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Re: QTR, calibration


 

Your description of method 2 makes no sense.

All the values are simple ratio -- darkness of one ink vs darkness of another ink.
So K vs LK and LK vs LLK -- then calculate K vs LLK.
It's just simple algebra ->> (a/b)*(b/c) = (a/c)

But as you can see from Shilesh's experiment: once you linearize is fixes most anything.

On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 08:41 AM, Hendrik Kuhlmann wrote:


I think in his example Shilesh demonstrated the difference between the
two approaches we are discussing.

Curve 1 illustrates *method 1*: Here the printed luminosities of all
lighter inks are referred to K (the common reference curve): To that end
he determines the densities (for the ink setup) by those densities in
the calibration plot at which the K-curve has the luminosities at which
LK and LLK reach their respective minima. In his example:
??? Lmin of LK was 55% step of K
??? Lmin of LLK was 25% step of K
This method 1 corresponds to using the open square for the LLK density
in my graph.

Curve 2 illustrates *method 2*: In this case one has to multiply the two
fractions 0.55 and 0.25. This results in 0.25 * 0.55 ~ 14 for sought
density of LLK. This method 2 corresponds to using the solid diamond for
the LLK density in my graph.

I think in the calibration guide (p.4 of calibration.pdf) both these
methods are getting mixed. Here are the sentences which are contradictory:

* Method 1: "But it's necessary to have all the relative densities to
a common value".
* Method 2: "Mathematically this is very simple, just a multiply: LLK
= 38% of 32.7% of 100 ... = 12.4%"? and "... the comparison is most
accurate by comparing the LLK ink to the LK ink *not to the K ink*."

Both method yield the same result for the required density of LLK only
if all ink luminosities satisfy L(K) = A - b_ink*K (with A=L(K=0) the
common luminosity of the paper and different values of b_ink by for each
ink). This linear relation ship holds true for very small values of K.
But for larger K all L(K) curves saturate.

I hope it is clearer now.

Best,
Hendrik

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