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[fixed] Magic smoke / immediate "shut down!" state / left button constantly "pressed"


 

Hi everyone!

Yesterday I managed to get my QMX up and running, what a beautiful device.

I made a few *mistakes and encountered a few hiccups along the way, so I thought I would share them here.

I encountered 2 main issues: Magic smoke, and a problem where the radio enters the ¡°shut down!¡± state immediately after booting.

Problem 1: Magic smoke on the 5V SMPS

Once assembled (and inspected according to the manual), I connected a *non-limited 10V power supply to the rig, without enclosure. I could boot the device and upload the firmware, success!

Frying the power supply PCB:

I went ahead and put the thing into the aluminium case. Next, I *connected a 12.5V (measured) battery and the device wouldn¡¯t boot anymore. Opening the case revealed the magic smoke. L101 was hot and I knew that at least the 5V SMPS board was gone.

I don¡¯t know what caused this failure. Possible causes:
- The use of a 12.5V battery for the first boot after installing the enclosure
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A short caused by inserting the assembly into the aluminium case. Perhaps a component to the case, or a component of the SMPS board to the main board. It is a very tight package!
-
Others

Checking if the MCU is OK:

I removed all boards (LCD, control, 2x PS) and connected 3.3V to Vdd. I could still connect to the processor via Putty ¨C phew!

I reinstalled the 3.3V power supply board and hooked up 9V to the +12V pin. In this configuration I could also connect to the processor and I could check that Vcc was 3.3V (by using the Diagnostics tool via Putty). Nice!

I suspected that the 5V portion of Plug-in PCB #1 was toast (Q108, D106, D108, C107 etc.) and ordered a new one.

Problem 2: QMX enters ¡°shut down!¡± state immediately after boot / left encoder button constantly ¡°pressed¡±

Inserting the controls board leads to ¡°shut down!¡± state:

I then used another power supply to supply 9V to the +12V pin and 5V to Vcc. I added the display board and the unit booted. However, when I inserted the controls PCB, the LCD would immediately show ¡°shut down!¡±.

I checked the controls board and I behaved as it should. Mainly, I ensured that pushing the left rotary encoder button connects pin 5 of the connector JP302 (PWR_ON) to ground and that releasing the button disconnects pin 5. This was the case.

When the radio was connected to the PC via USB, I could check what the processor sees in the "Diagnostics" menu: when I inserted the controls PCB, the left button was always seen as ¡°pressed¡±, which means that MOSFET Q202 is in the on state. Without the controls board inserted, everything was fine. However, simply inserting a wire into the socket of pin 5 was enough to trigger ¡°left button pressed¡± again. I also noticed that the left button state remained "pressed" for a second or so after removing the wire. Hence, I thought maybe Q202 was broken and I removed it.

Fixing the immediate ¡°shut down¡± state:

With Q202 removed, the radio never entered the ¡°shut down¡± state anymore, so I ordered a replacement. However, after replacing Q202 the problem persisted. Hence, the problem seemed to be that Q202 was activated even though the left button was not pushed and PWR_ON was not on ground level (I checked for shorts).

From the schematics I noticed that the gate of Q202 is left floating when not connected to ground. I tried to fix my problem by adding a 100K pullup resistor between the gate of Q202 and +12V, which worked. I salvaged a 100K SMD resistor from the dead 5V board (I used R108) and inserted it directly between the Gate and Source legs of Q202. Nice! The only remaining issue: when I turn the unit off (long press of left button), the "shut down" message appears, then disappears, but the display backlight stays on. I don't mind and simply remove the power supply at this point, seemingly without trouble.

Finally, I installed the new 5V SMPS board and carefully tested everything with a current limited power supply. Success, no more magic smoke and no more ¡°shut down!¡± message.

I double checked that no component legs would touch the enclosure and reinstalled everything. This time using a current limited power supply and slowly ramping the voltage from 8V to 12V, I could verify all functions of the radio and the unit has now been up and running for several hours without issues.

I don't know if I did further damage to the radio when the magic smoke escaped, and perhaps the fact that a floating gate activates a MOSFET is a sign for further trouble, but so far so good!

In any case I hope this little report will be helpful in case someone encounters similar problems.

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Cheers,

Luke


 

Hi Luke,

you should remove the additional 100k resistor between gate and source of Q202. This additional resistor is only useful
if you operate the QMX without PCB#1, because without PCB#1 the pull-up resistor R103 is missing. In my opinion this
additional resistor is the reason that with PCB#1 installed the shutdown of your QMX does not work properly because you
bypass Q103 and Q104 with this resistor.

73, Uli DF7SC


 

Good morning Uli,

I completely overlooked this! Many thanks for reading through my message and providing your insight. I'll fix this tonight and will report back.

Have a good weekend!

Luke


 

Sure enough, after removing the additional resistor everything is back to normal.

Takeaway: When checking if the radio is OK using separate power supplies, either do not plug the controls board and check all functions using the serial interface, or temporarily add a pull-up resistor to the gate of 202 :)

Thanks Uli, and good luck to all builders of this beautiful kit!