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Re: quadtonerip and print tool istallation on a new MINIMAC M4 (Sequoia 15.1)
Dear Eben = finally I was able to find it and do it. The download was being sent directly to the BIN because the system did not consider?it safe. Once I went to my security settings and authorized it to open I was able to downloaded. Thank you very much for the response.?
On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 2:19?PM Hector Fajardo via <hjfajardo= [email protected]> wrote:
Thank you for your response - it still does not appear ?- the Mac is new and The only down loads are the quad tone rip - even though I click for the print tool down load at the Quadtonerip webpage and see it fly to my computers download it does not appear in the list- I attach a photograph of the view list ?- I do not know why. Why wouldn’t? It is not complicated. It’s not a big list?
Here’s what happened: you downloaded it but when you looked in your Downloads folder, it was sorted in such a way that the files you want weren’t at the top of the list.? Search through your Downloads folder for the Print-Tool files - there will be the zip file which, if you haven’t already, you want to double-click on to unpack it. And then there will be the Print-Tool folder. That’s what you want.
In “List View” in the Finder, you can also choose to sort by “Date Added” if that column is visible, and your stuff should be at the top.
Hello - this is my first post in this group- I? need some guidance to be able to install the print tool on my new minimac m4 ?computer. I am new to quadftonerip. I am a photographer that prints cyanotypes on high temperature porcelain. I have been using EDN to do my adjustment curves but would like to use quadtonerip ands move beyond the cyanotypes to other alt processes printed on thin hight temp porcelain tiles. To do this I bought a new? MiniMac M4 computer (Sequoia 15.1) and a new SCp700 printer (10 ink). I have always been a windows user but know that to use quadtonerip and do my curves and print need a Mac computer. I have had trouble installing my epson SCp700. I was able to install quadtonerip and I installed the profiles of the p700. I can see them in my library and in photoshop I see the quadp700 printer. What I have not been able is to install the print tool. When I try to download Print-Tool-2.3.4.zip it downloads a DMG file (SCP700_Lite_64NR2_NA.dmg) not a folder. When I click on the DMG file it takes me to the Epson installer and reinstall the epson software and drivers not the print-tool. I am not able to get print tool dialog box.
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Can someone help me? Am I doing something wrong??
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Your help would be much appreciated
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Re: quadtonerip and print tool istallation on a new MINIMAC M4 (Sequoia 15.1)
Thank you for your response - it still does not appear ?- the Mac is new and The only down loads are the quad tone rip - even though I click for the print tool down load at the Quadtonerip webpage and see it fly to my computers download it does not appear in the list- I attach a photograph of the view list ?- I do not know why. Why wouldn’t? It is not complicated. It’s not a big list?
Here’s what happened: you downloaded it but when you looked in your Downloads folder, it was sorted in such a way that the files you want weren’t at the top of the list.? Search through your Downloads folder for the Print-Tool files - there will be the zip file which, if you haven’t already, you want to double-click on to unpack it. And then there will be the Print-Tool folder. That’s what you want.
In “List View” in the Finder, you can also choose to sort by “Date Added” if that column is visible, and your stuff should be at the top.
Hello - this is my first post in this group- I? need some guidance to be able to install the print tool on my new minimac m4 ?computer. I am new to quadftonerip. I am a photographer that prints cyanotypes on high temperature porcelain. I have been using EDN to do my adjustment curves but would like to use quadtonerip ands move beyond the cyanotypes to other alt processes printed on thin hight temp porcelain tiles. To do this I bought a new? MiniMac M4 computer (Sequoia 15.1) and a new SCp700 printer (10 ink). I have always been a windows user but know that to use quadtonerip and do my curves and print need a Mac computer. I have had trouble installing my epson SCp700. I was able to install quadtonerip and I installed the profiles of the p700. I can see them in my library and in photoshop I see the quadp700 printer. What I have not been able is to install the print tool. When I try to download Print-Tool-2.3.4.zip it downloads a DMG file (SCP700_Lite_64NR2_NA.dmg) not a folder. When I click on the DMG file it takes me to the Epson installer and reinstall the epson software and drivers not the print-tool. I am not able to get print tool dialog box.
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Can someone help me? Am I doing something wrong??
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Your help would be much appreciated
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Thanks?
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Hector
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Re: quadtonerip and print tool istallation on a new MINIMAC M4 (Sequoia 15.1)
Here’s what happened: you downloaded it but when you looked in your Downloads folder, it was sorted in such a way that the files you want weren’t at the top of the list.? Search through your Downloads folder for the Print-Tool files - there will be the zip file which, if you haven’t already, you want to double-click on to unpack it. And then there will be the Print-Tool folder. That’s what you want.
In “List View” in the Finder, you can also choose to sort by “Date Added” if that column is visible, and your stuff should be at the top.
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On Jan 27, 2025, at 11:30?AM, hjfajardo via groups.io <hjfajardo@...> wrote:
Hello - this is my first post in this group- I? need some guidance to be able to install the print tool on my new minimac m4 ?computer. I am new to quadftonerip. I am a photographer that prints cyanotypes on high temperature porcelain. I have been using EDN to do my adjustment curves but would like to use quadtonerip ands move beyond the cyanotypes to other alt processes printed on thin hight temp porcelain tiles. To do this I bought a new? MiniMac M4 computer (Sequoia 15.1) and a new SCp700 printer (10 ink). I have always been a windows user but know that to use quadtonerip and do my curves and print need a Mac computer. I have had trouble installing my epson SCp700. I was able to install quadtonerip and I installed the profiles of the p700. I can see them in my library and in photoshop I see the quadp700 printer. What I have not been able is to install the print tool. When I try to download Print-Tool-2.3.4.zip it downloads a DMG file (SCP700_Lite_64NR2_NA.dmg) not a folder. When I click on the DMG file it takes me to the Epson installer and reinstall the epson software and drivers not the print-tool. I am not able to get print tool dialog box.
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Can someone help me? Am I doing something wrong??
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Your help would be much appreciated
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Thanks?
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Hector
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quadtonerip and print tool istallation on a new MINIMAC M4 (Sequoia 15.1)
Hello - this is my first post in this group- I? need some guidance to be able to install the print tool on my new minimac m4 ?computer. I am new to quadftonerip. I am a photographer that prints cyanotypes on high temperature porcelain. I have been using EDN to do my adjustment curves but would like to use quadtonerip ands move beyond the cyanotypes to other alt processes printed on thin hight temp porcelain tiles. To do this I bought a new? MiniMac M4 computer (Sequoia 15.1) and a new SCp700 printer (10 ink). I have always been a windows user but know that to use quadtonerip and do my curves and print need a Mac computer. I have had trouble installing my epson SCp700. I was able to install quadtonerip and I installed the profiles of the p700. I can see them in my library and in photoshop I see the quadp700 printer. What I have not been able is to install the print tool. When I try to download Print-Tool-2.3.4.zip it downloads a DMG file (SCP700_Lite_64NR2_NA.dmg) not a folder. When I click on the DMG file it takes me to the Epson installer and reinstall the epson software and drivers not the print-tool. I am not able to get print tool dialog box.
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Can someone help me? Am I doing something wrong??
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Your help would be much appreciated
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Thanks?
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Hector
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Sorted. Found the culprit. Thanks.
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Oh, I would highly recommend it over the P900. But it’ll take two people to lift it, it’s $2000 and takes $1000 in ink. In the long run, cheaper tho.
The quirk is this, see attached images. You have to put the OHP down quite far into the printer sheet feed until you see the screen pop up as attached. Hit OK then you have to also make the two selections in the next screen and hit OK. THEN wait for the printer
to SLOWLY decide it’ll load the OHP. It takes a while during which time hopefully you will get no warning signal, you’ll notice the printer gives a sigh of relief and quiets down and says Ready to Print. THEN, go through Print-Tool and make all your selections
and hit print.
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I did not discover this; I kept getting the error light beeping at me. It was my student who prints on the large printers in the digital lab and she knew that paper had to be loaded and
ready, down in the printer, before hitting print.
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That is not true of the P900 or any smaller printer I have worked with before.
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But I had 16 students printing digital negatives right away in lab last week.
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I thought at first oh no, the profiles were NOT good because some students got very contrasty prints, so I brought negatives home and printed them in my lab here and realized it was not
the printer but student error (either not selecting the profile or not enough humidity in the paper or not enough exposure in the light boxes). It’s really only easy for me to compare apples to apples in a controlled environment aka my home dimroom.
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The only other thing I noticed at first was printing a half inch of less dense along the first or last edge of the image, but making an image only 9 inches tall and not up to the edge of
the OHP solved that.
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It is so much higher quality than the P900…
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Well, that is really good news. ?Based on your experience, I am thinking we might replace one of our printers with a P5370. Any quirks that you’ve noticed yet?
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On Jan 26, 2025, at 1:47?PM, Christina Z. Anderson via groups.io <christinazanderson@...> wrote:
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I’ve printed both classic and new cyanotype with the P900 profiles printed with the P5370 and they work as expected so as far as I am concerned I can extrapolate from those two processes
that I have no need to create modified profiles from the ones I created for the P900.
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Well, that is really good news. ?Based on your experience, I am thinking we might replace one of our printers with a P5370. Any quirks that you’ve noticed yet?
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I’ve printed both classic and new cyanotype with the P900 profiles printed with the P5370 and they work as expected so as far as I am concerned I can extrapolate from those two processes that I have no need to create modified profiles from the ones I created for the P900. Chris ?
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I’ve printed both classic and new cyanotype with the P900 profiles printed with the P5370 and they work as expected so as far as I am concerned I can extrapolate from those two processes that I have no need
to create modified profiles from the ones I created for the P900.
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Sure you can use black only.
There are lots of examples of this in "MIS" folders in the QTR download for 1400 printer.
But as Hendrik mentions the dots will be visible in the highlights.
I suggest trying various combinations before you decide. You may like to add the LK and maybe even the LLK.
Actually its probably easiest to look at the UCmk-...-warm.txt profiles for the 3880. They use just K, LK, LLK.
Make variations by just commenting out the inks in the GRAY section.
Roy
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... but there might be a drawback. The image quality may suffer a bit when you try to represent the highlights with dots of pure black.
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I think you can do that. You could create a profile which only uses black (K).
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hello I'm wondering if I can use only black ( matt) with this software I have it since 4-5 years and I love it but now I have a epson 3880 that I only need the black matt ink and replacing al the other can get expensive and the are only there to west? when the printer is doing a head cleaning cycle ... but I can't use the printer if there one color missing $$$ so I wnat just use the black Matt and put all generic fill with cleaning liquid to make the printer think there full... the cleaning fuel is 50$ a litre so I will save a lot of money and never get my head dry.....so my question is can I us only black matt and forget about the other ink that I dont use?? or is there another way to tell the printer to print if it,s missing a color ink!?!?
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The said positioning problem with QTR under win10 only arises when using the comma as the system-wide decimal character, as in the majority of the European countries. My tests suggest the following explanation.
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If the OS is set to use the decimal 'comma' the QTR GUI can handle the top and left input data (inch or mm units) properly and the preview on screen shows the correct position of the image on the paper sheet, suggesting all is o.k. But when the GUI communicates the input position data to the core of QTR then all units are converted to inches and only the decimal 'point' is accepted internally. As a result the positioning data are truncated to integer multiples of one inch and the image is printed correspondingly (in general differently from the preview).
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Therefore, an accurate specified positioning of the image on the paper is only achieved if the system-wide decimal symbol is the decimal point. The size of the image is never affected, because it must not be specified in inches or mm in the GUI.
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Hi all. This morning I'm trying to print on a plate in a carrier. The printer seems to be stuck on "receiving data". This is the first time this is happening. Can anyone shed some light?
I tried through the printer's dialog and also through Print Tool. Same issue.
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Re: Convert .quad file to .qidf file?
There is a manual workaround that I have used if on a PC using the Main QTR Print Screen.
1- Put the quad file in as if going to print
2- Right click on it and you can see the quad ink curve(s) displayed
3- take down key readings from each ink curve (you may need every 5 units if lots of abrupt changes)
4- Then go to the Curve Creator and create using Curve feature on each ink if not easily produced with the other options
5- Save the qidf file and now you can adjust/tweak if needed
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Re: Printer descriptor file (ppd) not found for printer quad error
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 01:37 AM, greg brophy wrote:
This is the name InstallP5000.command from the QTR/Profiles/Quad5000 folder/
do I have to change it to InstallP5000-greg.command or something else
inbetween installP5000 and command? I have never had to do that before.
Greg
Hi Greg If this "QTR/Profiles/Quad5000 folder/" this is indeed your folder name, the problem is the space in the name -- change the space to _ or - No special characters are allowed in folder names, file names and curve names in general. The whole -greg is optional. The key is printer name and the install script have to match. So printer would be QuadP5000 and script InstallP5000.command -- note the "P" is part of the printer name. (btw - P5000 is now supported with its own name so the =4900 extra is unnecessary) Roy
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Re: Everyday backlit prints
Red River is my go-to source for all kinds of photo paper, even 2- and 4-ply rag matte board.
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Re: Everyday backlit prints
Thanks, Mike.
Red River Glossy seems like the way to go.
Your digital negative method looks amazingly impressive, though daunting for those of us who have used QTR only in fairly simple ways. It’s been several years since I checked to see what QTR stuff was available online, but 10 years ago I didn’t find the
explanations/instructions too helpful for the uninitiated. :-)
Myron
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On Jan 18, 2025, at 12:47, mike rosenberg via groups.io <mprosenberg417@...> wrote:
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On my website I describe a method for making digital negatives for silver gelatin prints using Red River glossy paper.? It does not have a watermark on the back of the paper. A similar question of back-lighting
a print was raised on the Large Format Forum; he tried Red River Glossy paper and was very pleased with the result.
Thanks, Kirk.? I’ll give that a try.
Myron
External message: Use caution.
Maybe try Red River light weight (7 mil thick, 42lb) ?glossy:
I have not printed on it, personally, but it seems to fit the bill.? The manufacturer notes that the non-glossy side is plain white and that you can print text or graphics on that side as well.? Red River also offers heavier paper in the same configuration:
Kirk
A few years ago I discovered that prints on Kirkland glossy paper looked good when framed and hung in a window so they would be backlit.
The frames were Dollar Store double glass frames (photograph between two pieces of glass, no matting).
I would place a second piece of glossy paper against the back of the print, with the surface facing out or away. The frame was then hung in a window. I assumed that any UV from sunlight or skylight would be absorbed before it made its way to the ink layer.?
During the day the print would mostly be lit from behind, and when it was dark outside the image would be lit by ordinary room lighting. I was surprised at how well this worked in my home.
I no longer have access to Kirkland paper (if it is still made). Epson Premium Luster is a good substitute for everyday printing, but it has watermarks on the back.
Does someone make a similar quality paper without watermarks??
Is anyone using glossy paper as a digital negative (for contact printing in the darkroom)??
I live well off the beaten path, so it’s not easy to have a look at a variety of paper.
Thanks!
Myron
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Re: Printer descriptor file (ppd) not found for printer quad error
From memory: InstallP5000=4900.command
regards -Walker
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This is the name InstallP5000.command from the QTR/Profiles/Quad5000 folder/ do I have to change it to InstallP5000-greg.command or something else inbetween installP5000 and command? I have never had to do that before.
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Hendrik Kuhlmann
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