AM, Gerard Smeets via groups.io <smeetsgm@...> wrote:
A good idea. What I am wondering is whether a 2015 MacBook will run Richard Boutwell's QTR Pro version. If I am correct, a 2019 version is required there. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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I’m also curious in everyone’s experience which MacOS they have had the best luck with QTR, QCDN, PrintTool, and Epson 3880. ?TIA!
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On Jan 29, 2025, at 7:46 AM, Gerard Smeets via groups.io <smeetsgm@...> wrote:
A good idea. What I am wondering is whether a 2015 MacBook will run Richard Boutwell's QTR Pro version. If I am correct, a 2019 version is required there. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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You will only be able to install an earlier version of the software that matches the year the hardware was made. Probably will be Big Sur for the 2020 M1.
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On Jan 29, 2025, at 4:04?PM, jess g via groups.io <jessgreaux@...> wrote:
I am looking to do the same thing. I bought an 2020 M1 Mac Mini in hopes it came with an earlier MacOS, but they shipped it with Sequoia. ?I might try to install an earlier version myself. Has anyone tried this? The MacMini is new so I don’t need to back anything up. ?
On Jan 29, 2025, at 7:46 AM, Gerard Smeets via groups.io <smeetsgm@...> wrote:
A good idea. What I am wondering is whether a 2015 MacBook will run Richard Boutwell's QTR Pro version. If I am correct, a 2019 version is required there. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Much appreciated Clay. ?(And see you in NC in Feb for your photogravure workshop.)?
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On Jan 29, 2025, at 1:16 PM, Clay Harmon via groups.io <w.clay.harmon@...> wrote:
You will only be able to install an earlier version of the software that matches the year the hardware was made. Probably will be Big Sur for the 2020 M1.
Clay On Jan 29, 2025, at 4:04?PM, jess g via groups.io <jessgreaux@...> wrote:
I am looking to do the same thing. I bought an 2020 M1 Mac Mini in hopes it came with an earlier MacOS, but they shipped it with Sequoia. ?I might try to install an earlier version myself. Has anyone tried this? The MacMini is new so I don’t need to back anything up. ?
On Jan 29, 2025, at 7:46 AM, Gerard Smeets via groups.io <smeetsgm@...> wrote:
A good idea. What I am wondering is whether a 2015 MacBook will run Richard Boutwell's QTR Pro version. If I am correct, a 2019 version is required there. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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On Jan 29, 2025, at 4:41?PM, jess g via groups.io <jessgreaux@...> wrote:
Much appreciated Clay. ?(And see you in NC in Feb for your photogravure workshop.)?
Jess On Jan 29, 2025, at 1:16 PM, Clay Harmon via groups.io <w.clay.harmon@...> wrote:
You will only be able to install an earlier version of the software that matches the year the hardware was made. Probably will be Big Sur for the 2020 M1.
Clay On Jan 29, 2025, at 4:04?PM, jess g via groups.io <jessgreaux@...> wrote:
I am looking to do the same thing. I bought an 2020 M1 Mac Mini in hopes it came with an earlier MacOS, but they shipped it with Sequoia. ?I might try to install an earlier version myself. Has anyone tried this? The MacMini is new so I don’t need to back anything up. ?
On Jan 29, 2025, at 7:46 AM, Gerard Smeets via groups.io <smeetsgm@...> wrote:
A good idea. What I am wondering is whether a 2015 MacBook will run Richard Boutwell's QTR Pro version. If I am correct, a 2019 version is required there. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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The Apple Preset problems began in Ventura OS so you definitely want something before that.
So for Apple Chip computers I'd go to Monterey OS 12.7.6 -- that's what I use on a Studio M1 (2022) machine.
For Intel machines you probably can go there too.
But Mojave OS 10.14.6 is what I stopped at for Intel - MacBook Pro (2019).
You still get to run 32-bit programs which may be useful.
Print-Tool and QTR should run fine on any of these.
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It would help to know what problems you are trying to overcome. I ask because I've been using Mac Studios since they came out. I'm on OS 15.3. The only issue so far is Apple's screw-up saving presets, but that's just an inconvenience as far as I'm concerned. I print using PrintTool, Piezography and color inks with a 3880 and a P6000.
With the exception of the one caveat I mentioned, everything is working just fine. Boutwell's software and the i1Pro 3 spectrophotometer are also working without issues, FWIW.
HTH if I can.
Tracy
ItsThePrint.com
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I wasn’t able to make any prints from photoshop and Print Tool on an Epson 3880 without the print settings defaulting when I hit print. I learned about a work around where I can save a preset in Preview (opening any random document) and save it there then I can open a photo in Photoshop and print using the preset. Very strange way around it, but it worked.
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On Jan 29, 2025, at 5:59 PM, Tracy Valleau via groups.io <tracy@...> wrote:
It would help to know what problems you are trying to overcome. I ask because I've been using Mac Studios since they came out. I'm on OS 15.3. The only issue so far is Apple's screw-up saving presets, but that's just an inconvenience as far as I'm concerned. I print using PrintTool, Piezography and color inks with a 3880 and a P6000.
With the exception of the one caveat I mentioned, everything is working just fine. Boutwell's software and the i1Pro 3 spectrophotometer are also working without issues, FWIW.
HTH if I can.
Tracy
ItsThePrint.com
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Thanks Roy- very helpful!
Jess
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On Jan 29, 2025, at 5:42 PM, Roy Harrington via groups.io <roy@...> wrote:
The Apple Preset problems began in Ventura OS so you definitely want something before that.
So for Apple Chip computers I'd go to Monterey OS 12.7.6 -- that's what I use on a Studio M1 (2022) machine.
For Intel machines you probably can go there too.
But Mojave OS 10.14.6 is what I stopped at for Intel - MacBook Pro (2019).
You still get to run 32-bit programs which may be useful.
Print-Tool and QTR should run fine on any of these.
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I spent most of yesterday setting up the new (old) MacBook running Mojave. I installed QTR, QCDN V3, SpyderPrint and the Epson drivers. Most of the time was on chat or the phone to Apple trying to get file sharing to work. Eventually I found the right Apple support tech and he breezed right through the setup no problem. ?The last piece seems to be the Epson print setup. ?I tried printing a plate and the driver doesn’t want to let me print using the front poster board feed. With the settings set for Front Feed it still refuses the media and causes a print error. I will try calling Epson today and see if they can help.
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For the past year it seems that every time I try to print digital negatives or a gravure plate I have to spend several hours resolving some issue created by an update to the print driver or Apple OS. MY “hope” is that by running a separate system for all my QTR, QCDN, and Print Tool functions I can avoid those issues. The preset issues are annoying but I can deal with that. It is the constant updates that have had me considering giving up the whole “hybrid workflow” at times. If this doesn’t work out I am only out $100 for the MacBook.
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I am running the new simpler V3, but I will let you know if I have issues.
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Larry- I have an Epson p900 and have the same issue with the front poster board feed so please share your advice from Epson if you will. Thanks. Cheryl Hanna-Truscott www.HannaTruscott.com
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On Jan 30, 2025, at 06:49, Larry Huhn via groups.io <lehuhn@...> wrote:
? I am running the new simpler V3, but I will let you know if I have issues.
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I called Epson Support which didnt yield any results, but while I was waiting for them to gt back to me I uninstalled and reinstalled the Epson driver for OS 10.14 a couple of times and it now works great. ?It even saves the presets. I haven't used QCDN V3 yet, but I am confident that it will work and my SpyderPrint as well. It is an extra step when I want to print, but I feel that this is going to save me a lot of time and frustration in the long run.
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I'm not sure why there are troubles with the "front poster board" feed.
But on the P900 it's very important that the feeds and the exact paper size agree
on both the printer panel and in the driver software. QTR has the feed in the QuadToneRIP dialog
and the Epson driver has it on the Paper size selection. You also have to NOT have the AirPrint driver installed.
Roy
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... You also have to NOT have the AirPrint driver installed.
Roy Wow! Maybe that is the reason I was beating my head against the wall last week helping a woman here in town get her P900 set up for doing DTP. No matter what we tried, we could not get the Epson Media Installer to communicate with the printer. I am pretty sure that we also had the Epson AirPrint version of the driver installed on her laptop. Fortunately, we were able to print by just using the poster board setting on the front of the printer and make sure they matched with the Print Tool print settings. … Clay
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Really I mean make sure you are not using the AirPrint driver -- it can exist.
Trouble is that the default name is identical with Epson driver.
Roy
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Thanks, Roy! I found this explanation:?
And today, had a zoom meeting with Ray Bidegain. We worked it out. Frustrating, but so glad to know what to do. Ditch the AirPrint driver. The step-by-step is in the link above.
Regards, Cheryl Hanna-Truscott www.HannaTruscott.com
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On Jan 31, 2025, at 10:52, Roy Harrington via groups.io <roy@...> wrote:
?Really I mean make sure you are not using the AirPrint driver -- it can exist.
Trouble is that the default name is identical with Epson driver.
Roy
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