开云体育

ctrl + shift + ? for shortcuts
© 2025 Groups.io

Re: Qnet gateway sounding like Darf Vader?

 

Justin,

From the errors shown in your log, it appears that all of the errors are a result of MMDVMHost and YSFGateway not being able to communicate.?

Would you be able to post ~/MMDVMHost/MMDVM.qn and ~/YSFClients/YSFGateway/YSFGateway.qn ??? If so, I may be a able to offer some help.


Re: Qnet gateway sounding like Darf Vader?

 

开云体育

Further update:
I’ve compiled the Qnet gateway to use the MMDVM as a full duplex hotspot, rx frequency is 439.000 tx is 434.000. ?I’ve attached some logs if that would help.
THanks,
Justin


On Jul 6, 2021, at 11:58 AM, Justin Mann via <w9fyi@...> wrote:

****Update****
I recompiled the Qnet gateway app, choosing the board as a d-star modem, and that appears to work where as using an MMDVM host does not. ?DO full duplex mmdvm boards behave differently?


On Jul 6, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Justin Mann via <w9fyi@...> wrote:

FOlks,
I’ve just compiled my Qnet gateway build on one of the boards put out by n5boc:
aka, Lonestar Semi conductor, and the board is a full duplex board. ?I uninstalled the configuration, created a new configuration indicating that my gateway was using an mmdvm host, and then recompiled the gateway. ?The gateway seems to work fine, but when I key, and unkey my radio, I get a sound that is kind of like some weird monster, and then I hear the confirmation of transmission. ?Is there any setting that I can change to aleviate this?
Thanks,
Justin











Re: Qnet gateway sounding like Darf Vader?

 

****Update****
I recompiled the Qnet gateway app, choosing the board as a d-star modem, and that appears to work where as using an MMDVM host does not. DO full duplex mmdvm boards behave differently?

On Jul 6, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi@...> wrote:

FOlks,
I’ve just compiled my Qnet gateway build on one of the boards put out by n5boc:
aka, Lonestar Semi conductor, and the board is a full duplex board. I uninstalled the configuration, created a new configuration indicating that my gateway was using an mmdvm host, and then recompiled the gateway. The gateway seems to work fine, but when I key, and unkey my radio, I get a sound that is kind of like some weird monster, and then I hear the confirmation of transmission. Is there any setting that I can change to aleviate this?
Thanks,
Justin






Qnet gateway sounding like Darf Vader?

 

FOlks,
I’ve just compiled my Qnet gateway build on one of the boards put out by n5boc:
aka, Lonestar Semi conductor, and the board is a full duplex board. I uninstalled the configuration, created a new configuration indicating that my gateway was using an mmdvm host, and then recompiled the gateway. The gateway seems to work fine, but when I key, and unkey my radio, I get a sound that is kind of like some weird monster, and then I hear the confirmation of transmission. Is there any setting that I can change to aleviate this?
Thanks,
Justin


Re: output power

 

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 11:30 AM, Tom Early wrote:
I would be really surprised if this parameter was linear with power (or linear with voltage). I suggest you decrement in smaller steps and explore the response that way.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the spurious output of the transmitter changed with this setting. You might want to ask KI6ZUM. He probably knows.

Turns out that "transmit level" is not what I'm after. I'm wanting to set the "RF level". But the RF level setting is not available in the expert modem settings in QnetGateway. The RF level is available in the expert settings in both Pi-Star and DOH. Any chance you could make it available in QnetGateway?


weird sound when I started up my hotspot?

 

开云体育

Folks,
I’ve just changed the hotspot that my Qnet gateway is running on from a Zumspot to a full duplex MMDVM board put out by n5vboc. Yesterday everything worked fine, but last night before I went to bed, I moved the hotspot from down here in the shack to upstairs in my bedroom, and connected. ?Now I do have a mesh system, so there is definite wifi access up there, and I doon’t think that there should be an internet connection issue. ?However, when I came down this morning to key up on d-star, I’m getting a sound that sounds like Darf Vader when I unkey. ?Here are a copy of the MMDVM logs if anybody can make sense of this:

***COde begin ? ? ? ? ? ?Log Menu

USER ? ? ? PID %CPU %MEM? ? VSZ ? RSS TTY? ? ? STAT START ? TIME COMMAND
root ? ? ? 261? 0.0? 0.6 ? 4148? 2900 ?? ? ? ? Ss ? 06:29 ? 0:00 /usr/local/bin/qnrelay /usr/local/etc/qn.cfg
root ? ? ? 273? 0.1? 0.6 ? 7784? 2696 ?? ? ? ? Ss ? 06:29 ? 0:01 /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/qndtmf
root ? ? ? 345? 3.6? 0.7 ? 5088? 3216 ?? ? ? ? Ss ? 06:29 ? 0:21 /usr/local/bin/MMDVMHost /usr/local/etc/MMDVM.qn
root ? ? ? 398? 1.6? 1.0? 14988? 4448 ?? ? ? ? Ss ? 06:29 ? 0:09 /usr/local/bin/qnlink /usr/local/etc/qn.cfg
root ? ? ? 486? 2.0? 0.8 ? 5756? 3760 ?? ? ? ? Ss ? 06:30 ? 0:11 /usr/local/bin/YSFGateway /usr/local/etc/YSFGateway.qn
root? ? ? 1051? 0.8? 1.2? 49468? 5288 ?? ? ? ? Ssl? 06:34 ? 0:02 /usr/local/bin/qngateway /usr/local/etc/qn.cfg

After starting a log, use <Ctrl>+C to stop the log and return to this menu.

?g? : qngateway Log
?l? : qnlink Log
?dt : qndtmf Log
?b? : qnrelay Log
?mb : mmdvm Log
? ? ? dmrgateway is not running
?yb : ysfgateway Log

?q? : quit and return to main menu

Command: mb
-- Logs begin at Tue 2021-06-29 06:29:05 CDT. --
Jun 29 06:40:10 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:40:10.542 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:40:13 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:40:13.927 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:40:15 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:40:15.549 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:40:18 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:40:18.933 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:40:20 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:40:20.562 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:40:23 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:40:23.937 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:40:25 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:40:25.567 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:40:28 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:40:28.942 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:40:30 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:40:30.574 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:40:33 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:40:33.952 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:40:35 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:40:35.581 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:40:38 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:40:38.963 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:40:40 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:40:40.588 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:40:43 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:40:43.978 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:40:45 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:40:45.593 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:40:48 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:40:48.986 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:40:50 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:40:50.598 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:40:53 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:40:53.998 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:40:55 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:40:55.616 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:40:59 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:40:59.007 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:41:00 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:41:00.623 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:41:04 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:41:04.019 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:41:05 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:41:05.633 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
^[Jun 29 06:41:09 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:41:09.027 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:41:10 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:41:10.649 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:41:14 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:41:14.040 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:41:15 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:41:15.654 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:41:19 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:41:19.047 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:41:20 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:41:20.663 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:41:24 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:41:24.057 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:41:25 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:41:25.678 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:41:29 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:41:29.069 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:41:30 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:41:30.684 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:41:34 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:41:34.082 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:41:35 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:41:35.688 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:41:39 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:41:39.096 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:41:40 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:41:40.695 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:41:44 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:41:44.107 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:41:45 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:41:45.704 YSF, packet received from an invalid source
Jun 29 06:41:49 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: E: 2021-06-29 11:41:49.121 Error returned from sendto, err: 22
Jun 29 06:41:50 ai5os-gw MMDVMHost[345]: M: 2021-06-29 11:41:50.715 YSF, packet received from an invalid source

***COde end***

I ahve changed a couple of things. ?First, I now have full duplex enabled, both D-star, and YSf gateways are using 434.000. ?I’m not opposed to changing them to different freqnencies if I need to, I was under the impression that Qnetgateway would act upon whatever mode got sent to it. ?I don’t have the YSF gateway starting being connected to any reflector, it just loads, and sits there. ?I did try turning on my Ft-70, and tuning to 434.000, and enabling the wires-x button, trying to determine if that would work at all, but I have assumed that since I don’t have wires-x pass through enabled, that would work… SO any help y’all can give I’d appreciate.
Thankjs,
Justin


Re: values for YSFGateway.qn?

 

I don't see any problems in that config except one small thing.

In the Options line where you book your DG-ID's, each one must be followed by as semicolon for the YCS server will book them.

Options=80;3;35?? will book 80 and 3, and 35 will be ignored.

Options=80;3;35;? will book 80, 3, and 35.?

Also, these bookings are in addition to 79? which are would already have booked as a result of connecting to FCS31079.


Re: values for YSFGateway.qn?

 

开云体育

Can you look at this?
I just would like to have some one who is sighted to take a peak at the syntax of the changes that I think I’ve made:
***Code Begin***
[General]
Callsign=ai5os
#Suffix=RPT
?Suffix=ND
Id=3138451
RptAddress=127.0.0.1
RptPort=3200
LocalAddress=127.0.0.1
LocalPort=4200
WiresXMakeUpper=1
WiresXCommandPassthrough=0
Debug=0
Daemon=0

[Info]
RXFrequency=434000000
TXFrequency=434000000
Power=1
Latitude=30.4551932
Longitude=-978213501
Height=298.7
Name=Austin
Description=Multi-Mode HOtspot

[Log]
# Logging levels, 0=No logging
DisplayLevel=2
FileLevel=2
FilePath=.
FileRoot=YSFGateway
FileRotate=1

[APRS]
Enable=0
Address=127.0.0.1
Port=8673
Description=APRS Description
Suffix=Y
up!

[Network]
Startup=FCS31079
# Startup=QuadNet-Tech-Chat
# book DG-ID for Reflector
Options=80;3;35
InactivityTimeout=10
Revert=0
Debug=0

[YSF Network]
Enable=1
Port=42000
Hosts=/home/pi/YSFClients/YSFGateway/YSFHosts.txt
ReloadTime=60
ParrotAddress=127.0.0.1
ParrotPort=42012
YSF2DMRAddress=127.0.0.1
YSF2DMRPort=42013
YSF2NXDNAddress=127.0.0.1
YSF2NXDNPort=42014
YSF2P25Address=127.0.0.1
YSF2P25Port=42015

[FCS Network]
Enable=1
Rooms=/home/pi/YSFClients/YSFGateway/FCSRooms.txt
Port=42001

[GPSD]
Enable=0
Address=127.0.0.1
Port=2947

[Remote Commands]
Enable=0
Port=6073

***Codse End***

On Jun 20, 2021, at 4:23 PM, Ryan Matthew Headley <headley.ryan@...> wrote:

Hello Justin,

If you are still wondering, I may be able to help.

In several places in YSFGateway.qn, there are configurations for the paths to files necessary for YSFGateway to start and function correctly.?

Line 29 in your file is the path to the log.? YSFGateway will not run unless it can find and write to that path.? The standard log directory is "/var/log".? It is advisable to create another directory with /var/log so that it doesn't get too chaotic in the general log directory.? Fixing this line is a two-step process:? 1) create the directory "/var/log/ysfgateway", then list that as the location on line 29.

Lines 52 and 65 have a similar problem. QnetGateway installs YSFGateway as a service running at the root level, so paths like "./YSFhosts.txt" won't cut it.? If the YSFClients directory is in you home directory, the path would be:? /home/[username]/YSFClients/YSFGateway/YSFHosts.txt"? in line 52.? Line 65 should be same, but point to FCS file.


Re: values for YSFGateway.qn?

 

Hello Justin,

If you are still wondering, I may be able to help.

In several places in YSFGateway.qn, there are configurations for the paths to files necessary for YSFGateway to start and function correctly.?

Line 29 in your file is the path to the log.? YSFGateway will not run unless it can find and write to that path.? The standard log directory is "/var/log".? It is advisable to create another directory with /var/log so that it doesn't get too chaotic in the general log directory.? Fixing this line is a two-step process:? 1) create the directory "/var/log/ysfgateway", then list that as the location on line 29.

Lines 52 and 65 have a similar problem. QnetGateway installs YSFGateway as a service running at the root level, so paths like "./YSFhosts.txt" won't cut it.? If the YSFClients directory is in you home directory, the path would be:? /home/[username]/YSFClients/YSFGateway/YSFHosts.txt"? in line 52.? Line 65 should be same, but point to FCS file.


Re: Issues

 

All fixed. New Raspberry pi, re-burned memory card? Copied card with Windows disc-imager

Burned a 2nd card (backup) all I have to do is record a voice mail message (A net reminder) if I pop in the new card already configured. oh and likely a GP

100%

What is more... I also have 2 pi-stars that kept "losing" my spectrum router.. So I plugged in a BELKING and the Pi-Stars held firm to the belkin (NOTE this is a Raspbery pi issue should not matter what software you run).

?

But the BELKIN kept losing the @#Q$%@#R POS Spectrum router.

Installed "Reload every" extension for chrome. Leave one Chromebook open 24 hours (Well so far it's about 40 hours) every five mintues it pings the Beliking and just renewing the home page... Nothing more.. but it appears that's all it takes. the Belking (Which I do not have a high opinion of) has remained connected for all of those 40 horus.. I'm starting to get real happy here. :)?

Belkin routers "phone home" to make sure they are connected (the ping a server somewhere or so it appears) because if they are connected to a modem that's off line, they know it.. Older D-link routers I have used did not do that (or other makes) but the Belking does? ?This can make it hard to configure a modem.?


Re: Issues

 

The "Voicemail" feature is far as I know a Local only.. Like if both I and my domestic partner (Which I have none of at this time) you put s0 (that's S and a zero) in the UR filel key the mic an yammer.. the file is saved to the card and then you can play it back with a qnremote commaned.

I do am not sure but I do not think I can either send. or receive it save to/from my own radio.

On a repeater a message could be recorded by the Adminstrator or I suspect most any one and then sent from time to time.
IE: "Club Meeting Tonight 8PM Regular Place" which is not far from my use (A regular scheduled net) Crontab plays the file letting me know it's time.

I found the E-mail where Tom explained it to me but it was NOT posted to the group. so I'm hesititant to repost it

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Monday, June 7, 2021, 12:13:37 PM EDT, Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi@...> wrote:


I’ve never tried voicemail. ?I’m curious, can you try linking to xlx94, and tell me if you can use it at all?
Dashboard should be at?


On Jun 7, 2021, at 11:11 AM, John F Davis <wa8yxm@...> wrote:

No just D-star and that in terminal mode... But I was not even getting to that point For some reason on the "Coolspot" (What I call it) Pi I could not get SSH to work for initial set up.. Pulled the card from one of my hotspots and put the card in that. Got it all configured and working.. It is now all re-configured, working, in fact I'm listening to it. I was able to log in via ssh and play my recorded voice-mail file (Though I did have to re-make that file as well) And hopefully I have a fully configured back up card too.

One more task to go but it's minor and won't mess up anything (edit wifi Supplicant file to dual search)

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Monday, June 7, 2021, 11:49:28 AM EDT, Justin Mann via <w9fyi@...> wrote:


John,
Is your build a multi-protocol build, in other words, can you support d-star, DMr, and whatever else, or do you just use d-star?
Just curious.

On Jun 7, 2021, at 10:32 AM, John F Davis <wa8yxm@...> wrote:

Problem solved. IT WAS hardware. I reburned the cards (yet again) copied wi-fi Supplicant and ssh to card exactly as before. popped it in a DIFFERENT Raspberry pi-zero.. one card is configured and working (And I can SSH into it normally now that it loaded SSH) and the other one is ... Getting there (Doing the Make Dash as I type) Configuration of back up card will follow shortly (Iin the alternate PI) then I need to restore pi#2 to it's originally scheduled duties (sudo shutdown, de-power pull card replace with original card for that pi reboot and re-configure)


"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Sunday, June 6, 2021, 05:55:39 AM EDT, John F Davis <wa8yxm@...> wrote:


I tripped over the box with one or two spare Pi-zero's last night today or tomorrow depending on .. this is a busy weekend... I'll give a try to a brand new pi

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Sunday, June 6, 2021, 12:02:42 AM EDT, Justin Mann via <w9fyi@...> wrote:


Yep that is the same issue that I’ve had, working with the wifi builder that is on the ?website. ?I was able to find another pi with an ethernet connection. ?However, I think were I in this situation again, I would find a usb-c ethernet adapter, and connect it to the pi-0 at least until you can get the wi-fi enabled. ?Then you can stick it back into the junk drawer until you need it the next time.
I hope this helps,
Justin


On Jun 5, 2021, at 6:23 PM, John F Davis <wa8yxm@...> wrote:

The router seeds it. both routers see it depending on which wifi_Supplicant I use. But that's as far as it goes.

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Saturday, June 5, 2021, 06:14:16 PM EDT, Justin Mann via <w9fyi@...> wrote:


Trust me, I can totally relate, becuase I knew I had imaged the thing correctly, and yet it refused to connect to my wifi.
??
I fought for days trying to get this pi working for me… It wasn’t fun

On Jun 5, 2021, at 3:45 PM, Tom Early <n7tae@...> wrote:

I agree, if you have a new OS on a Pi Zero W and can see it on your home router, then that pretty much has to mean it installed your wpa_supplicant.conf file okay, so there must be a problem with ssh. I don't think it particularly matters, but when I create the /boot/ssh file, it's just an empty file. Be careful not to add some trailing white-space on the filename, and, of course, no filename extensions that sometimes windows can help but adding.

Unfortunately, you only get one shot at this, once your system does it's initial boot, you can't do the /boot/ssh trick again to enable ssh on a card that has already booted. As a postmortem, you can pop the card and see if the /boot/ssh file is still there, because if it is, then maybe you can look it over carefully to try to figure out what went wrong.

Since you can't get in from either your Windows putty app or your chromebook, I think you have to start over again.

One more thing, according to your original message, it seems like you making the card a desktop OS. You should use the "lite" (no-gui) OS. Then after you've done all you need to do with raspi-config, you'll need to "sudo apt install build-essential git" to install git, g++ and make because not all of these are on the "lite" OS.





Re: Issues

 

开云体育

I’ve never tried voicemail. ?I’m curious, can you try linking to xlx94, and tell me if you can use it at all?
Dashboard should be at?


On Jun 7, 2021, at 11:11 AM, John F Davis <wa8yxm@...> wrote:

No just D-star and that in terminal mode... But I was not even getting to that point For some reason on the "Coolspot" (What I call it) Pi I could not get SSH to work for initial set up.. Pulled the card from one of my hotspots and put the card in that. Got it all configured and working.. It is now all re-configured, working, in fact I'm listening to it. I was able to log in via ssh and play my recorded voice-mail file (Though I did have to re-make that file as well) And hopefully I have a fully configured back up card too.

One more task to go but it's minor and won't mess up anything (edit wifi Supplicant file to dual search)

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Monday, June 7, 2021, 11:49:28 AM EDT, Justin Mann via <w9fyi@...> wrote:


John,
Is your build a multi-protocol build, in other words, can you support d-star, DMr, and whatever else, or do you just use d-star?
Just curious.

On Jun 7, 2021, at 10:32 AM, John F Davis <wa8yxm@...> wrote:

Problem solved. IT WAS hardware. I reburned the cards (yet again) copied wi-fi Supplicant and ssh to card exactly as before. popped it in a DIFFERENT Raspberry pi-zero.. one card is configured and working (And I can SSH into it normally now that it loaded SSH) and the other one is ... Getting there (Doing the Make Dash as I type) Configuration of back up card will follow shortly (Iin the alternate PI) then I need to restore pi#2 to it's originally scheduled duties (sudo shutdown, de-power pull card replace with original card for that pi reboot and re-configure)


"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Sunday, June 6, 2021, 05:55:39 AM EDT, John F Davis <wa8yxm@...> wrote:


I tripped over the box with one or two spare Pi-zero's last night today or tomorrow depending on .. this is a busy weekend... I'll give a try to a brand new pi

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Sunday, June 6, 2021, 12:02:42 AM EDT, Justin Mann via <w9fyi@...> wrote:


Yep that is the same issue that I’ve had, working with the wifi builder that is on the ?website. ?I was able to find another pi with an ethernet connection. ?However, I think were I in this situation again, I would find a usb-c ethernet adapter, and connect it to the pi-0 at least until you can get the wi-fi enabled. ?Then you can stick it back into the junk drawer until you need it the next time.
I hope this helps,
Justin


On Jun 5, 2021, at 6:23 PM, John F Davis <wa8yxm@...> wrote:

The router seeds it. both routers see it depending on which wifi_Supplicant I use. But that's as far as it goes.

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Saturday, June 5, 2021, 06:14:16 PM EDT, Justin Mann via <w9fyi@...> wrote:


Trust me, I can totally relate, becuase I knew I had imaged the thing correctly, and yet it refused to connect to my wifi.
??
I fought for days trying to get this pi working for me… It wasn’t fun

On Jun 5, 2021, at 3:45 PM, Tom Early <n7tae@...> wrote:

I agree, if you have a new OS on a Pi Zero W and can see it on your home router, then that pretty much has to mean it installed your wpa_supplicant.conf file okay, so there must be a problem with ssh. I don't think it particularly matters, but when I create the /boot/ssh file, it's just an empty file. Be careful not to add some trailing white-space on the filename, and, of course, no filename extensions that sometimes windows can help but adding.

Unfortunately, you only get one shot at this, once your system does it's initial boot, you can't do the /boot/ssh trick again to enable ssh on a card that has already booted. As a postmortem, you can pop the card and see if the /boot/ssh file is still there, because if it is, then maybe you can look it over carefully to try to figure out what went wrong.

Since you can't get in from either your Windows putty app or your chromebook, I think you have to start over again.

One more thing, according to your original message, it seems like you making the card a desktop OS. You should use the "lite" (no-gui) OS. Then after you've done all you need to do with raspi-config, you'll need to "sudo apt install build-essential git" to install git, g++ and make because not all of these are on the "lite" OS.





Re: Issues

 

No just D-star and that in terminal mode... But I was not even getting to that point For some reason on the "Coolspot" (What I call it) Pi I could not get SSH to work for initial set up.. Pulled the card from one of my hotspots and put the card in that. Got it all configured and working.. It is now all re-configured, working, in fact I'm listening to it. I was able to log in via ssh and play my recorded voice-mail file (Though I did have to re-make that file as well) And hopefully I have a fully configured back up card too.

One more task to go but it's minor and won't mess up anything (edit wifi Supplicant file to dual search)

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Monday, June 7, 2021, 11:49:28 AM EDT, Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi@...> wrote:


John,
Is your build a multi-protocol build, in other words, can you support d-star, DMr, and whatever else, or do you just use d-star?
Just curious.

On Jun 7, 2021, at 10:32 AM, John F Davis <wa8yxm@...> wrote:

Problem solved. IT WAS hardware. I reburned the cards (yet again) copied wi-fi Supplicant and ssh to card exactly as before. popped it in a DIFFERENT Raspberry pi-zero.. one card is configured and working (And I can SSH into it normally now that it loaded SSH) and the other one is ... Getting there (Doing the Make Dash as I type) Configuration of back up card will follow shortly (Iin the alternate PI) then I need to restore pi#2 to it's originally scheduled duties (sudo shutdown, de-power pull card replace with original card for that pi reboot and re-configure)


"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Sunday, June 6, 2021, 05:55:39 AM EDT, John F Davis <wa8yxm@...> wrote:


I tripped over the box with one or two spare Pi-zero's last night today or tomorrow depending on .. this is a busy weekend... I'll give a try to a brand new pi

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Sunday, June 6, 2021, 12:02:42 AM EDT, Justin Mann via <w9fyi@...> wrote:


Yep that is the same issue that I’ve had, working with the wifi builder that is on the ?website. ?I was able to find another pi with an ethernet connection. ?However, I think were I in this situation again, I would find a usb-c ethernet adapter, and connect it to the pi-0 at least until you can get the wi-fi enabled. ?Then you can stick it back into the junk drawer until you need it the next time.
I hope this helps,
Justin


On Jun 5, 2021, at 6:23 PM, John F Davis <wa8yxm@...> wrote:

The router seeds it. both routers see it depending on which wifi_Supplicant I use. But that's as far as it goes.

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Saturday, June 5, 2021, 06:14:16 PM EDT, Justin Mann via <w9fyi@...> wrote:


Trust me, I can totally relate, becuase I knew I had imaged the thing correctly, and yet it refused to connect to my wifi.
??
I fought for days trying to get this pi working for me… It wasn’t fun

On Jun 5, 2021, at 3:45 PM, Tom Early <n7tae@...> wrote:

I agree, if you have a new OS on a Pi Zero W and can see it on your home router, then that pretty much has to mean it installed your wpa_supplicant.conf file okay, so there must be a problem with ssh. I don't think it particularly matters, but when I create the /boot/ssh file, it's just an empty file. Be careful not to add some trailing white-space on the filename, and, of course, no filename extensions that sometimes windows can help but adding.

Unfortunately, you only get one shot at this, once your system does it's initial boot, you can't do the /boot/ssh trick again to enable ssh on a card that has already booted. As a postmortem, you can pop the card and see if the /boot/ssh file is still there, because if it is, then maybe you can look it over carefully to try to figure out what went wrong.

Since you can't get in from either your Windows putty app or your chromebook, I think you have to start over again.

One more thing, according to your original message, it seems like you making the card a desktop OS. You should use the "lite" (no-gui) OS. Then after you've done all you need to do with raspi-config, you'll need to "sudo apt install build-essential git" to install git, g++ and make because not all of these are on the "lite" OS.




Re: Issues

 

开云体育

John,
Is your build a multi-protocol build, in other words, can you support d-star, DMr, and whatever else, or do you just use d-star?
Just curious.

On Jun 7, 2021, at 10:32 AM, John F Davis <wa8yxm@...> wrote:

Problem solved. IT WAS hardware. I reburned the cards (yet again) copied wi-fi Supplicant and ssh to card exactly as before. popped it in a DIFFERENT Raspberry pi-zero.. one card is configured and working (And I can SSH into it normally now that it loaded SSH) and the other one is ... Getting there (Doing the Make Dash as I type) Configuration of back up card will follow shortly (Iin the alternate PI) then I need to restore pi#2 to it's originally scheduled duties (sudo shutdown, de-power pull card replace with original card for that pi reboot and re-configure)


"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Sunday, June 6, 2021, 05:55:39 AM EDT, John F Davis <wa8yxm@...> wrote:


I tripped over the box with one or two spare Pi-zero's last night today or tomorrow depending on .. this is a busy weekend... I'll give a try to a brand new pi

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Sunday, June 6, 2021, 12:02:42 AM EDT, Justin Mann via <w9fyi@...> wrote:


Yep that is the same issue that I’ve had, working with the wifi builder that is on the ?website. ?I was able to find another pi with an ethernet connection. ?However, I think were I in this situation again, I would find a usb-c ethernet adapter, and connect it to the pi-0 at least until you can get the wi-fi enabled. ?Then you can stick it back into the junk drawer until you need it the next time.
I hope this helps,
Justin


On Jun 5, 2021, at 6:23 PM, John F Davis <wa8yxm@...> wrote:

The router seeds it. both routers see it depending on which wifi_Supplicant I use. But that's as far as it goes.

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Saturday, June 5, 2021, 06:14:16 PM EDT, Justin Mann via <w9fyi@...> wrote:


Trust me, I can totally relate, becuase I knew I had imaged the thing correctly, and yet it refused to connect to my wifi.
??
I fought for days trying to get this pi working for me… It wasn’t fun

On Jun 5, 2021, at 3:45 PM, Tom Early <n7tae@...> wrote:

I agree, if you have a new OS on a Pi Zero W and can see it on your home router, then that pretty much has to mean it installed your wpa_supplicant.conf file okay, so there must be a problem with ssh. I don't think it particularly matters, but when I create the /boot/ssh file, it's just an empty file. Be careful not to add some trailing white-space on the filename, and, of course, no filename extensions that sometimes windows can help but adding.

Unfortunately, you only get one shot at this, once your system does it's initial boot, you can't do the /boot/ssh trick again to enable ssh on a card that has already booted. As a postmortem, you can pop the card and see if the /boot/ssh file is still there, because if it is, then maybe you can look it over carefully to try to figure out what went wrong.

Since you can't get in from either your Windows putty app or your chromebook, I think you have to start over again.

One more thing, according to your original message, it seems like you making the card a desktop OS. You should use the "lite" (no-gui) OS. Then after you've done all you need to do with raspi-config, you'll need to "sudo apt install build-essential git" to install git, g++ and make because not all of these are on the "lite" OS.




Re: Issues

 

Problem solved. IT WAS hardware. I reburned the cards (yet again) copied wi-fi Supplicant and ssh to card exactly as before. popped it in a DIFFERENT Raspberry pi-zero.. one card is configured and working (And I can SSH into it normally now that it loaded SSH) and the other one is ... Getting there (Doing the Make Dash as I type) Configuration of back up card will follow shortly (Iin the alternate PI) then I need to restore pi#2 to it's originally scheduled duties (sudo shutdown, de-power pull card replace with original card for that pi reboot and re-configure)


"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Sunday, June 6, 2021, 05:55:39 AM EDT, John F Davis <wa8yxm@...> wrote:


I tripped over the box with one or two spare Pi-zero's last night today or tomorrow depending on .. this is a busy weekend... I'll give a try to a brand new pi

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Sunday, June 6, 2021, 12:02:42 AM EDT, Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi@...> wrote:


Yep that is the same issue that I’ve had, working with the wifi builder that is on the ?website. ?I was able to find another pi with an ethernet connection. ?However, I think were I in this situation again, I would find a usb-c ethernet adapter, and connect it to the pi-0 at least until you can get the wi-fi enabled. ?Then you can stick it back into the junk drawer until you need it the next time.
I hope this helps,
Justin


On Jun 5, 2021, at 6:23 PM, John F Davis <wa8yxm@...> wrote:

The router seeds it. both routers see it depending on which wifi_Supplicant I use. But that's as far as it goes.

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Saturday, June 5, 2021, 06:14:16 PM EDT, Justin Mann via <w9fyi@...> wrote:


Trust me, I can totally relate, becuase I knew I had imaged the thing correctly, and yet it refused to connect to my wifi.
??
I fought for days trying to get this pi working for me… It wasn’t fun

On Jun 5, 2021, at 3:45 PM, Tom Early <n7tae@...> wrote:

I agree, if you have a new OS on a Pi Zero W and can see it on your home router, then that pretty much has to mean it installed your wpa_supplicant.conf file okay, so there must be a problem with ssh. I don't think it particularly matters, but when I create the /boot/ssh file, it's just an empty file. Be careful not to add some trailing white-space on the filename, and, of course, no filename extensions that sometimes windows can help but adding.

Unfortunately, you only get one shot at this, once your system does it's initial boot, you can't do the /boot/ssh trick again to enable ssh on a card that has already booted. As a postmortem, you can pop the card and see if the /boot/ssh file is still there, because if it is, then maybe you can look it over carefully to try to figure out what went wrong.

Since you can't get in from either your Windows putty app or your chromebook, I think you have to start over again.

One more thing, according to your original message, it seems like you making the card a desktop OS. You should use the "lite" (no-gui) OS. Then after you've done all you need to do with raspi-config, you'll need to "sudo apt install build-essential git" to install git, g++ and make because not all of these are on the "lite" OS.



Re: Issues

 

I tripped over the box with one or two spare Pi-zero's last night today or tomorrow depending on .. this is a busy weekend... I'll give a try to a brand new pi

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Sunday, June 6, 2021, 12:02:42 AM EDT, Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi@...> wrote:


Yep that is the same issue that I’ve had, working with the wifi builder that is on the ?website. ?I was able to find another pi with an ethernet connection. ?However, I think were I in this situation again, I would find a usb-c ethernet adapter, and connect it to the pi-0 at least until you can get the wi-fi enabled. ?Then you can stick it back into the junk drawer until you need it the next time.
I hope this helps,
Justin


On Jun 5, 2021, at 6:23 PM, John F Davis <wa8yxm@...> wrote:

The router seeds it. both routers see it depending on which wifi_Supplicant I use. But that's as far as it goes.

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Saturday, June 5, 2021, 06:14:16 PM EDT, Justin Mann via <w9fyi@...> wrote:


Trust me, I can totally relate, becuase I knew I had imaged the thing correctly, and yet it refused to connect to my wifi.
??
I fought for days trying to get this pi working for me… It wasn’t fun

On Jun 5, 2021, at 3:45 PM, Tom Early <n7tae@...> wrote:

I agree, if you have a new OS on a Pi Zero W and can see it on your home router, then that pretty much has to mean it installed your wpa_supplicant.conf file okay, so there must be a problem with ssh. I don't think it particularly matters, but when I create the /boot/ssh file, it's just an empty file. Be careful not to add some trailing white-space on the filename, and, of course, no filename extensions that sometimes windows can help but adding.

Unfortunately, you only get one shot at this, once your system does it's initial boot, you can't do the /boot/ssh trick again to enable ssh on a card that has already booted. As a postmortem, you can pop the card and see if the /boot/ssh file is still there, because if it is, then maybe you can look it over carefully to try to figure out what went wrong.

Since you can't get in from either your Windows putty app or your chromebook, I think you have to start over again.

One more thing, according to your original message, it seems like you making the card a desktop OS. You should use the "lite" (no-gui) OS. Then after you've done all you need to do with raspi-config, you'll need to "sudo apt install build-essential git" to install git, g++ and make because not all of these are on the "lite" OS.



Re: Issues

 

开云体育

Yep that is the same issue that I’ve had, working with the wifi builder that is on the ?website. ?I was able to find another pi with an ethernet connection. ?However, I think were I in this situation again, I would find a usb-c ethernet adapter, and connect it to the pi-0 at least until you can get the wi-fi enabled. ?Then you can stick it back into the junk drawer until you need it the next time.
I hope this helps,
Justin


On Jun 5, 2021, at 6:23 PM, John F Davis <wa8yxm@...> wrote:

The router seeds it. both routers see it depending on which wifi_Supplicant I use. But that's as far as it goes.

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Saturday, June 5, 2021, 06:14:16 PM EDT, Justin Mann via <w9fyi@...> wrote:


Trust me, I can totally relate, becuase I knew I had imaged the thing correctly, and yet it refused to connect to my wifi.
??
I fought for days trying to get this pi working for me… It wasn’t fun

On Jun 5, 2021, at 3:45 PM, Tom Early <n7tae@...> wrote:

I agree, if you have a new OS on a Pi Zero W and can see it on your home router, then that pretty much has to mean it installed your wpa_supplicant.conf file okay, so there must be a problem with ssh. I don't think it particularly matters, but when I create the /boot/ssh file, it's just an empty file. Be careful not to add some trailing white-space on the filename, and, of course, no filename extensions that sometimes windows can help but adding.

Unfortunately, you only get one shot at this, once your system does it's initial boot, you can't do the /boot/ssh trick again to enable ssh on a card that has already booted. As a postmortem, you can pop the card and see if the /boot/ssh file is still there, because if it is, then maybe you can look it over carefully to try to figure out what went wrong.

Since you can't get in from either your Windows putty app or your chromebook, I think you have to start over again.

One more thing, according to your original message, it seems like you making the card a desktop OS. You should use the "lite" (no-gui) OS. Then after you've done all you need to do with raspi-config, you'll need to "sudo apt install build-essential git" to install git, g++ and make because not all of these are on the "lite" OS.



Re: Issues

 

The router seeds it. both routers see it depending on which wifi_Supplicant I use. But that's as far as it goes.

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Saturday, June 5, 2021, 06:14:16 PM EDT, Justin Mann via groups.io <w9fyi@...> wrote:


Trust me, I can totally relate, becuase I knew I had imaged the thing correctly, and yet it refused to connect to my wifi.
??
I fought for days trying to get this pi working for me… It wasn’t fun

On Jun 5, 2021, at 3:45 PM, Tom Early <n7tae@...> wrote:

I agree, if you have a new OS on a Pi Zero W and can see it on your home router, then that pretty much has to mean it installed your wpa_supplicant.conf file okay, so there must be a problem with ssh. I don't think it particularly matters, but when I create the /boot/ssh file, it's just an empty file. Be careful not to add some trailing white-space on the filename, and, of course, no filename extensions that sometimes windows can help but adding.

Unfortunately, you only get one shot at this, once your system does it's initial boot, you can't do the /boot/ssh trick again to enable ssh on a card that has already booted. As a postmortem, you can pop the card and see if the /boot/ssh file is still there, because if it is, then maybe you can look it over carefully to try to figure out what went wrong.

Since you can't get in from either your Windows putty app or your chromebook, I think you have to start over again.

One more thing, according to your original message, it seems like you making the card a desktop OS. You should use the "lite" (no-gui) OS. Then after you've done all you need to do with raspi-config, you'll need to "sudo apt install build-essential git" to install git, g++ and make because not all of these are on the "lite" OS.


Re: Issues

 

I am beginning to suspect hardware but will double check the file name I've done it before with 'ssh' as the conts as well as the name but I've tried both ways with this and no joy.

Sadly the pi's do not respond to PING even the ones working

"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" Note I am not a doctor, I don't even play one on television John F Davis

On Saturday, June 5, 2021, 04:45:18 PM EDT, Tom Early <n7tae@...> wrote:


I agree, if you have a new OS on a Pi Zero W and can see it on your home router, then that pretty much has to mean it installed your wpa_supplicant.conf file okay, so there must be a problem with ssh. I don't think it particularly matters, but when I create the /boot/ssh file, it's just an empty file. Be careful not to add some trailing white-space on the filename, and, of course, no filename extensions that sometimes windows can help but adding.

Unfortunately, you only get one shot at this, once your system does it's initial boot, you can't do the /boot/ssh trick again to enable ssh on a card that has already booted. As a postmortem, you can pop the card and see if the /boot/ssh file is still there, because if it is, then maybe you can look it over carefully to try to figure out what went wrong.

Since you can't get in from either your Windows putty app or your chromebook, I think you have to start over again.

One more thing, according to your original message, it seems like you making the card a desktop OS. You should use the "lite" (no-gui) OS. Then after you've done all you need to do with raspi-config, you'll need to "sudo apt install build-essential git" to install git, g++ and make because not all of these are on the "lite" OS.


Re: Issues

 

开云体育

Trust me, I can totally relate, becuase I knew I had imaged the thing correctly, and yet it refused to connect to my wifi.
??
I fought for days trying to get this pi working for me… It wasn’t fun

On Jun 5, 2021, at 3:45 PM, Tom Early <n7tae@...> wrote:

I agree, if you have a new OS on a Pi Zero W and can see it on your home router, then that pretty much has to mean it installed your wpa_supplicant.conf file okay, so there must be a problem with ssh. I don't think it particularly matters, but when I create the /boot/ssh file, it's just an empty file. Be careful not to add some trailing white-space on the filename, and, of course, no filename extensions that sometimes windows can help but adding.

Unfortunately, you only get one shot at this, once your system does it's initial boot, you can't do the /boot/ssh trick again to enable ssh on a card that has already booted. As a postmortem, you can pop the card and see if the /boot/ssh file is still there, because if it is, then maybe you can look it over carefully to try to figure out what went wrong.

Since you can't get in from either your Windows putty app or your chromebook, I think you have to start over again.

One more thing, according to your original message, it seems like you making the card a desktop OS. You should use the "lite" (no-gui) OS. Then after you've done all you need to do with raspi-config, you'll need to "sudo apt install build-essential git" to install git, g++ and make because not all of these are on the "lite" OS.