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Has anyone lost a balloon ?
73 Mike
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haha... had the same thought.
"...add antennas and solar cells, a balloon and you're ready to go..."
I wonder who's balloon it might be?
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73, Roland
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A balloon is not a great platform for spying... it does not go where you want it to go, and is at the mercy of the jet stream. This one is visible from the ground so not very stealthy.? And if they could roll down the window of the fighter jet, a few shots from a bb gun would get it to leak slowly and gently bring it down gently so the government could examine the secret spy equipment.??
The media loves these stories.
Dave VE3KCL
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Some stories claim that you can 'steer' a balloon by changing altitude (without going in to sufficient detail about how that might be done), while not actually claiming that _this_ balloon has those capabilities.
Occam's Razor says it was for local Chinese use and got out of hand, drifted away, or they are poking the US to see how we'll respond.
Note that the 'air traffic control flight hold' wasn't because of the balloon, it was because they were scrambling fighters to go check it out.
Wonder what the news cycle is trying to distract us from this time?
73, Willie N1JBJ
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On Feb 3, 2023, at 9:29 AM, VE3KCL <airdry@...> wrote:
A balloon is not a great platform for spying... it does not go where you want it to go, and is at the mercy of the jet stream. This one is visible from the ground so not very stealthy. And if they could roll down the window of the fighter jet, a few shots from a bb gun would get it to leak slowly and gently bring it down gently so the government could examine the secret spy equipment.
The media loves these stories.
Dave VE3KCL
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Think of this, not as a balloon, but as a blimp. ?It apparently went to Montana and "parked" there for several days, and is on the move again. ?It's apparently maintaining a uniform altitude. ?And, the military is worried about debris?? ?The same military that can leave a half million pounds of broken equipment and MRE boxes anyplace they post troops?? ?Like many things, we are being allowed a mere glimpse into the truth here. ?
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But in a statement, China's foreign ministry said it was used for "mainly meteorological" purposes.
Mainly meteorological ?
Yeah right ;-)
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On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 01:29 PM, VE3KCL wrote:
A balloon is not a great platform for spying.
It is when all that free space between wifi networks can easily be heard. 10-100mw of 2.4GHz in free space goes a long way. ? -- - 73 de Andy -
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anyone have a site that is
showing it's current location?
Joe WB9SBD
On 2/3/2023 8:02 AM, Keith "Al" AG5GW
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Think of this, not as a balloon, but as a blimp. ?It apparently
went to Montana and "parked" there for several days, and is on the
move again. ?It's apparently maintaining a uniform altitude. ?And,
the military is worried about debris?? ?The same military that can
leave a half million pounds of broken equipment and MRE boxes
anyplace they post troops?? ?Like many things, we are being
allowed a mere glimpse into the truth here. ?
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It doesn't appear to be sending its maidenhead grid to Hans' site. Maybe it has the six character grid bug :-)
Steve N9SZ
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Speculative intelligence gathering.
It's as old as the hills themselves.
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There is an outcry to shoot it down, I hope they capture it.? Maybe a nano-sized hole made by a laser would do it.? In all honesty, it's not any worse than an orbiting?spy satellite.
Bob? ?W7DIT
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The big outcry is being made by national security heads who failed to intercept it before it entered our airspace.
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Heard on the news the United Stated spends 850 Billion
on Defense budget every year, and we are going to let a Chinese Airship meander around our country?? Tables turned you know china would shoot down our dirigible or even jet aircraft with ZERO warning. But sure, believe what chiner says, that it’s a “wayward scientific experiment”. That worked well when we believed the Taliban as they controlled checkpoints in Afghanistan. ?
JP
KA3BWP
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I'd like to see the Air Force poke a few holes in it and after it lands, see what it was actually doing. Personally, I think it was delivering paychecks to Joe and Hunter...but that's just a guess. 
Jack, W8TEE
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 02:12:17 PM EST, JP McGinley <j.p.mcg@...> wrote:
Heard on the news the United Stated spends 850 Billion
on Defense budget every year, and we are going to let a Chinese Airship meander around our country?? Tables turned you know china would shoot down our dirigible or even jet aircraft with ZERO warning. But sure, believe what chiner says, that it’s a “wayward scientific experiment”. That worked well when we believed the Taliban as they controlled checkpoints in Afghanistan. ?
JP
KA3BWP
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Maybe after the combined armed forces is able to create a leak in the balloon envelope .... they can tow the descending balloon to Roswell NM which could use a boost after Covid.
Dave
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Why is this political BS on
here?
if I was the owner of this page that person would be banned.
Joe WB9SBD
On 2/3/2023 1:29 PM, jjpurdum via
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I'd like to see the Air Force
poke a few holes in it and after it lands, see what it was
actually doing. Personally, I think it was delivering
paychecks to Joe and Hunter...but that's just a guess.
Jack, W8TEE
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 02:12:17 PM EST, JP
McGinley <j.p.mcg@...> wrote:
Heard on the news the United Stated spends 850
Billion
on Defense budget every year, and we are going to let
a Chinese Airship meander around our country?? Tables
turned you know china would shoot down our dirigible
or even jet aircraft with ZERO warning. But sure,
believe what chiner says, that it’s a “wayward
scientific experiment”. That worked well when we
believed the Taliban as they controlled checkpoints in
Afghanistan. ?
JP
KA3BWP
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Or delivering Trump's next rambling speech.???
Roy WA0YMH?
I'd like to see the Air Force poke a few holes in it and after it lands, see what it was actually doing. Personally, I think it was delivering paychecks to Joe and Hunter...but that's just a guess.
Jack, W8TEE
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 02:12:17 PM EST, JP McGinley < j.p.mcg@...> wrote:
Heard on the news the United Stated spends 850 Billion
on Defense budget every year, and we are going to let a Chinese Airship meander around our country?? Tables turned you know china would shoot down our dirigible or even jet aircraft with ZERO warning. But sure, believe what chiner says, that it’s a “wayward scientific experiment”. That worked well when we believed the Taliban as they controlled checkpoints in Afghanistan. ?
JP
KA3BWP
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This group is a free for all so just join in with your own favorite subject rant!
Roy WA0YMH?
On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 1:50 PM Joe WB9SBD < nss@...> wrote:
Why is this political BS on
here?
if I was the owner of this page that person would be banned.
Joe WB9SBD
On 2/3/2023 1:29 PM, jjpurdum via
wrote:
I'd like to see the Air Force
poke a few holes in it and after it lands, see what it was
actually doing. Personally, I think it was delivering
paychecks to Joe and Hunter...but that's just a guess.
Jack, W8TEE
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 02:12:17 PM EST, JP
McGinley <j.p.mcg@...> wrote:
Heard on the news the United Stated spends 850
Billion
on Defense budget every year, and we are going to let
a Chinese Airship meander around our country?? Tables
turned you know china would shoot down our dirigible
or even jet aircraft with ZERO warning. But sure,
believe what chiner says, that it’s a “wayward
scientific experiment”. That worked well when we
believed the Taliban as they controlled checkpoints in
Afghanistan. ?
JP
KA3BWP
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Nothing new. When Sputnik 1 was laughed [ LAUNCHED - thank you dictation software], the Daily Express asked why the RAF didn’t go up to shoot it down.
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On 3 Feb 2023, at 19:29, Bob W7DIT < cent@...> wrote:
There is an outcry to shoot it down, I hope they capture it.? Maybe a nano-sized hole made by a laser would do it.? In all honesty, it's not any worse than an orbiting?spy satellite.
Bob? ?W7DIT
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Hans is not only on vacation, but has a very light moderation touch.?
You are welcome to run your group as you choose.?
Please notice the links at the bottom of _every_ emailed post offering to “Mute this topic”.?
73, Willie N1JBJ
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Why is this political BS on
here?
if I was the owner of this page that person would be banned.
Joe WB9SBD
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Mike
VE3KCL
Keith "Al" AG5GW
Daniel Conklin
JP McGinley KA3BWP
jjpurdum