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Ultimate 3S Burp After Transmitting


 

The stock assembled unit had been flawless.? Now when I try to operate sequencing 2 bands, the controller resets each time it finishes the first band - yes I see the sign-on message flash on the LCD.? Unit has a single BS170.? Until today, it had reset flawlessly, well until the middle of the eclipse - then it took a couple hours off before resetting itself.?

The power supply seems capable of outputting 1 amp or more under regulation - but this homebrew supply was built by another ham - so I have not ruled it out.? Still, I can't see a small current draw causing such action.?

Curious if anyone else has experienced this?? I do plan on building a power supply to replace this one.? I haven't yet inserted a current meter to monitor what is happening.? It had worked for countless hours before this new experience.?

73 Curt WB8YYY


 

Curt,

If the wire from the PSU to the U3S is a few feet long, try putting something like 470uF or 1000uF across the +5V input connections right at the U3S board.? That has helped here with similar (and similarly erratic) reset symptoms.
73, Bob? ZL1RS



John Blake
 

Yep, I had the exact same problem. Better filtering on the power supply fixed it . The cap filtering suggested in the previous post fixed it, I used electrolytics


 

Tips highly appreciated - I may need them.?

Perhaps also this thing uses more current than I think?? I can't find documented the current of the 3S nor the GPS.? Also i realize it varies with PA bias ... and the backlight setting.? I had wired mine to allow backlight adjustment - but never changed it.? Now that I reduce the backlight, the 3S is working flawless again.? As I see no regulation inside the 3S -- likely (to my surprise) I was up against the stops of this so called 1 amp supply - either with current under regulation or its manners when feeding a lot of current.?

I plan to build a better 5 volt supply -- with sufficient capacitance.? I had this homebrew (from another ham, now SK) open briefly - I did not count the uF's -- but there may not be quite enough.? It has a couple TO-whatever regulators bolted to the case (one for 5 volts and one for 12 volts) that likely aren't up to modern standards.?

I have enjoyed some cool radiation with 100 to 300 mW with this nifty transmitter.? Thanks again.?

Curt WB8YYY


 

If you need long cables to the U3s, it's better to supply it with 9-12V and have a local 7805 (with caps on both sides) that regulates the voltage close to the boards. Otherwise you will get drops in voltage and all sorts of fun kickbacks when connecting to a distant 5V supply, perhaps mixed with other consumers as well. Microprocessors usually don't like unstable power supply systems.


 

Daniel

There is so much space in the 3S case I am thinking to build a PS as you describe -- curious how many uF of filtering you are using, in addition to the 2 small caps to keep the regulator stable??

I am thrilled with the 80 to 10 meter spots running barefoot - so 5 volt regulation inside is a good thing.? I may build a small PA only for 160m use - as my vertical isn't that efficient.?

Curt


 


On Aug 21, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Bob Sutton via Groups.Io wrote:

If the wire from the PSU to the U3S is a few feet long, try putting something like 470uF or 1000uF across the +5V input connections right at the U3S board.

Just to clarify, one should connect the capacitor between the +5V and the ground of PSU, but right at the U3S board?

Thanks,
Brad


 

Regarding capacitor values one should follow the datasheet of the regulator, there's lots of variance here with anything from 0.1uF to 10uF on either side of the reg. These small caps should be lowish ESR, ie plastic film, ceramic or tantalum. Putting an extra ~100uF electrolytic on the output is good practice for additional buffering. I don't really think you need 1000+ uF here.
In my U3S I have 2 separate 5V (MCU,OCXO) regs and one 9V (PA), all powered from external 12V. These are screwed to one of the big case pieces for heat dissipation, the back plate was too crowded for 3 regs.


 



If the wire from the PSU to the U3S is a few feet long, try putting something like 470uF or 1000uF across the +5V input connections right at the U3S board.



> Just to clarify, one should connect the capacitor between the +5V and the ground of PSU, but right at the U3S board?


Yes.