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Re: weird sound when I started up my hotspot?

 

Good.? I was just going through and trying to make sure that there were no unanswered questions or issues.


Re: weird sound when I started up my hotspot?

 

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Hi Ryan,
I got that issue resolved. ?I did recompile the gateway, and made sure that the tx, and rx frequencies were 5 MHZ apart, and that seemed to fix the issue. ?You really helped me with that and I appreciate that.


On Aug 2, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Ryan Matthew Headley <headley.ryan@...> wrote:

--error in my previous post--

With QnetGateway, it is MMDVM.qn, NOT MMDVM.ini


Re: weird sound when I started up my hotspot?

 

--error in my previous post--

With QnetGateway, it is MMDVM.qn, NOT MMDVM.ini


Re: weird sound when I started up my hotspot?

 

Ignoring the log errors for the moment, are your RX and TX frequencies at least 5Mhz apart, and did you enable duplex in MMDVM.ini?


Re: Qnet gateway sounding like Darf Vader?

 

Glad it worked out.

By the way, if you have any suggestions about how the best way to format type so that it renders well in voice over, please post them.


Re: Qnet gateway sounding like Darf Vader?

 

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I used your first example, and it worked out fine. ?I’ve got my Qnet gateway setup to run the YSFHostupdate.sh script every night at midnight, and so far I’ve not seen any errors in the system logs thus far, so all seems to be working as it should. ?Don’t worry about the voiceover thing, it works 95% of the time, but sometimes some syntax causes it to get a bit flaky. ?Kind of ironic that it doesn’t really have a lot of smarts to work well in terminal, and terminal is just simply a flat text-based screen with nothing but ansi characters, that should not need some kind of special call to some API to let voiceover know that a given event has occurred. ?This has been good, it’s made me a bit more competent in Linux, so all is not lost.

On Jul 13, 2021, at 7:44 AM, Ryan Matthew Headley <headley.ryan@...> wrote:

First off, let me apologise.? I apparently passed over your previous mentions of VoiceOver and did not realise until now that you have been using it to read what I have been posting.? I probably could have been a little more careful to make sure it would render properly for you.

There are two ways to setup a job to run at midnight in crontab:

0?? 0?? *?? *?? *?? /path/to/job.sh

In order, those figures are the first minute - in the first hour - of every calendar day - of every month - on every weekday - and the full path to the job.

If your system is running on a Raspberry Pi and your user name is 'pi,' the this would be your crontab entry to update ysfhosts.txt every day at midnight would be:

0?? 0?? *?? *?? *? /home/pi/YSFClients/YSFGateway/YSFHostsupdate.sh

There is also a shorthand for a daily job at midnight.? '@daily' can replace the entire scheduling portion of the line, like this:

@daily???? /home/pi/YSFClients/YSFGateway/YSFHostsupdate.sh


Re: Qnet gateway sounding like Darf Vader?

 

First off, let me apologise.? I apparently passed over your previous mentions of VoiceOver and did not realise until now that you have been using it to read what I have been posting.? I probably could have been a little more careful to make sure it would render properly for you.

There are two ways to setup a job to run at midnight in crontab:

0?? 0?? *?? *?? *?? /path/to/job.sh

In order, those figures are the first minute - in the first hour - of every calendar day - of every month - on every weekday - and the full path to the job.

If your system is running on a Raspberry Pi and your user name is 'pi,' the this would be your crontab entry to update ysfhosts.txt every day at midnight would be:

0?? 0?? *?? *?? *? /home/pi/YSFClients/YSFGateway/YSFHostsupdate.sh

There is also a shorthand for a daily job at midnight.? '@daily' can replace the entire scheduling portion of the line, like this:

@daily???? /home/pi/YSFClients/YSFGateway/YSFHostsupdate.sh


Re: Qnet gateway sounding like Darf Vader?

 

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I’ve found it, and updated the path in the file. ?I see that I can install it into Cron. ?Can you show me what a line would look like to have this run every night at 12:00 A.M? ?Sorry about this, voiceover doesn’t do a good job of translating proper formatting over in to terminal. ?It would be nice if there was some kind of automated script one could use to create a cronjob if needed where it asked you the command, and then just had you input the date/time if it’s execution. ?Trust me I’m filing bugs against voiceover, and it’s use in terminal.

On Jul 9, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Ryan Matthew Headley <headley.ryan@...> wrote:

One other suggestions would be to update your YSFHosts.txt file.? There is a terminal utility in ~/YSFClients/YSFGateway which does this, but must first open the .sh file and edit it to include the proper path.


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what line do I need to look for? ?I’ll give it a go.

On Jul 9, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Ryan Matthew Headley <headley.ryan@...> wrote:

One other suggestions would be to update your YSFHosts.txt file.? There is a terminal utility in ~/YSFClients/YSFGateway which does this, but must first open the .sh file and edit it to include the proper path.


Re: Qnet gateway sounding like Darf Vader?

 

One other suggestions would be to update your YSFHosts.txt file.? There is a terminal utility in ~/YSFClients/YSFGateway which does this, but must first open the .sh file and edit it to include the proper path.


Re: Qnet gateway sounding like Darf Vader?

 

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I have tried some other ySF reflectors, and I get the same result… for some reason it will drop after a few seconds, so there is definitely something weird going on.


On Jul 9, 2021, at 9:28 AM, Justin Mann via <w9fyi@...> wrote:

I’ll definitely give those folks a yell. ?

Thanks so much for your help...
On Jul 9, 2021, at 9:03 AM, Ryan Matthew Headley <headley.ryan@...> wrote:

This log doesn't indicate a problem with your hotspot configuration, but rather a problem with the connection between your hotspot and US-America-Link:

2021-07-08 19:48:50.180 Connect to 32592 - "US-AMERICA-LINK " has been requested by AI5OS???? #Obviously, this indicates your connection request
2021-07-08 19:48:50.186 Opening YSF network connection?????
2021-07-08 19:48:50.187 Opening UDP port on 42000???? #The hotspot is sending a connection request on port 42000
2021-07-08 19:50:50.364 Link has failed, polls lost???? #US-America-Link did not respond to successive polls

Have you tried any other YSF reflectors to see if you could maintain a connection there???

Also, do you have any other hotspots behind the same public IP address which are connect to US-America-Link?? If so, this could be the source of the problem.

I am happy to continue helping, but it is probably worth noting that specific support for MMDVMHost and YSFGateway (not QnetGateway) can be found at?/g/OpenDV/? The configuration of MMDVMHost and YSFGateway are identical whether using QnetGateway for D-Star, or ircddb-gateway for D-Star.? (You would see the configuration files in the OpenDV section as MMDVM.ini instead of MMDVM.qn).? All QnetGateway does with MMDVMHost and YSFGateway is to install them in systemd.



Re: Qnet gateway sounding like Darf Vader?

 

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I’ll definitely give those folks a yell. ?

Thanks so much for your help...

On Jul 9, 2021, at 9:03 AM, Ryan Matthew Headley <headley.ryan@...> wrote:

This log doesn't indicate a problem with your hotspot configuration, but rather a problem with the connection between your hotspot and US-America-Link:

2021-07-08 19:48:50.180 Connect to 32592 - "US-AMERICA-LINK " has been requested by AI5OS???? #Obviously, this indicates your connection request
2021-07-08 19:48:50.186 Opening YSF network connection????
2021-07-08 19:48:50.187 Opening UDP port on 42000???? #The hotspot is sending a connection request on port 42000
2021-07-08 19:50:50.364 Link has failed, polls lost???? #US-America-Link did not respond to successive polls

Have you tried any other YSF reflectors to see if you could maintain a connection there??

Also, do you have any other hotspots behind the same public IP address which are connect to US-America-Link?? If so, this could be the source of the problem.

I am happy to continue helping, but it is probably worth noting that specific support for MMDVMHost and YSFGateway (not QnetGateway) can be found at /g/OpenDV/? The configuration of MMDVMHost and YSFGateway are identical whether using QnetGateway for D-Star, or ircddb-gateway for D-Star.? (You would see the configuration files in the OpenDV section as MMDVM.ini instead of MMDVM.qn).? All QnetGateway does with MMDVMHost and YSFGateway is to install them in systemd.


Re: output power

 

On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 07:07 AM, Ryan Matthew Headley wrote:
I bought a pack of tiny SMA dummy loads that I use on several hotspots.? They still cover my 1/2 acre property, but I don't seem to have any problems with intermod.
Interesting. That should work pretty well. I guess if I had my choice, I'd prefer to dial back the output power via software. And thanks to Tom's recent changes, now I can!?

Come to think of it... my SHARI Allstar node thingy does not have a power adjustment. I think I will seek out a dummy load for that. Thanks for the tip Ryan.


Re: output power

 

I bought a pack of tiny SMA dummy loads that I use on several hotspots.? They still cover my 1/2 acre property, but I don't seem to have any problems with intermod.


Re: Qnet gateway sounding like Darf Vader?

 

This log doesn't indicate a problem with your hotspot configuration, but rather a problem with the connection between your hotspot and US-America-Link:

2021-07-08 19:48:50.180 Connect to 32592 - "US-AMERICA-LINK " has been requested by AI5OS???? #Obviously, this indicates your connection request
2021-07-08 19:48:50.186 Opening YSF network connection????
2021-07-08 19:48:50.187 Opening UDP port on 42000???? #The hotspot is sending a connection request on port 42000
2021-07-08 19:50:50.364 Link has failed, polls lost???? #US-America-Link did not respond to successive polls

Have you tried any other YSF reflectors to see if you could maintain a connection there??

Also, do you have any other hotspots behind the same public IP address which are connect to US-America-Link?? If so, this could be the source of the problem.

I am happy to continue helping, but it is probably worth noting that specific support for MMDVMHost and YSFGateway (not QnetGateway) can be found at /g/OpenDV/? The configuration of MMDVMHost and YSFGateway are identical whether using QnetGateway for D-Star, or ircddb-gateway for D-Star.? (You would see the configuration files in the OpenDV section as MMDVM.ini instead of MMDVM.qn).? All QnetGateway does with MMDVMHost and YSFGateway is to install them in systemd.


Re: output power

 

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I’m really loving the way this works. ?DO have some “nice to haves” that would be cool if they could be implemented. ?HOw do i send those so you can track them?


On Jul 8, 2021, at 8:51 PM, Elden AI7HL via <AI7HL@...> wrote:

On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 12:46 PM, Tom Early wrote:

I think that's one of the golden rules of ham radio, isn't it? Use the least power necessary to get the job done.

Yep, an actual FCC regulation I think. :) ?And good news... I set the RF level to 25 and things are working well. I figure that's close to 1/10th of the full power setting. Thanks very much for making time during your sabbatical.?


Re: output power

 

On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 12:46 PM, Tom Early wrote:

I think that's one of the golden rules of ham radio, isn't it? Use the least power necessary to get the job done.

Yep, an actual FCC regulation I think. :) ?And good news... I set the RF level to 25 and things are working well. I figure that's close to 1/10th of the full power setting. Thanks very much for making time during your sabbatical.?


Re: Qnet gateway sounding like Darf Vader?

 

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THis is what the logs look like, I did some transmitting, but the connection just lost all by itself:
? ? ? ? ? ??Log Menu

USER ? ? ? PID %CPU %MEM? ? VSZ ? RSS TTY? ? ? STAT START ? TIME COMMAND
root ? ? ? 262? 0.1? 0.6 ? 7784? 2784 ?? ? ? ? Ss ? 09:14 ? 0:32 /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/qndtmf
root? ? ? 1788? 3.5? 0.6 ? 4652? 2828 ?? ? ? ? Ss ? 14:26 ? 0:43 /usr/local/bin/MMDVMHost /usr/local/etc/MMDVM.qn
root? ? ? 1840? 2.0? 0.8 ? 5760? 3716 ?? ? ? ? Ss ? 14:26 ? 0:23 /usr/local/bin/YSFGateway /usr/local/etc/YSFGateway.qn
root ? ? 31926? 0.6? 1.2? 49468? 5368 ?? ? ? ? Ssl? 14:06 ? 0:14 /usr/local/bin/qngateway /usr/local/etc/qn.cfg
root ? ? 31975? 1.4? 1.0? 15424? 4528 ?? ? ? ? Ss ? 14:07 ? 0:35 /usr/local/bin/qnlink /usr/local/etc/qn.cfg
root ? ? 32043? 0.0? 0.5 ? 4148? 2624 ?? ? ? ? Ss ? 14:07 ? 0:00 /usr/local/bin/qnrelay /usr/local/etc/qn.cfg

After starting a log, use <Ctrl>+C to stop the log and return to this menu.

?g? : qngateway Log
?l? : qnlink Log
?dt : qndtmf Log
?b? : qnrelay Log
?mb : mmdvm Log
? ? ? dmrgateway is not running
?yb : ysfgateway Log

?q? : quit and return to main menu
***L:og begins*
Command: yb
-- Logs begin at Thu 2021-07-08 09:14:18 CDT. --
Jul 08 14:26:57 ai5os-gw YSFGateway[1840]: I: 2021-07-08 19:26:57.223 The ID of this repeater is 83386
Jul 08 14:26:57 ai5os-gw YSFGateway[1840]: I: 2021-07-08 19:26:57.237 Loaded 2300 FCS room descriptions
Jul 08 14:27:02 ai5os-gw YSFGateway[1840]: I: 2021-07-08 19:27:02.690 Loaded 1029 YSF reflectors
Jul 08 14:27:02 ai5os-gw YSFGateway[1840]: I: 2021-07-08 19:27:02.694 Loaded YSF parrot
Jul 08 14:27:02 ai5os-gw YSFGateway[1840]: I: 2021-07-08 19:27:02.694 Loaded YSF2DMR
Jul 08 14:27:02 ai5os-gw YSFGateway[1840]: I: 2021-07-08 19:27:02.695 Loaded YSF2NXDN
Jul 08 14:27:02 ai5os-gw YSFGateway[1840]: I: 2021-07-08 19:27:02.695 Loaded YSF2P25
Jul 08 14:27:03 ai5os-gw YSFGateway[1840]: M: 2021-07-08 19:27:03.196 No connection startup
Jul 08 14:27:03 ai5os-gw YSFGateway[1840]: M: 2021-07-08 19:27:03.203 Starting YSFGateway-20201108
Jul 08 14:27:03 ai5os-gw YSFGateway[1840]: M: 2021-07-08 19:27:03.206 Link successful to MMDVM
Jul 08 14:48:50 ai5os-gw YSFGateway[1840]: M: 2021-07-08 19:48:50.180 Connect to 32592 - "US-AMERICA-LINK " has been requested by AI5OS
Jul 08 14:48:50 ai5os-gw YSFGateway[1840]: M: 2021-07-08 19:48:50.186 Opening YSF network connection
Jul 08 14:48:50 ai5os-gw YSFGateway[1840]: I: 2021-07-08 19:48:50.187 Opening UDP port on 42000
Jul 08 14:50:50 ai5os-gw YSFGateway[1840]: W: 2021-07-08 19:50:50.364 Link has failed, polls lost
Jul 08 14:50:50 ai5os-gw YSFGateway[1840]: M: 2021-07-08 19:50:50.365 Closing YSF network connection
Jul 08 14:50:50 ai5os-gw YSFGateway[1840]: W: 2021-07-08 19:50:50.365 Link has failed, polls lost
***Logends***


On Jul 8, 2021, at 2:30 PM, Ryan Matthew Headley <headley.ryan@...> wrote:

To talk to YSFGateway, local port should be 3200, and gateway port should be 4200.? Local port refers not to the device, but to MMDVMHost itself.? Even though they run together, MMDVMHost and YSFGateway are two completely separate pieces of software.? Basically, it is the port that MMDVMHost is 'listening' on.? Gateway port the port that YSFGateway is 'listening' on.?

In the YSFGateway configuration, you should basically see the exact opposite:? local port in YSFGateway.qn is 4200, and MMDVMHost port is 3200.?


Re: output power

 

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I think that's one of the golden rules of ham radio, isn't it? Use the least power necessary to get the job done.

On 7/8/21 12:44 PM, Elden AI7HL via groups.io wrote:
On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 12:41 PM, Tom Early wrote:

Yes. MMDVMHost (and DOH) use a floating point value from 0.0 to 100.0, which they then convert into an unsigned character with a range from 0 to 255 that the modem firmware expects.

The QnetGateway software is a little closer to the modem firmware, at least in this case.

Fantastic. Thank you for the extra info. I am anxious to give it a go. I have a veritable hotspot farm in my shack. So reducing power to the minimum necessary is desirable to reduce interference (at least in my mind).?
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Re: output power

 

On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 12:41 PM, Tom Early wrote:

Yes. MMDVMHost (and DOH) use a floating point value from 0.0 to 100.0, which they then convert into an unsigned character with a range from 0 to 255 that the modem firmware expects.

The QnetGateway software is a little closer to the modem firmware, at least in this case.

Fantastic. Thank you for the extra info. I am anxious to give it a go. I have a veritable hotspot farm in my shack. So reducing power to the minimum necessary is desirable to reduce interference (at least in my mind).?