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ZL1RS balloon flight - BB01


 

Poor thing...it looks like it was modified with a hand grenade! Still, as long as it works...

Jack, W8TEE





From: Bob Sutton via Groups.Io <zl1rs@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 4:40 PM
Subject: [QRPLabs] ZL1RS balloon flight - BB01

Up and flying ... U3S firmware and QRP-Labs synth board (modified and trimmed down! ... see pix). 10mW into a 20m dipole. Four 52 x 19mm solar cells, 3V3 boost regulator, no battery.
Tracking at
More info will appear on the QRP-Labs website in the 'Flights' section when Hans has time.

73, Bob? ZL1RS



3V3 boost regulator ? - ? GP-02 GPS?? - ? ATmega328P-AU ? -?? TMP36 temperature sensor?? -?? QRP-Labs synth board with TCXO



90cm 'clear balloon' (same as U3B-12 is currently flying under)
Hydrogen gas, inflated to provide 3.5 to 4 grams of 'free lift'




 

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:-)????? Cut down with side cutters to save weight Jack.? The 3 boards in the pic weighed in at 5.8 grams after they were wrapped in insulation foam.

73, Bob? ZL1RS


On 9/12/2017 10:57 AM, jjpurdum via Groups.Io wrote:

Poor thing...it looks like it was modified with a hand grenade! Still, as long as it works...

Jack, W8TEE



 

Hi Bob

Big congrats on the successful launch!?

I have added your info to a QRP Labs tracking page and started the tracking (the first part of the flight is missing but I can fill that in later). See?

73 Hans G0UPL

On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 12:39 AM, Bob Sutton via Groups.Io <zl1rs@...> wrote:
Up and flying ... U3S firmware and QRP-Labs synth board (modified and trimmed down! ... see pix). 10mW into a 20m dipole. Four 52 x 19mm solar cells, 3V3 boost regulator, no battery.
Tracking at
More info will appear on the QRP-Labs website in the 'Flights' section when Hans has time.

73, Bob? ZL1RS



3V3 boost regulator ? - ? GP-02 GPS?? - ? ATmega328P-AU ? -?? TMP36 temperature sensor?? -?? QRP-Labs synth board with TCXO



90cm 'clear balloon' (same as U3B-12 is currently flying under)
Hydrogen gas, inflated to provide 3.5 to 4 grams of 'free lift'



 

Thanks for sharing your experiment with us Bob and good luck with your flight

73
Joe

On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 8:09 AM, Bob Sutton via Groups.Io <zl1rs@...> wrote:
Up and flying ... U3S firmware and QRP-Labs synth board (modified and trimmed down! ... see pix). 10mW into a 20m dipole. Four 52 x 19mm solar cells, 3V3 boost regulator, no battery.
Tracking at
More info will appear on the QRP-Labs website in the 'Flights' section when Hans has time.

73, Bob? ZL1RS



3V3 boost regulator ? - ? GP-02 GPS?? - ? ATmega328P-AU ? -?? TMP36 temperature sensor?? -?? QRP-Labs synth board with TCXO



90cm 'clear balloon' (same as U3B-12 is currently flying under)
Hydrogen gas, inflated to provide 3.5 to 4 grams of 'free lift'



 

Nice work Bob.

Are you using the?FOX924B-27.000 TXCO ? If so, any problem with the TXCO doing frequency jumps.

Will be interesting to see where your flight ends up.

73 Jan SM7ETW


 

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Thanks Ian,

It is a, ECS-TXO-5032 27 MHz TCXO (from Mouser).? It jumps like the FOX does.? I have another type which will go on the next flight ... when tested on the bench it seems to have smaller jumps than the ECS, but lets see what the reality is in the wild.? I can't give you a part number for that one because it came from China advertised as a certain part, but physically it does not resemble the picture/diagram in the spec sheet!? They have 27.00F D627 printed on them, but I don't find any info for that ... anyone?

73, Bob


On 9/12/2017 12:52 PM, SM7ETW Jan wrote:

Nice work Bob.

Are you using the?FOX924B-27.000 TXCO ? If so, any problem with the TXCO doing frequency jumps.

Will be interesting to see where your flight ends up.

73 Jan SM7ETW


 

Thanks

Have you looked at the?
Abracon ASTX-H11-27.000MHZ-T

It is supposed not to jump in frequency, it is used on the etherkit.com
SI5351 breakout board.

It is very tiny don't know if it is possible to mount it on Hans board ?

Jan
?


 

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Thanks Jan? (sorry for writing "Ian" last time, I didn't have my glasses on),

The QRP-Labs board really suits something about 5mm x 3mm, but anything is possible with some fine wires if one is not so particular about the looks.

73, Bob





 

It is very tiny don't know if it is possible to mount it on Hans board ?
Jan,

Attached shows my Epson 26MHz, about the same size. "Dead bug". It is on an earlier board without the TCXO pads but it is probably easier without using them.

73 Alan G4ZFQ


 

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Bob,

I've used a 'Connor Winfield D75F-027.0M' ? TCXO in two U3Ss as it has an analogue feedback loop - avoiding jumps.? Suggested by another poster on the group some months ago.

I haven't done any tests but the original poster was using one in a 10GHz Rx setup after finding issues with the Fox unit.? Not cheap though.

73

Dave

G3WUN


On 08/12/2017 21:39, Bob Sutton via Groups.Io wrote:

Up and flying ... U3S firmware and QRP-Labs synth board (modified and trimmed down! ... see pix). 10mW into a 20m dipole. Four 52 x 19mm solar cells, 3V3 boost regulator, no battery.
Tracking at
More info will appear on the QRP-Labs website in the 'Flights' section when Hans has time.

73, Bob? ZL1RS



3V3 boost regulator ? - ? GP-02 GPS?? - ? ATmega328P-AU ? -?? TMP36 temperature sensor?? -?? QRP-Labs synth board with TCXO



90cm 'clear balloon' (same as U3B-12 is currently flying under)
Hydrogen gas, inflated to provide 3.5 to 4 grams of 'free lift'



 

Very cool Bob. If you have some info on it I would like to work on something similar with my kid to get her interested in the hobby.?

73

Don Meyerhoff
WA2SWX

On Dec 8, 2017 4:40 PM, "Bob Sutton via Groups.Io" <zl1rs=[email protected]> wrote:
Up and flying ... U3S firmware and QRP-Labs synth board (modified and trimmed down! ... see pix). 10mW into a 20m dipole. Four 52 x 19mm solar cells, 3V3 boost regulator, no battery.
Tracking at
More info will appear on the QRP-Labs website in the 'Flights' section when Hans has time.

73, Bob? ZL1RS



3V3 boost regulator ? - ? GP-02 GPS?? - ? ATmega328P-AU ? -?? TMP36 temperature sensor?? -?? QRP-Labs synth board with TCXO



90cm 'clear balloon' (same as U3B-12 is currently flying under)
Hydrogen gas, inflated to provide 3.5 to 4 grams of 'free lift'


 

Looking good Bob...lots of sunlight to play with there :)
Going to be an interesting flight.
Jim,N2NXZ


 

Would be quite interested in the info too

John

On 12/9/2017 7:54 AM, Don Meyerhoff wrote:
Very cool Bob. If you have some info on it I would like to work on something similar with my kid to get her interested in the hobby.
73
Don Meyerhoff
WA2SWX
On Dec 8, 2017 4:40 PM, "Bob Sutton via Groups.Io" <zl1rs@... <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Up and flying ... U3S firmware and QRP-Labs synth board (modified
and trimmed down! ... see pix). 10mW into a 20m dipole. Four 52 x
19mm solar cells, 3V3 boost regulator, no battery.
Tracking at
!mt=roadmap&mz=5&qm=3_days&mc=-36.74043,172.26232&f=BB01&q=BB01
<!mt=roadmap&mz=5&qm=3_days&mc=-36.74043,172.26232&f=BB01&q=BB01>
More info will appear on the QRP-Labs website in the 'Flights'
section when Hans has time.
73, Bob? ZL1RS
3V3 boost regulator ? - ? GP-02 GPS?? - ? ATmega328P-AU ? -?? TMP36
temperature sensor?? -?? QRP-Labs synth board with TCXO
90cm 'clear balloon' (same as U3B-12 is currently flying under)
Hydrogen gas, inflated to provide 3.5 to 4 grams of 'free lift'
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oops, I just tested something here locally and screwed up the tracking map.? Perhaps Hans can fix that?

Looks like BB01 got hit with ice loading(?) yesterday.? There was a sharp drop in the temperature before it descended.? The last signal yesterday was probably when it went below the clouds in the area NE of Wellington, New Zealand (as seen on satellite weather imagery).? Once lower to the ground the warmer conditions apparently melted the ice and BB01 continued to fly.? It woke up after sun rise the next day once there was sufficient sun angle on the solar cells, and by this time it was about 1500km SE of New Zealand over the southern Pacific ocean.? The signal was starting and stopping indicating it must be in partial clouds, but more recently it has transmitted steadily and the high solar voltage indicates that it is in bright sunshine again.

73, Bob? ZL1RS



 

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Thanks for the info Dave ... as you say, not so cheap.?

So far the ECS TCXO on BB01 has been OK ... I can see some 'steps' occasionally,? but the WSPR and JT9 still seems to decode.? The next one will try the Chinese TCXO (cost about $1).

73, Bob? ZL1RS


On 9/12/2017 10:44 PM, David wrote:

Bob,

I've used a 'Connor Winfield D75F-027.0M' ? TCXO in two U3Ss as it has an analogue feedback loop - avoiding jumps.? Suggested by another poster on the group some months ago.

I haven't done any tests but the original poster was using one in a 10GHz Rx setup after finding issues with the Fox unit.? Not cheap though.

73

Dave

G3WUN




 

Hi Bob
?
oops, I just tested something here locally and screwed up the tracking map.? Perhaps Hans can fix that?

Fixed!

73 Hans G0UPL


 

---- "Bob Sutton via Groups.Io" <zl1rs@...> wrote:


 

Looks like your flight is near halfway to South America. Glen N8WE


 

Bob

I note that you are the only one receiving BB01.
I know that you have extremly sensitive ears.
But is this what you would expect ?

72 Jan


 

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Yes, Jan ... it was the same tracking VK3YT Picospace balloons across the Pacific over the last 2-3 years.? Several stations receiving out to 2000km, then a few to 3000km, then just me for another 5000km or so.? After two F2 hops (8-10,000km) it gets difficult to receive a 10-20mW signal unless the balloon is near our antipode.? Check the WSPRnet.org results for VE3KCL (U3B-12) and K4JCW (HIRFW-6) over the past 2 weeks and see that the same applies in the Northern hemisphere with just a few stations receiving past 3000km.

We have a very quiet countryside location on a hill top with negative horizon to the east, and the RX is on a 4 WL long Beverage RX antenna pointed at the location of BB01.? The difference between a Beverage antenna and any other wire antenna I tried was like night and day. The closest performing RX antenna was the Flag antenna ... it was only about 4dB worse.

73, Bob ZL1RS


On 12/12/2017 11:25 AM, SM7ETW Jan wrote:

Bob

I note that you are the only one receiving BB01.
I know that you have extremly sensitive ears.
But is this what you would expect ?

72 Jan