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Re: Epson P5370

 

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Hi Berel,

Where does one get the carrier? ?or is it just a matte board? ?Can you post a picture? ?

Jess

On Jan 10, 2025, at 8:21 AM, Berel Lutsky via groups.io <lutskyb@...> wrote:

My experience with 3880, p800 and p600 is that using the front feed option eliminates the pizza wheels.? It is likely that the p900 will do the same. There is no hidden instruction, it assumes that you are loading posterboard. I use a carrier for DTP polymer gravure? (window cut into 2 ply matte board) so that is my default anyway - for film you may want to try attaching it to a carrier as well -because I am pretty sure that the? platen gap automatically adjusts for thick media.

Berel Lutsky







Re: Epson P5370

 

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My experience with 3880, p800 and p600 is that using the front feed option eliminates the pizza wheels.? It is likely that the p900 will do the same. There is no hidden instruction, it assumes that you are loading posterboard. I use a carrier for DTP polymer gravure? (window cut into 2 ply matte board) so that is my default anyway - for film you may want to try attaching it to a carrier as well -because I am pretty sure that the? platen gap automatically adjusts for thick media.

Berel Lutsky






A couple of questions about QTR Print-Tool & QuadToneProfiler-DN (v3) Licenses

 

Hi there QTR users !
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I am about to purchase licenses for QTR Print-Tool ($39 iirc) and for Richard Boutwell's QuadToneProfiler-DN (v3) (about 100 euros)....
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I am going to install those on my old late-2015 MacBook Pro laptop, but I plan to buy a new MacBook Pro in a couple of months...
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I'd like to make sure that the licenses I buy will still be valid if I re-installed both softwares on my future new machine ... Can someone here confirm or deny this please ?
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Thank you !!
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Lo?c


Re: FYI for Mac Users

 

Thank you for sharing this article, Clay.

Unfortunately, this is very timely for me, as both my iMac and MacBook Pro have been affected, despite neither being upgraded to the latest OS.

Firstly, I noticed last week?that my USB hub connected?to my iMac refuses to read my card reader on a specific socket, even though the same socket reads other devices without issue.?
I tested the card reader, and it works fine—it’s just this particular socket on the hub that has the problem.

Secondly (and more critically), I’ve encountered communication errors (connected via WiFi) between my Epson P800 printer and my MacBook Pro.?
It was working perfectly until last Friday, but now my MacBook Pro recognises the printer yet refuses to send file data to it.?
Interestingly, when I connected the printer via a WiFi hotspot on my mobile, it worked fine.?
I also tested the printer using my partner's laptop and didn’t encounter any issues there.

The current OS versions are:

iMac: macOS 12.7.5 (Monterey)
MacBook Pro: macOS 13.2.1 (Ventura)

Based on these tests, I suspect the issue isn’t solely caused by upgrading to macOS 14.4.


On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 5:40?AM molte via <molte=[email protected]> wrote:
Does that mean that Monterey/12 and earlier is ok? What about El Capitan/10 ?? (I am very new to mac after 40 years on PC)
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Fra: Jeff <jeff@...>
Til: QuadToneRIP <[email protected]>
Dato: torsdag d. 9. januar 2025 kl. 07:27 CET
Emne: Re: [QuadToneRIP] FYI for Mac Users

something to consider. I use an old Mac mini i3 running Mojave to print from. It's headless. but I see old Macbooks on FB marketplace for $150.00. You can get one of those to print from. I do my editing on a more up to date computer then access the other Mac via screen share and drag my image over there and print from print tools running off that Mac. It's a lot simpler than having to struggle with getting this stuff to run consistently with Seqouia etc...



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Re: FYI for Mac Users

 

Does that mean that Monterey/12 and earlier is ok? What about El Capitan/10 ?? (I am very new to mac after 40 years on PC)
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Fra: Jeff <jeff@...>
Til: QuadToneRIP <[email protected]>
Dato: torsdag d. 9. januar 2025 kl. 07:27 CET
Emne: Re: [QuadToneRIP] FYI for Mac Users

something to consider. I use an old Mac mini i3 running Mojave to print from. It's headless. but I see old Macbooks on FB marketplace for $150.00. You can get one of those to print from. I do my editing on a more up to date computer then access the other Mac via screen share and drag my image over there and print from print tools running off that Mac. It's a lot simpler than having to struggle with getting this stuff to run consistently with Seqouia etc...


Re: Revisiting Carbon 6/7/8 in 2024

 
Edited

Here's what sparked my question. I picked up a 7880. Didn't get used much, but has been sitting for over a decade. Ink lines are empty in spots (guessing evaporation?) My suspicion is the ink near the cartridges is dried up. You can see the ink coming out of the cart, but empty everywhere else.
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I want to run power cleans or INIT and flush something like Piezo through, but that's going to be expensive. If I try with Paul's base formula that's a lot cheaper.
**I did check that everything else works, including the air pump, boards, just no ink moving. And don't have enough ink in the OEM cartridges to do a power clean. I guess the easiest thing is to just try.

I did find this video on YouTube. Just using distilled water.?
https://youtu.be/QERSpXKbpy4?si=ofeIYZmEHFinN3-T
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Re: Revisiting Carbon 6/7/8 in 2024

 

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I've used Piezoflush for years to clean my 3880, but recently switched to Majic Bullet, which I have found to be much more effective.?



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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Walker Blackwell <forums@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 10:53:24 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [QuadToneRIP] Revisiting Carbon 6/7/8 in 2024
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I do not recommend alcohol at all. Piezoflush does not have that. I really recommend buying the real stuff from inkjetmall for long term storage. I don’t have any allegiance to Jon (exactly the opposite at this point considering his actions towards me in 2023) but there are real differences with PF for storage compared to other products out there so that’s my recommendation.?

-Walker

On Jan 9, 2025, at 12:04?AM, Jeff Kew via groups.io <jeff@...> wrote:

Happy New Years all.
?
I have a question about cleaning/storage solutions.

I've bought PiezoFlush from Inkjet Mall and I've also bought a clear solution from Inkjet OWL. Both offering similar functionality.

I recently found an online doc showing piezo cleaning formula as:

<Screenshot 2025-01-08 at 8.58.55?PM.png>

When I compare to Paul's cb6 base, the above adds glycol, alcohol and colouring. Since Pauls formula adds Edwal LFN as a surfactant, seems like it could be used as for the same purpose?

Paul's formula:
55% distilled water
34% glycerol
10% Kodak Photo-Flo, and
1% Edwal LFN.

Has anyone made their own for storing and flushing your lines?
?
?


Re: Revisiting Carbon 6/7/8 in 2024

 

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I do not recommend alcohol at all. Piezoflush does not have that. I really recommend buying the real stuff from inkjetmall for long term storage. I don’t have any allegiance to Jon (exactly the opposite at this point considering his actions towards me in 2023) but there are real differences with PF for storage compared to other products out there so that’s my recommendation.?

-Walker

On Jan 9, 2025, at 12:04?AM, Jeff Kew via groups.io <jeff@...> wrote:

Happy New Years all.
?
I have a question about cleaning/storage solutions.

I've bought PiezoFlush from Inkjet Mall and I've also bought a clear solution from Inkjet OWL. Both offering similar functionality.

I recently found an online doc showing piezo cleaning formula as:

<Screenshot 2025-01-08 at 8.58.55?PM.png>

When I compare to Paul's cb6 base, the above adds glycol, alcohol and colouring. Since Pauls formula adds Edwal LFN as a surfactant, seems like it could be used as for the same purpose?

Paul's formula:
55% distilled water
34% glycerol
10% Kodak Photo-Flo, and
1% Edwal LFN.

Has anyone made their own for storing and flushing your lines?
?
?


Re: Epson P5370

 

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No, didn’t try the front feeder. We tried the pizza wheel hack on one to disengage and that created problems and there are things in a school lab that are more difficult to do than at home with traffic and usage. I think there was one student who used the front feeder for large negatives and I should ask him if he still had marks.

Chris

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Alan Vlach via groups.io <alanvlach@...>
Date: Thursday, January 9, 2025 at 7:17
?AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [QuadToneRIP] Epson P5370

Just curious. Did you not have any luck using the front feeder to eliminate pizza wheels on the 900? Epson included a special setting to disengage the pizza wheels.?



On Jan 8, 2025, at 8:40?PM, Christina Z. Anderson via groups.io <christinazanderson@...> wrote:

?

Roy,

You are a Godsend.

It worked.

But the command for some reason had to be InstallP5300=P900.command. For some reason this printer only shows as a P5300. Then I cut and pasted all the quads into the P5300 file folder, too, and they showed up fine.

The P 5370 is SO sensitive. You have to go through a lot of machinations to make it recognize sheet feed and not cassette or manual. AND position the OHP perfectly so the driver head sees it. Also to push the OHP quite far down in place, do all the selections of paper type, size, etc. in the printer control panel itself, before pressing Print in Print Tool. Otherwise, errors abound.

I also had the usual problem of the top inch of the negative print low density so I assume a workaround is no more than 9 inch image, image 1 inch away from edge, or go so far as to cut and paste part of the image for an inch at the leading edge as some have done (that will be beyond students).

I will be making step by steps to laminate so students will not run into the myriad picky issues this printer displays, but if we can print negs with no pizza wheels I have died and gone to heaven. We’ve kept the two P900s as backup in the lab for busy images that pizza wheels will get lost in, and just have the one P5370. I mean, it’s a BEAST in cost and size, really not a consumer model by any means.

?

Question is I wonder if it really makes a dif using 1440 super, or 2880, or 2880 super? I’m trying 1440 super to see if it’s adequate with some negs I printed.

?

I also will report back if the P900 profiles are perfectly fine or need major tweaking. So far the negatives I’ve printed for new cyanotype and palladium look as I would expect but that doesn’t prove anything until I print prints.

?

Chris

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Roy Harrington via groups.io <roy@...>
Date: Friday, December 27, 2024 at 3:25
?PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [QuadToneRIP] Epson P5370

Hi Chris?

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Just rename script to InstallP5370=P900.command

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This will find P5370 printer but use P900 driver.?

Roy


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On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:00?PM Christina Z. Anderson via <christinazanderson=[email protected]> wrote:

We’ve switched to the Epson P5370 at work due to the P900s having such severe pizza wheel issues as to make both printers unusable for all but the busiest of images..

No luck being able to install QTR for the P5370.

Op sys attached.

Error message attached.

I’ve named it P5000, P5300 series, P5370, none work.

I’ve re-installed QTR 3x.

I’ve turned on and off printer.

I’ve made sure all permissions are read/write on the folders from Library to quadtone to quads.

Any ideas?

Someone on this list had no problem using P900 profiles on this printer, either, and I do notice the inks are the same except VLM is LM and VM is M…hope that is not an issue.

Chris

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Re: Epson P5370

 

Alan, I have a P900 and fortunately I?do not have the pizza wheel issue, however you mentioned in your post "Epson included a special setting to disengage the pizza wheels."? Can you provide any information about this setting? That would be helpful to many on this forum?and also if I should develop it in the future.

thanks Dave

On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 9:17?AM Alan Vlach via <alanvlach=[email protected]> wrote:
Just curious. Did you not have any luck using the front feeder to eliminate pizza wheels on the 900? Epson included a special setting to disengage the pizza wheels.?

On Jan 8, 2025, at 8:40?PM, Christina Z. Anderson via <christinazanderson=[email protected]> wrote:

?

Roy,

You are a Godsend.

It worked.

But the command for some reason had to be InstallP5300=P900.command. For some reason this printer only shows as a P5300. Then I cut and pasted all the quads into the P5300 file folder, too, and they showed up fine.

The P 5370 is SO sensitive. You have to go through a lot of machinations to make it recognize sheet feed and not cassette or manual. AND position the OHP perfectly so the driver head sees it. Also to push the OHP quite far down in place, do all the selections of paper type, size, etc. in the printer control panel itself, before pressing Print in Print Tool. Otherwise, errors abound.

I also had the usual problem of the top inch of the negative print low density so I assume a workaround is no more than 9 inch image, image 1 inch away from edge, or go so far as to cut and paste part of the image for an inch at the leading edge as some have done (that will be beyond students).

I will be making step by steps to laminate so students will not run into the myriad picky issues this printer displays, but if we can print negs with no pizza wheels I have died and gone to heaven. We’ve kept the two P900s as backup in the lab for busy images that pizza wheels will get lost in, and just have the one P5370. I mean, it’s a BEAST in cost and size, really not a consumer model by any means.

?

Question is I wonder if it really makes a dif using 1440 super, or 2880, or 2880 super? I’m trying 1440 super to see if it’s adequate with some negs I printed.

?

I also will report back if the P900 profiles are perfectly fine or need major tweaking. So far the negatives I’ve printed for new cyanotype and palladium look as I would expect but that doesn’t prove anything until I print prints.

?

Chris

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Roy Harrington via <roy=[email protected]>
Date: Friday, December 27, 2024 at 3:25
?PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [QuadToneRIP] Epson P5370

Hi Chris?

?

Just rename script to InstallP5370=P900.command

?

This will find P5370 printer but use P900 driver.?

Roy


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On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:00?PM Christina Z. Anderson via <christinazanderson=[email protected]> wrote:

We’ve switched to the Epson P5370 at work due to the P900s having such severe pizza wheel issues as to make both printers unusable for all but the busiest of images..

No luck being able to install QTR for the P5370.

Op sys attached.

Error message attached.

I’ve named it P5000, P5300 series, P5370, none work.

I’ve re-installed QTR 3x.

I’ve turned on and off printer.

I’ve made sure all permissions are read/write on the folders from Library to quadtone to quads.

Any ideas?

Someone on this list had no problem using P900 profiles on this printer, either, and I do notice the inks are the same except VLM is LM and VM is M…hope that is not an issue.

Chris

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Re: Epson P5370

 

Hi Alan. I have a P900 and had the wheel issue. I did as was suggested to me on this forum. Fed the printer (and printed in low opacity to save ink) a few sheets of thick posterboard. Seems that the P900 needs some time and usage to "settle" in.? Did two DTP plates and the marks have gone. Will update when I print again.
?
Joe
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Re: Epson P5370

 

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Just curious. Did you not have any luck using the front feeder to eliminate pizza wheels on the 900? Epson included a special setting to disengage the pizza wheels.?

On Jan 8, 2025, at 8:40?PM, Christina Z. Anderson via groups.io <christinazanderson@...> wrote:

?

Roy,

You are a Godsend.

It worked.

But the command for some reason had to be InstallP5300=P900.command. For some reason this printer only shows as a P5300. Then I cut and pasted all the quads into the P5300 file folder, too, and they showed up fine.

The P 5370 is SO sensitive. You have to go through a lot of machinations to make it recognize sheet feed and not cassette or manual. AND position the OHP perfectly so the driver head sees it. Also to push the OHP quite far down in place, do all the selections of paper type, size, etc. in the printer control panel itself, before pressing Print in Print Tool. Otherwise, errors abound.

I also had the usual problem of the top inch of the negative print low density so I assume a workaround is no more than 9 inch image, image 1 inch away from edge, or go so far as to cut and paste part of the image for an inch at the leading edge as some have done (that will be beyond students).

I will be making step by steps to laminate so students will not run into the myriad picky issues this printer displays, but if we can print negs with no pizza wheels I have died and gone to heaven. We’ve kept the two P900s as backup in the lab for busy images that pizza wheels will get lost in, and just have the one P5370. I mean, it’s a BEAST in cost and size, really not a consumer model by any means.

?

Question is I wonder if it really makes a dif using 1440 super, or 2880, or 2880 super? I’m trying 1440 super to see if it’s adequate with some negs I printed.

?

I also will report back if the P900 profiles are perfectly fine or need major tweaking. So far the negatives I’ve printed for new cyanotype and palladium look as I would expect but that doesn’t prove anything until I print prints.

?

Chris

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Roy Harrington via groups.io <roy@...>
Date: Friday, December 27, 2024 at 3:25
?PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [QuadToneRIP] Epson P5370

Hi Chris?

?

Just rename script to InstallP5370=P900.command

?

This will find P5370 printer but use P900 driver.?

Roy


?

?

On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:00?PM Christina Z. Anderson via <christinazanderson=[email protected]> wrote:

We’ve switched to the Epson P5370 at work due to the P900s having such severe pizza wheel issues as to make both printers unusable for all but the busiest of images..

No luck being able to install QTR for the P5370.

Op sys attached.

Error message attached.

I’ve named it P5000, P5300 series, P5370, none work.

I’ve re-installed QTR 3x.

I’ve turned on and off printer.

I’ve made sure all permissions are read/write on the folders from Library to quadtone to quads.

Any ideas?

Someone on this list had no problem using P900 profiles on this printer, either, and I do notice the inks are the same except VLM is LM and VM is M…hope that is not an issue.

Chris

?


Re: FYI for Mac Users

 

something to consider. I use an old Mac mini i3 running Mojave to print from. It's headless. but I see old Macbooks on FB marketplace for $150.00. You can get one of those to print from. I do my editing on a more up to date computer then access the other Mac via screen share and drag my image over there and print from print tools running off that Mac. It's a lot simpler than having to struggle with getting this stuff to run consistently with Seqouia etc...


Re: Revisiting Carbon 6/7/8 in 2024

 

Happy New Years all.
?
I have a question about cleaning/storage solutions.

I've bought PiezoFlush from Inkjet Mall and I've also bought a clear solution from Inkjet OWL. Both offering similar functionality.

I recently found an online doc showing piezo cleaning formula as:



When I compare to Paul's cb6 base, the above adds glycol, alcohol and colouring. Since Pauls formula adds Edwal LFN as a surfactant, seems like it could be used as for the same purpose?

Paul's formula:
55% distilled water
34% glycerol
10% Kodak Photo-Flo, and
1% Edwal LFN.

Has anyone made their own for storing and flushing your lines?
?
?


Re: Epson P5370

 

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Roy,

You are a Godsend.

It worked.

But the command for some reason had to be InstallP5300=P900.command. For some reason this printer only shows as a P5300. Then I cut and pasted all the quads into the P5300 file folder, too, and they showed up fine.

The P 5370 is SO sensitive. You have to go through a lot of machinations to make it recognize sheet feed and not cassette or manual. AND position the OHP perfectly so the driver head sees it. Also to push the OHP quite far down in place, do all the selections of paper type, size, etc. in the printer control panel itself, before pressing Print in Print Tool. Otherwise, errors abound.

I also had the usual problem of the top inch of the negative print low density so I assume a workaround is no more than 9 inch image, image 1 inch away from edge, or go so far as to cut and paste part of the image for an inch at the leading edge as some have done (that will be beyond students).

I will be making step by steps to laminate so students will not run into the myriad picky issues this printer displays, but if we can print negs with no pizza wheels I have died and gone to heaven. We’ve kept the two P900s as backup in the lab for busy images that pizza wheels will get lost in, and just have the one P5370. I mean, it’s a BEAST in cost and size, really not a consumer model by any means.

?

Question is I wonder if it really makes a dif using 1440 super, or 2880, or 2880 super? I’m trying 1440 super to see if it’s adequate with some negs I printed.

?

I also will report back if the P900 profiles are perfectly fine or need major tweaking. So far the negatives I’ve printed for new cyanotype and palladium look as I would expect but that doesn’t prove anything until I print prints.

?

Chris

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Roy Harrington via groups.io <roy@...>
Date: Friday, December 27, 2024 at 3:25
?PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [QuadToneRIP] Epson P5370

Hi Chris?

?

Just rename script to InstallP5370=P900.command

?

This will find P5370 printer but use P900 driver.?

Roy


?

?

On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:00?PM Christina Z. Anderson via <christinazanderson=[email protected]> wrote:

We’ve switched to the Epson P5370 at work due to the P900s having such severe pizza wheel issues as to make both printers unusable for all but the busiest of images..

No luck being able to install QTR for the P5370.

Op sys attached.

Error message attached.

I’ve named it P5000, P5300 series, P5370, none work.

I’ve re-installed QTR 3x.

I’ve turned on and off printer.

I’ve made sure all permissions are read/write on the folders from Library to quadtone to quads.

Any ideas?

Someone on this list had no problem using P900 profiles on this printer, either, and I do notice the inks are the same except VLM is LM and VM is M…hope that is not an issue.

Chris

?


Re: Confirming - No Windows version of Print-Tool, correct?

 

You are right. PrintTool is Mac only.?
Windows just has QTRgui - simpler and only for QTR.?



On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 2:44?PM chirugby via <chirugby=[email protected]> wrote:
I have to print from Photoshop on a PC/Windows machine and would love to use Print-Tool, but it's apparently Mac only.
?
But just to confirm, is that correct? Is there something I'm missing?
?
If so, is there a PC tool that's reasonably close in functionality?


Confirming - No Windows version of Print-Tool, correct?

 

I have to print from Photoshop on a PC/Windows machine and would love to use Print-Tool, but it's apparently Mac only.
?
But just to confirm, is that correct? Is there something I'm missing?
?
If so, is there a PC tool that's reasonably close in functionality?


Re: Install on Mac Sequoia

 

The field highlighted in red is for the standard ICC Profiles.
The QTR Curves are in the QTR Print Dialog page -- as follows:

Paper & Print Settings > Layout-QuadToneRIP > Curves 1,2,3


Re: Registration Marks With PrintTool

 

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Larry, I will there was a magic bullet that would fix your problem. ?Since it worked once for you and no longer does, obviously something has changed. ?And I am sure you have probably racked your brains trying to figure out what! ?Sorry I couldn’t be more helpful.

On 4 Jan 2025, at 18:47, Larry Huhn via groups.io <lehuhn@...> wrote:

Michael, you mentioned ?ch printing uv blocking borders on n PS. I used to do this and they worked great for my platinum/palladium printing. For some reason this no longer works. By not working I mean that they borders no longer seem to block the uv enough to achieve a clean border even though I can achieve a paper white within the image. I have not been able to figure out why.


Re: DTP WITH P900

 

Thank you Clay. I’ll have a go with 2 (2ply) boards stuck together and will take it from there.?

I have printed without a carrier on larger plates ?but I have some small plates that are below what is allowed by the front feed of the P900.?

Thanks again for your feedback.

Joe

Joseph P Smith
MFA Digital Arts (Melit)
MSWPP; FMPA; FBIPP; Hon. FMPS; ARPS; AFIAP
Instagram: @smithfoto59
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On Sat, 04 Jan 2025 at 17:47, Clay Harmon via <w.clay.harmon=[email protected]> wrote:
There appears to be some variation in the thickness of mat board. Currently, I make my carriers using a solid 2-ply for the base and then another 2-ply with a cut-out window to hold the plate. It probably wouldn’t hurt to have something thinner on the bottom as long as it has some rigidity. I know Dave Marsh makes really cool carriers using thin aluminum sheets for the bottom. And some people are able to print their plates without any carrier at all - although when I have tried doing this the plate skids and I end up with a mess.?

On Jan 4, 2025, at 10:14?AM, Joe Smith via <smithfoto59=[email protected]> wrote:

Hello Clay
?
I have just received a pack of 2 ply matt board from Archival Methods and would like to ask the following question. Is the carrier fashioned out of 2 sheets of 2 ply board? One as a base and the
other one with the cut-out window? Or should the base be of a thinner material? I have measured the thickness of 2 boards together and this works out at 1.43mm (not 1.27mm).?
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks and a Happy New Year to all.