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Re: QSI and DirectShow

 

Hi Nicola,

Why is using the full image train crucial? I only use Metaguide for collimation, and simply replace my QSI 683 with a webcam or the Altair camera that works. Perhaps you are saying that other items in your image train effect the collimation, so you are trying to compensate for that?

But that could create its own problems, surely it's better to have the main instrument properly collimated, then make sure the downstream items are in line and at right angles to the telescope axis, perhaps by using screwed adapters.

Incidentally I've ordered the Lycander 720P webcam for a bit of fun - hardly breaking the Bank at ?14.26 ;-) It will arrive tomorrow, and I'll see what it's like for modifying - I already have a 12mm thread eyepiece adapter on my venerable Toucam, but of course that camera doesn't work with Windows7 upwards (I use XP in my Observatory), and I'd need to reflash it and use a different driver - can't be bothered to go through all that and maybe ruin it completely!

Cheers,

Peter.


Approx. 55 deg N, 2 deg W (Northumberland, UK)

On 06/06/2024 10:18, Pico de Paperis via groups.io wrote:
As I'd like to use Metaguide for collimation, it is crucial to have the full image train set up, therefore there can't be any webcam in the image train. This is why I was wondering if there was any chance to use it straight?away with my QSI.
Cheers
Nicola
Il giorno gio 6 giu 2024 alle ore 02:42 Peter Vasey via groups.io <> <petevasey@... <mailto:[email protected]>> ha scritto:
Just to add to the below, obviously I don't have this next camera, but
if it does have the ribbing round the lens shown in the image, the lens
might unscrew so save having to take the camera apart:
<>
And it's cheaper!
Peter
<>
Approx. 55 deg N, 2 deg W? (Northumberland, UK)
On 06/06/2024 00:47, Peter Vasey via groups.io <> wrote:
> Why do you want to use your QSI with Metaguide?? It's not really
> intended as a video camera.
>
> The most economical solution is a basic webcam with the lens
replaced by
> an eyepiece adapter.? Also some (but not all) guide/imaging
cameras will
> work with Metaguide.? My Altair GPCAM2 224C is ok, but not my
GPCAM3 178M.
>
> This video might help, showing how to convert a Logitech C270 webcam:
>
>
<>
>
> Camera:
>
<>
>
> Adapter:
>
<>
>
> I expect even cheaper webcams could be converted with a bit of
> ingenuity!? Might even have a 12mm thread.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter
>
> <>
> Approx. 55 deg N, 2 deg W? (Northumberland, UK)
>
> On 05/06/2024 11:23, Pico de Paperis via groups.io
<> wrote:
>> Hello QSIers,
>>
>> do you know if it is possible to use Windows DirectShow with a
QSI683wsg?
>> Would like to use Metaguide to collimate....
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Nicola
>>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Nicola
Sky Monsters - <>


Re: QSI and DirectShow

 

As I'd like to use Metaguide for collimation, it is crucial to have the full image train set up, therefore there can't be any webcam in the image train. This is why I was wondering if there was any chance to use it straight?away with my QSI.

Cheers
Nicola


Il giorno gio 6 giu 2024 alle ore 02:42 Peter Vasey via <petevasey=[email protected]> ha scritto:
Just to add to the below, obviously I don't have this next camera, but
if it does have the ribbing round the lens shown in the image, the lens
might unscrew so save having to take the camera apart:



And it's cheaper!

Peter


Approx. 55 deg N, 2 deg W? (Northumberland, UK)

On 06/06/2024 00:47, Peter Vasey via wrote:
> Why do you want to use your QSI with Metaguide?? It's not really
> intended as a video camera.
>
> The most economical solution is a basic webcam with the lens replaced by
> an eyepiece adapter.? Also some (but not all) guide/imaging cameras will
> work with Metaguide.? My Altair GPCAM2 224C is ok, but not my GPCAM3 178M.
>
> This video might help, showing how to convert a Logitech C270 webcam:
>
>
>
> Camera:
>
>
> Adapter:
>
>
> I expect even cheaper webcams could be converted with a bit of
> ingenuity!? Might even have a 12mm thread.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter
>
>
> Approx. 55 deg N, 2 deg W? (Northumberland, UK)
>
> On 05/06/2024 11:23, Pico de Paperis via wrote:
>> Hello QSIers,
>>
>> do you know if it is possible to use Windows DirectShow with a QSI683wsg?
>> Would like to use Metaguide to collimate....
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Nicola
>>
>
>
>
>
>







--
Nicola
Sky Monsters -


Re: QSI and DirectShow

 

Just to add to the below, obviously I don't have this next camera, but if it does have the ribbing round the lens shown in the image, the lens might unscrew so save having to take the camera apart:



And it's cheaper!

Peter


Approx. 55 deg N, 2 deg W (Northumberland, UK)

On 06/06/2024 00:47, Peter Vasey via groups.io wrote:
Why do you want to use your QSI with Metaguide?? It's not really intended as a video camera.
The most economical solution is a basic webcam with the lens replaced by an eyepiece adapter.? Also some (but not all) guide/imaging cameras will work with Metaguide.? My Altair GPCAM2 224C is ok, but not my GPCAM3 178M.
This video might help, showing how to convert a Logitech C270 webcam:

Camera:

Adapter:

I expect even cheaper webcams could be converted with a bit of ingenuity!? Might even have a 12mm thread.
Cheers,
Peter

Approx. 55 deg N, 2 deg W? (Northumberland, UK)
On 05/06/2024 11:23, Pico de Paperis via groups.io wrote:
Hello QSIers,

do you know if it is possible to use Windows DirectShow with a QSI683wsg?
Would like to use Metaguide to collimate....

Thanks!
Nicola


Re: QSI and DirectShow

 

Why do you want to use your QSI with Metaguide? It's not really intended as a video camera.

The most economical solution is a basic webcam with the lens replaced by an eyepiece adapter. Also some (but not all) guide/imaging cameras will work with Metaguide. My Altair GPCAM2 224C is ok, but not my GPCAM3 178M.

This video might help, showing how to convert a Logitech C270 webcam:



Camera:


Adapter:


I expect even cheaper webcams could be converted with a bit of ingenuity! Might even have a 12mm thread.

Cheers,

Peter


Approx. 55 deg N, 2 deg W (Northumberland, UK)

On 05/06/2024 11:23, Pico de Paperis via groups.io wrote:
Hello QSIers,
do you know if it is possible to use Windows DirectShow with a QSI683wsg?
Would like to use Metaguide to collimate....
Thanks!
Nicola


QSI and DirectShow

 

Hello QSIers,

do you know if it is possible to use Windows DirectShow with a QSI683wsg?
Would like to use Metaguide to collimate....

Thanks!
Nicola


Re: NGC 4618 and 4625

 

Thanks, Bernhard!


Re: NGC 4618 and 4625

 

Hello Bruce,

Fascinating galaxy pair!
Excellent work

best,
Bernhard Hubl


Re: NGC 4618 and 4625

 

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Thanks, Barry!

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Bruce

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barry Schellenberg
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 1:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [QSI-CCD] NGC 4618 and 4625

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What a wonderful composition of this target. I am always amazed with the level of color richness you attain in your processing.?

Well done!

Barry


Re: NGC 4618 and 4625

 

What a wonderful composition of this target. I am always amazed with the level of color richness you attain in your processing.?

Well done!

Barry


Re: NGC 4618 and 4625

 

Thanks Geof and Kevin, much appreciated.

Bruce W.


Re: NGC 4618 and 4625

 

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That's excellent Bruce,
I've not heard of this pair, but you've presented them superbly. I just checked them out in Stellarium and perhaps one for me to consider as they would fit nicely on my QSI583 sensor through the C14 with Optec x0.7 tele-compressor.

Geof


From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of bw <bw_msg01@...>
Sent:?23 May 2024 21:20
To:[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?[QSI-CCD] NGC 4618 and 4625
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NGC 4618 (left) and 4625 (right) are two single-armed Magellanic spiral galaxies, so-named because of their resemblance to the single-armed Large Magellanic Cloud. ?Their asymmetric appearance suggests a strong gravitational interaction between the two. ?But professional observations indicate the level of interaction has been modest, suggesting instead that the single-armed structures are created by processes intrinsic to each galaxy.

The image was captured during 4 nights in April 2024 from SkyPi Remote Observatory using a 12.5" PlaneWave scope and a QSI-640ws camera at f/8 for a final LRGB integration of 17.3 hours.



Thanks for looking,
Bruce W.


Re: NGC 4618 and 4625

 

A wonderful image Bruce!? Lovely detail.

Clear skies,
Kevin


From: "bw msg01" <bw_msg01@...>
To: "QSI-CCD" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 4:20:22 PM
Subject: [QSI-CCD] NGC 4618 and 4625

NGC 4618 (left) and 4625 (right) are two single-armed Magellanic spiral galaxies, so-named because of their resemblance to the single-armed Large Magellanic Cloud. ?Their asymmetric appearance suggests a strong gravitational interaction between the two. ?But professional observations indicate the level of interaction has been modest, suggesting instead that the single-armed structures are created by processes intrinsic to each galaxy.

The image was captured during 4 nights in April 2024 from SkyPi Remote Observatory using a 12.5" PlaneWave scope and a QSI-640ws camera at f/8 for a final LRGB integration of 17.3 hours.



Thanks for looking,
Bruce W.


NGC 4618 and 4625

 

NGC 4618 (left) and 4625 (right) are two single-armed Magellanic spiral galaxies, so-named because of their resemblance to the single-armed Large Magellanic Cloud. ?Their asymmetric appearance suggests a strong gravitational interaction between the two. ?But professional observations indicate the level of interaction has been modest, suggesting instead that the single-armed structures are created by processes intrinsic to each galaxy.

The image was captured during 4 nights in April 2024 from SkyPi Remote Observatory using a 12.5" PlaneWave scope and a QSI-640ws camera at f/8 for a final LRGB integration of 17.3 hours.



Thanks for looking,
Bruce W.


Re: NINA and QSI cameras

 

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Yes, this is known, and where is the 32bit version?

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Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Rainer
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2024 02:27
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [QSI-CCD] NINA and QSI cameras

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Here is the LInk to NINA Download


Re: NINA and QSI cameras

Rainer
 

Here is the LInk to NINA Download




Re: NINA and QSI cameras

 

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Point is, there is no 32bit version of NINA available, at least on the current website. Rather it is recommended to connect via ASCOM Device Hub. Will need to check for myself, as I have the same QSI-problem.

BR

Wolfgang

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Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von stevei via groups.io
Gesendet: Montag, 20. Mai 2024 15:05
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [QSI-CCD] NINA and QSI cameras

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IIRC the QSI driver 32 bit so you have to download the 32 bit NINA package.
I am almost sure that is how I got mine to work.


Re: NINA and QSI cameras

Rainer
 

Hi,

"can not get going" means I can not take images

I have the lates NINA versi¨®n 3.0 installed

Yes I can see the camera in the field where to choose the camera

I have Windows 10 Pro

Let me check which driver I have

Will come back after having tried it. Maybe it will take some time. The climate is unbearable at the moment. Ambient temperature around 38¡ãC and sometimes even more...

Thanks and regards Rainer


Re: NINA and QSI cameras

 

Rainer,
I can try to help - it will come with some questions to help understand your statement 'can not get going.'
Which version of NINA are you using? I'd recommend updating to the latest stable version.
Are you able to see QSI ASCOM driver in the NINA camera selection list?
In the past, I have had trouble with getting ASCOM drivers to work with Windows 11. I found that the solution was to downgrade the QSI drivers to version 7.4.1824. I hadn't seen any substantive differences with the older drivers, they work just fine.

I have not tried the latest 2023.06.16 version of the QSI drivers, so cannot comment on those.

Roman.


Re: NINA and QSI cameras

 

IIRC the QSI driver 32 bit so you have to download the 32 bit NINA package.
I am almost sure that is how I got mine to work.


Re: NGC 4731 image

 

That's an amazing and terrific image of a really unique target.

Jerry L. Floyd