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HELP! My Prints are Coming Out Brown.....Why?

Steve
 

When I use the QTR to print on either Epson Premium Luster or Ilford
Smooth Pearl papers, my prints have a strong brownish hue to them.
Even with a Curve of 100% cool, they are still printing out brown.
Why is this happening? All the QTRgui settings are correct and I
converted to the Photo Gray profile.

By the way, I should add that the QTR works great on Enhanced Matte
paper (looks far superior than printing from PS and with NO magenta
tinge to them under the flourescent lights). What a relief.

I'd appreciate hearng back from someone who might be able to help me.

Thanks!
Steve
Re: QTR Calibration

Richard Ayres
 

Sorry about the info. A while back I needed to change from a CMYK special
file to an RGB one. The new file inkseparation.psd is RGB and works exactly
like the old one did.

Roy
Thanks for the clarification.

Rich
Re: QTR Calibration

 

--- In QuadtoneRIP@..., "Richard Ayres" <rgayres@e...> wrote:

--- In QuadtoneRIP@..., "zonepeter" <zonepeter@a...> wrote:


Rich,

For QTRgui in the gui go to option>calibration mode. That will open
the file.

Peter
Peter;

I did that and still only found inkseparation.tif and inkseparation.psd. To quote
from
QuadToneRIP 2.0 Calibration (for MacOSX):

"The Ink Pattern Test Page
The ink pattern test page "inkpattern.psd" is a very special file....The first thing
you will
notice upon opening the file is that it is a CMYK file instead of a grayscale. It's
very
important that you do NOT color manage this file when you open it or when you
print it...."

When I open the "ink separation.xxx" files ...leave as is(don't color manage), they
open as
8 bit RGB files, so I don't think these are the files refered to in the calibration
instructions.

Am I missing something here?
Sorry about the info. A while back I needed to change from a CMYK special
file to an RGB one. The new file inkseparation.psd is RGB and works exactly
like the old one did.

Roy
Re: QTR Calibration

Richard Ayres
 

--- In QuadtoneRIP@..., "zonepeter" <zonepeter@a...> wrote:


Rich,

For QTRgui in the gui go to option>calibration mode. That will open
the file.

Peter
Peter;

I did that and still only found inkseparation.tif and inkseparation.psd. To quote from
QuadToneRIP 2.0 Calibration (for MacOSX):

"The Ink Pattern Test Page
The ink pattern test page "inkpattern.psd" is a very special file....The first thing you will
notice upon opening the file is that it is a CMYK file instead of a grayscale. It's very
important that you do NOT color manage this file when you open it or when you print it...."

When I open the "ink separation.xxx" files ...leave as is(don't color manage), they open as
8 bit RGB files, so I don't think these are the files refered to in the calibration instructions.

Am I missing something here?
Which Curve Blend Do I Choose?

Steve
 

I'm doing a series of 'step wedges'tonight using the QTR and a 2200
printer. I've done Epson enhanced matte and about to try Epson Premium
Luster.

What curves blend do I choose in the QTRgui?

I'm using the the Gray Photo wedge and selected Premium Luster in the
media menu
Re: QTR Calibration

 

Rich,

For QTRgui in the gui go to option>calibration mode. That will open
the file.

Peter
QTR Calibration

Richard Ayres
 

The QuadToneRip 2.0 Calibration instructions tell us to use "inkpatern.psd" , a CYMK file,
as our calibration file yet I cannot find it in either the MacOsX or WinXP versions. The
closest file is "Inkseparation.psd", but it is 8bit RGB. I open it without any color
management (leave as is) but it is still RGB.

Where can I find "inkpattern.psd?

MacOSX 10.3.8
PS CS
Epson 2200

Rich
Bluish Shadow tones

Johnny Eades
 

I find that the shadows in QTR using EEM neutral, are quite blue and
detract from the neutral tone of the other areas. In examining the
curve, I see the toner is 100% density and the ink limit is 45. I
haven't made any changes in the print curve till I can get access to a
densitometer, but does anyone have any help they can give me to remove
this blue shadow tint till then?

Your friend in Photography,

Johnny
Re: printing with Qimage

Stephen Billard
 

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Qimage gives you all the page layout controls you could ever want. It also does smart sharpening for printer output. You can do all these things in Photoshop, but since you are using Qimage for color, I would guess you, like me, find page management easier on Qimage.
?
?
-Stephen
?

-----Original Message-----
From: Bernie Raffe [mailto:bernieraffe@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:21 AM
To: QuadtoneRIP@...
Subject: RE: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: printing with Qimage

This is curious!

?

I also use Qimage, it’s a great product – but now I only use it for colour prints and use QTR for b&w. Why bother going via Qimage for b&w, especially if the image has already been processed in Photoshop? The only reason I can think of is to allow multiple photos to be laid out first.

?

What am I missing?

?

Cheers,

Bernie

?
Re: printing with Qimage

Diane Fields
 

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Bernie--I like it somewhat better than sharpening in PS with USM.? If you do a lot of other twists to sharpening or use something like PKS--the sharpening may better for some images.? As far as interpolation--I really haven't done a comparison (though I probably should).? Qimage does a bang up job of it though--but PSCS bicubic with smoother or sharper is very very good.
?
Diane

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:18 AM
Subject: RE: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: printing with Qimage

Yes, that makes sense, but I tend to do that kind of processing in Photoshop.

?

I wonder whether 蚕颈尘补驳别’蝉 interpolation and sharpening is an improvement on 笔厂’蝉, will have to give it a try.

?

Bernie

?
Re: printing with Qimage

Diane Fields
 

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Bernard,
?
The reason I considered it is because I jump through hoops to sharpen with PKS in PS (though I really like the plugin--but it will only work in RGB).? Qimage does a really good interpolation of my original digital files--and also a very good job with its 'smart sharpening'--which means I don't have to fiddle around about sharpening (which I always do as the last step after resizing).? I imagine I will go back and forth between the 2 depending upon my mood and the image (PKS allows me to be very selective about my sharpening and some times that's really needed).
?
Diane
-----------
Diane B. Fields
picnic@...
photo site?
?
?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 7:20 AM
Subject: RE: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: printing with Qimage

This is curious!

?

I also use Qimage, it’s a great product – but now I only use it for colour prints and use QTR for b&w. Why bother going via Qimage for b&w, especially if the image has already been processed in Photoshop? The only reason I can think of is to allow multiple photos to be laid out first.

?

What am I missing?

?

Cheers,

Bernie

?
Re: printing with Qimage

Diane Fields
 

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I agree with you LOL.? I did the same--opened the file saved from Qimage (with the profile) and used smart sharpening as usual.? It worked out great.?
?
I love QTR---its solved my one big disappointment with printing b/w with the 2200--the metamerism problem.? And--its so easy.
?
Diane

----- Original Message -----
From: John Lill
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 7:16 AM
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: printing with Qimage


Diane,
That's how I print, and I believe most others do, also. When I print
to file in Qimage, I set the printer ICC to QTR-RGB Gray Matte and
leave Smart Sharpening at the default. Then I open the tiff with QTR.
Works great. Some folks just set QTR to monitor a folder and let it
print automatically when the tiff is saved in Qimage. The
collaboration between Roy, Stephen, and Mike was wonderful and made
for a simple workflow.

I was thrilled when QTR was first released for Windows. Then when
Stephen created QTRGui, it was so much better. And now, with Mike's
input, and further improvements in QTR and the GUI, it's a real
pleasure to work with. Metemerism-free prints and I can easily change
the look from selenium-toned to warm and everything in between. What
fun!!

John L
Re: Problem with QTRGui

Steve
 

Yes, thanks Stephen, I now have the correct version and my curve
graphs are working fine. I must have downloaded the wrong version
from Roy Harrington's QTR site.

--- In QuadtoneRIP@..., "Stephen Billard"
<sbillard@s...> wrote:
Are you running version 2.2b? If not please update to this latest
version.
QTRgui will show version 2.2.1 in its title bar if you have this
version.


-Stephen
www.sbillard.org/Stephen

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve [mailto:blizzie12@y...]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 3:15 PM
To: QuadtoneRIP@...
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Problem with QTRGui



When I right click on the on the curve in the QTRgui it doesn't
show a
graph,is there a reason for this? I've been told that it's suppose
to.





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Re: Color settings for Photoshop 7

Scott Graham
 

actually you should read the instructions that came with the Beta9 version (2.1 beta 9 I
think)

Just don't take them too literally cuz the install and some of the print options have
changed. Rather look for hints.

But unless you are using the new grayscale profiles, the normal method for qtr is to use
"same as source" in the PS print with preview window where you would ordinarily put a
paper profile for color printing. And check black point and Roy says perceptual though I'm
testing with relative colormetric at the moment. He also says to print from a grayscale
mode file but my in my initial testing RGB works too (this may change as I am just getting
started)

Scott

--- In QuadtoneRIP@..., "abqrich" <ABQrich@m...> wrote:

I run QTR with an iMac in MacOS10.2.8 and Photoshop 7. I print with
an Epson
2200 using enhanced matte. What should my settings be in Photoshop?
If this question has already been aswered please refer me to the
post. I can't find it.
Thank you,
Richard Garnett
Color settings for Photoshop 7

abqrich
 

I run QTR with an iMac in MacOS10.2.8 and Photoshop 7. I print with
an Epson
2200 using enhanced matte. What should my settings be in Photoshop?
If this question has already been aswered please refer me to the
post. I can't find it.
Thank you,
Richard Garnett
Re: Problem with QTRGui

Stephen Billard
 

开云体育

Are you running version 2.2b? If not please update to this latest version. QTRgui will show version 2.2.1 in its title bar if you have this version.
?
?
-Stephen
?

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve [mailto:blizzie12@...]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 3:15 PM
To: QuadtoneRIP@...
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Problem with QTRGui


When I right click on the on the curve in the QTRgui it doesn't show a
graph,is there a reason for this? I've been told that it's suppose to.
Re: printing with Qimage

 

I think Qimage's interpolation is superior. As far as sharpening
goes, Photoshop does not offer Smart Sharpening, which is output
sharpening. Initially I was printing my color images from Qimage and
B&W directly with QTR but I noticed a difference in the sharpness. I
would have to add additional sharpening. So I started using the
Print to File in Qimage and I like the results much better.

--- In QuadtoneRIP@..., "Bernie Raffe"
<bernieraffe@a...> wrote:
Yes, that makes sense, but I tend to do that kind of processing in
Photoshop.

I wonder whether Qimage's interpolation and sharpening is an
improvement
on PS's, will have to give it a try.

Bernie




-----Original Message-----
From: John Lill [mailto:johnlill2@y...]
Sent: 05 April 2005 13:11
To: QuadtoneRIP@...
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: printing with Qimage


Bernie,

I use Qimage rather than just QTR for 2 reasons:
1) Qimage's great interpolation for resizing.
2) Qimage's Smart Sharpening

John
--- In QuadtoneRIP@..., "Bernie Raffe"
<bernieraffe@a...> wrote:
This is curious!

I also use Qimage, it's a great product – but now I only use it
for
colour prints and use QTR for b&w. Why bother going via Qimage
for
b&w,
especially if the image has already been processed in Photoshop?
The
only reason I can think of is to allow multiple photos to be
laid
out
first.

What am I missing?

Cheers,
Bernie


-----Original Message-----
From: John Lill [mailto:johnlill2@y...]
Sent: 05 April 2005 12:16
To: QuadtoneRIP@...
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: printing with Qimage


Diane,
That's how I print, and I believe most others do, also. When I
print
to file in Qimage, I set the printer ICC to QTR-RGB Gray Matte
and
leave Smart Sharpening at the default. Then I open the tiff with
QTR.
Works great. Some folks just set QTR to monitor a folder and let
it
print automatically when the tiff is saved in Qimage. The
collaboration between Roy, Stephen, and Mike was wonderful and
made
for a simple workflow.

I was thrilled when QTR was first released for Windows. Then
when
Stephen created QTRGui, it was so much better. And now, with
Mike's
input, and further improvements in QTR and the GUI, it's a real
pleasure to work with. Metemerism-free prints and I can easily
change
the look from selenium-toned to warm and everything in between.
What
fun!!

John L
--- In QuadtoneRIP@..., "Diane Fields" <picnic@c...>
wrote:
I know there are RGB ICC profiles for QTR gray-matte and gray-
photo. I also know these are to be used for printing from
Qimage. I
have and have used Qimage for a number of years and happen to be
using
it this morning. That brought up the question in my mind--just
how
are others printing from Qimage using QTR? Are you printing to
file,
then using that saved tiff to bring into the QTR GUI?


Diane
-----------
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picnic@c...
photo site HYPERLINK
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Re: printing with Qimage

Bernie Raffe
 

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Yes, that makes sense, but I tend to do that kind of processing in Photoshop.

?

I wonder whether 蚕颈尘补驳别’蝉 interpolation and sharpening is an improvement on 笔厂’蝉, will have to give it a try.

?

Bernie

?

?

?

?

-----Original Message-----

From: John Lill [mailto:johnlill2@...]
Sent: 05 April 2005 13:11
To: QuadtoneRIP@...
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: printing with Qimage

?


Bernie,

I use Qimage rather than just QTR for 2 reasons:
1) Qimage's great interpolation for resizing.
2) Qimage's Smart Sharpening

John
--- In QuadtoneRIP@..., "Bernie Raffe"
wrote:
> This is curious!
>?
> I also use Qimage, it's a great product – but now I only use it for
> colour prints and use QTR for b&w. Why bother going via Qimage for
b&w,
> especially if the image has already been processed in Photoshop?
The
> only reason I can think of is to allow multiple photos to be laid
out
> first.
>?
> What am I missing?
>?
> Cheers,
> Bernie
>?
>?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Lill [mailto:johnlill2@y...]
> Sent: 05 April 2005 12:16
> To: QuadtoneRIP@...
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: printing with Qimage
>?
>
> Diane,
> That's how I print, and I believe most others do, also. When I
print
> to file in Qimage, I set the printer ICC to QTR-RGB Gray Matte and
> leave Smart Sharpening at the default. Then I open the tiff with
QTR.
> Works great. Some folks just set QTR to monitor a folder and let
it
> print automatically when the tiff is saved in Qimage. The
> collaboration between Roy, Stephen, and Mike was wonderful and
made
> for a simple workflow.
>
> I was thrilled when QTR was first released for Windows. Then when
> Stephen created QTRGui, it was so much better. And now, with
Mike's
> input, and further improvements in QTR and the GUI, it's a real
> pleasure to work with. Metemerism-free prints and I can easily
change
> the look from selenium-toned to warm and everything in between.
What
> fun!!
>
> John L
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@..., "Diane Fields"
> wrote:
> > I know there are RGB ICC profiles for QTR gray-matte and gray-
> photo.? I also know these are to be used for printing from
Qimage.? I
> have and have used Qimage for a number of years and happen to be
> using
> it this morning.? That brought up the question in my mind--just
how
> are others printing from Qimage using QTR?? Are you printing to
file,
> then using that saved tiff to bring into the QTR GUI?
> >
> >
> > Diane
> > -----------
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Re: printing with Qimage

 

Bernie,

I use Qimage rather than just QTR for 2 reasons:
1) Qimage's great interpolation for resizing.
2) Qimage's Smart Sharpening

John
--- In QuadtoneRIP@..., "Bernie Raffe"
<bernieraffe@a...> wrote:
This is curious!

I also use Qimage, it's a great product – but now I only use it for
colour prints and use QTR for b&w. Why bother going via Qimage for
b&w,
especially if the image has already been processed in Photoshop?
The
only reason I can think of is to allow multiple photos to be laid
out
first.

What am I missing?

Cheers,
Bernie


-----Original Message-----
From: John Lill [mailto:johnlill2@y...]
Sent: 05 April 2005 12:16
To: QuadtoneRIP@...
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: printing with Qimage


Diane,
That's how I print, and I believe most others do, also. When I
print
to file in Qimage, I set the printer ICC to QTR-RGB Gray Matte and
leave Smart Sharpening at the default. Then I open the tiff with
QTR.
Works great. Some folks just set QTR to monitor a folder and let
it
print automatically when the tiff is saved in Qimage. The
collaboration between Roy, Stephen, and Mike was wonderful and
made
for a simple workflow.

I was thrilled when QTR was first released for Windows. Then when
Stephen created QTRGui, it was so much better. And now, with
Mike's
input, and further improvements in QTR and the GUI, it's a real
pleasure to work with. Metemerism-free prints and I can easily
change
the look from selenium-toned to warm and everything in between.
What
fun!!

John L
--- In QuadtoneRIP@..., "Diane Fields" <picnic@c...>
wrote:
I know there are RGB ICC profiles for QTR gray-matte and gray-
photo. I also know these are to be used for printing from
Qimage. I
have and have used Qimage for a number of years and happen to be
using
it this morning. That brought up the question in my mind--just
how
are others printing from Qimage using QTR? Are you printing to
file,
then using that saved tiff to bring into the QTR GUI?


Diane
-----------
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picnic@c...
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Re: printing with Qimage

Bernie Raffe
 

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This is curious!

?

I also use Qimage, it’s a great product – but now I only use it for colour prints and use QTR for b&w. Why bother going via Qimage for b&w, especially if the image has already been processed in Photoshop? The only reason I can think of is to allow multiple photos to be laid out first.

?

What am I missing?

?

Cheers,

Bernie

?

?

-----Original Message-----

From: John Lill [mailto:johnlill2@...]
Sent: 05 April 2005 12:16
To: QuadtoneRIP@...
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: printing with Qimage

?


Diane,
That's how I print, and I believe most others do, also. When I print
to file in Qimage, I set the printer ICC to QTR-RGB Gray Matte and
leave Smart Sharpening at the default. Then I open the tiff with QTR.
Works great. Some folks just set QTR to monitor a folder and let it
print automatically when the tiff is saved in Qimage. The
collaboration between Roy, Stephen, and Mike was wonderful and made
for a simple workflow.

I was thrilled when QTR was first released for Windows. Then when
Stephen created QTRGui, it was so much better. And now, with Mike's
input, and further improvements in QTR and the GUI, it's a real
pleasure to work with. Metemerism-free prints and I can easily change
the look from selenium-toned to warm and everything in between. What
fun!!

John L
--- In QuadtoneRIP@..., "Diane Fields"
wrote:
> I know there are RGB ICC profiles for QTR gray-matte and gray-
photo.? I also know these are to be used for printing from Qimage.? I
have and have used Qimage for a number of years and happen to be
using
it this morning.? That brought up the question in my mind--just how
are others printing from Qimage using QTR?? Are you printing to file,
then using that saved tiff to bring into the QTR GUI?
>
>
> Diane
> -----------
> Diane B. Fields
> picnic@c...
> photo site?





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