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QMX current too high
#troubleshooting
#qmx
Hi,
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I recently finished building my qmx and after checking for shorts and not finding any I plugged it in but it draws too much current (200mA when applying 7V (which drop to 3.7V)).
I can connect to the device via the serial console where it outputs the following data:
Supply
Voltage: ? ? ? 3.7 V? 5V SMPS Status: ? ? ? ?Error Voltage: ? ? ? 3.34 V Duty max: ? ? ?85 % Duty cycle: ? ?85 % ?
The 3V3 SMPS is working fine.
When testing the 5V SMPS board it seemed to work.
Any ideas where I should start looking?
Cheers Lieven DF1CN |
I'd start by removing the SMPS boards and running the Power Supply Test Process described here /g/QRPLabs/wiki/37128?on them.
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It seems that there's something pulling the 5V VCC line low, one possibility is the Zener diode designed to protect the 5V supply.? The power supply tests will show this.
There's also a possibility that VDD, the 3.3V supply is drawing too much current.
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When you say the 3.3V SMPS is working fine do you mean that it's switched to SMPS mode and the duty cycle shows a reasonable value?? If it's still in linear mode then the current will be higher and increasing the current limit slightly may help.? Up to 250mA, not more.
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Chris |
The 5V SMPS cannot work if the supply voltage is 3.7V, and would show data just like what you provided.
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So it is impossible to tell if the 5V SMPS has a problem in this condition.
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Please post a screenshot of the diagnostics page so we can see the data for the 3.3V supply (need to see duty cycle and state).
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I would also increase the current limit to about 250mA and see if the situation changes.? At lower voltages (7V), the controller may require a bit more current to start up everything before firmware is loaded.
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But since the voltage is limiting to 3.5V, it seems that you may have a short somewhere.? It may be on your main board; have you checked the resistance between each voltage rail and ground?? Should be a few k-ohms on each, and also several k-ohms between each of the voltages.? Also check visually for anything on the display/control boards that could be contacting where they should not - there are several places with minimal clearance that could be shorting.
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Stan KC7XE |
Hi,
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thanks for your suggestions. Sorry for keeping you waiting so long, I just didn't had some time for this.
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I ran again the tests for the smps boards and discovered that the voltage regulator of the 3.3V board is dead. It simply outputs the input voltage. Grounding LIN_REG_EN has no effect.
Since the QMX reported that that eveything was fine on the 3.3V side I assumed that the 3.3V SMPS board is working, seems I was wrong.
I ordered some new smps boards. Lets hope the qmx survived everything.
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Vdd to GND is 2.1 kOhms, Vcc to GND is around 10kOhms, Vcc to Vdd is also several kOhms.
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Thanks for your help.
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Cheers,
Lieven DF1CN |
My guess is that the 200mA current limit and D109, the 3.6V Zener are regulating the supply to the processor well enough that the processor is working.? We know it's working because you can see the diagnostics.? The errors and inconsistencies are because it's operating well out of it's expected voltage range.? I would NOT increase the current limit because if D109 is overloaded it may fail.
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Replacing the 3.3V SMPS board may help, we can't say anything about the 5v board.
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Chris |
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