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Re: QMX step 12 continuity oddity

 

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Garrett,

It still makes on sense to me that you have continuity between B1 & B2, but B2 shows 10 ohms to the A points and B1 does not. Try swapping your probes around and see if that changes anything. I'm assuming that by continuity you mean 0.0 ohms or very close to that.

73,
Cliff, AE5ZA



On Aug 25, 2023, at 16:37, Garrett kc3unp <kc3unp@...> wrote:

I'm just adding the #QMX hashtag, which I'd inadvertently left off. ?Thank you again in advance for any troubleshooting advice regarding the ~10ohm resistance detected across some of the A and B test points on step 12 (pg 31 with results re-attached). ?Best, Garrett KC3UNP <QMX-continuity-kc3unp - 1.jpeg>


Re: Working QDX just lost reception

 

Thanks Alan?
I will take a peek today when I have time.
I'll let you know in a few days.
Regards
73
James?


Stuck on my QMX build

 

Hi, can anyone suggest where to go next please.
Connect power, no current draw. press on button PC sees QMX current draw approx 160ma, load software and LCD lights up with splash screen (software version QMX ect) and thats all.
Turn off power unplug pc press start current draw about 160ma but nothing on display. wait try again nothing.
Connect to PC reload software and LCD lights up, but same situation as above. It also does not turn off the current draw if i hold the power off button.
I stripped and rebuild the contols board and check every conection and switch opperation.

Any advice would be appreciated? Mike


Re: #QMX holy smoke released again, C107 and D108 destroyed #qmx

g4edg
 

Hi Gunnar

I noticed that C107 was getting warm at a supply voltage of 6v, and that D108 ceased working as a zener. C107 is only rated at 6.3v according to the parts list...which is OK til something goes wrong and it gets the full supply voltage across it. Tantalums always put on a good show!?

I had no PWM5V from the processor in my case and Q106 was full on, causing? the "full 6v" to appear across C107...at 13.8v I cant imagine.

73 Steve G4EDG


Re: QDX Build Completed

 

On 26/08/2023 10:04, Alan G4ZFQ via groups.io wrote:
Radio Hams need to turn off all audio "enhancements"
That reminds me, Dell computers run a service "Waves Audio Services" that should be disabled.
I'm not sure it has affected me but some users of WSJT-X have reported problems.
There was also another Dell service but I do not see that anymore.

73 Alan G4ZFQ


VFO/Sig gen

 

Hi. Can someone tell me if I can use an AVAGO encoder type HRPG-ASCA #51R in place of the supplied encoder with this kit.?


Re: No Sound Card digital modes

 

Wsjtx does however at least show what is being sent and received in two places other than the screen. In the UDP data stream, and logged in the all.txt file.
What I managed to do for my experiment is to track the all.txt file with a small node.js app, encode that message to ft8 frequency offsets and send that number via serial port to the Arduino that controls the si5351.
It is clumsy but it kinda works. And no visible latency either.?

While this is far from finished and useful, it is an idea how annoying "audio coupling" between wsjtx and a transceiver that does direct signal generation can be done with a small software shim.

In theory, it wouldn't be too hard to add optional "current message output" to existing wsjtx cat serial data, but haven't explored that yet.?


Re: QDX Build Completed

 

On 26/08/2023 09:32, John Shufflebarger wrote:
Turned out my transmit issues were due to some "automatic" attenuation that defaults on Windows 10 and 11
John,

I expect these settings satisfy 95% of Windows users.
Radio Hams need to turn off all audio "enhancements" when they start using a Windows computer.

73 Alan G4ZFQ


Re: QDX Build Completed

 

Late posting this, but want to complete the story.

Turned out my transmit issues were due to some "automatic" attenuation that defaults on Windows 10 and 11.

Here is Paul Jorgenson's excellent post on the issue??/g/QRPLabs/message/104591??

After stopping windows from "automatically" lowering my output levels, getting transmit fine on all bands 80-20


#QMX holy smoke released again, C107 and D108 destroyed #qmx

 

Well... I just finished my second QMX, the first one was toasted by increasing the supply voltage from 6V to 12V wiith a ramp-up time of 3milliseconds.
The full story is here:?/g/QRPLabs/message/106237

That one was? running firmware 1.07. Image. D109 was destroyed (short) so I removed it.
After that my QMX turned on but power? consumption was200mA @12V input.
Image rejection was nonexistant and bandpass filters totally wrong, so I concluded IC402 and/or IC403 were damaged.
I decided to stop there and ordered a new kit

Now the second QMX, finished last night:
I loaded firmware 1.09 without problems.
Everything was fine and I was just about to write something on the forum of a successful build.
I wanted to put in some figures of RF power output and current consumption.
Power output was fine 4W on all bands @12V supply. Image rejection and filter sweeps were also fine. Supply current about 100mA in receive and 600mA in transmit
But while I was measureing supply current I heard a "crack" and the QMX turned itself off.
I turned it on again by pressing the left rotary switch.
Now I smelled burnt electronics.
I opened the case and out came the holy smoke...
C107 was now black and with a large crack in it.
I took out the power board and removed C107 and measured the resistance between Vcc and GND.
733 Ohms in both directions with the DMM, so i removed D108. Now I had 75 kOhm in one diection and about 7 kOhm in the other.
I also checked Q108, no short between terminals, so I guess it survived.

So I took the 5V power board from my first QMX and put it into the second.
And voila, everything back to normal.

So what happened?
During the current measurement It is possible that I interrupted the power supply line shortly when I disconnected the DMM without powering down the QMX before.
But htis case was addressed by Hans in his article about SMPS behaviour during input voltage step...

There is a saying in swedish "en g?ng ?r ingen g?ng, tv? g?nger ?r en gong-gong"
Free translation: One time is OK, two times is an alarm clock.
I can see that several QMXs have blown up C107.
I think this is no coincidence. There is something going on here
I recall that all who reported blown C107 were running 12V supplies with high current capability

I suspect a HW/SW interaction:
During a power interruption glitch, is it possible that the processor can leave the the PWM signal high, thus creating a voltage increase that kills C107 and D108?
I would suggest that the PWM-signals should be AC-coupled so that if stuck high, the SMPS would turn itself off.

73 de SM5EIE /Gunnar
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So I ordered?


Re: No receive QMX

 

On 25/08/2023 11:03, Chris wrote:
That's so dead that it seems to be more than T401 soldering,
Chris,

But if the wires are in the wrong holes reception could be zero.

73 Alan G4ZFQ


Re: QDX 20-10 9v

 

On 25/08/2023 20:09, W GALAUGHER wrote:
L4 started smoking. Yikes!
Now terminal shows only 80m, no other bands. Wsjt works into 50 ohms but usb sketchy
Replaced L4. Removed Diodes D1 and D4, they were shorted.
Where to next?
Maybe a better description.
What version QDX?
L4?? are you sure?
Terminal shows only 80m, do a reset?
WSJT works? RX and TX? All bands?
USB sketchy? How?
D1, 4 shorted? Seems unlikely.

73 Alan G4ZFQ


Re: Working QDX just lost reception

 

On 25/08/2023 12:53, KB9NBL wrote:
but no or limited reception
James

Q6 failure has been reported, possibly static from antenna.
Or, a bad joint showing up.

73 Alan G4ZFQ


Re: New QRP-Labs product idea? A QMX/QDX based digimode / cat interface?

 

On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 08:51 PM, Gary W9TD wrote:
The Microham USB interface III driver/configuration program works fine on my W10 machine.
I downloaded the new driver and virtual port installer yesterday.
I tried it on my laptop (Win10) and desktop (Win11) and all worked as expected, but haven't connected a radio yet.
The cables I have were for some radios I no longer have.? I'll have to make some new ones.

I am glad someone asked the question.? It made me look at a piece of equipment that I wasn't using - but could be!
-------
Rob KB8RCO


Re: #QMX Are these Issues? #qmx

 

The voltage on LIN_REG_EN is a little over 0.7 volts when the power on switch is pressed, which leaves me a bit suspicious... Still don't understand what could've compromised the CPU.


Re: #QMX Are these Issues? #qmx

 

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Well, I thought I had an easy glide path. Repairing the Q103/Q104 short, I damaged (lost) R104 and D102. Turns out what I was seeing was, with no pull up, once connected to the supply the 12 volt supply drifted upwards until the unit turned itself on!

Repaired the board with discrete components and tried powering up again.

No Joy. :-( Looks like the repaired board is doing what it should, but the 3.3 volt supply (which had to be working before!) is not coming up because the linear 3.3 PS is not enabled. Gate voltage on Q102 is 8 V (what I've got my test supply set to). Gate voltage on Q101 is less than a volt. The 100k pull up resistor is in place, and the correct value.

Only thing I can see is the LIN_REG_EN output of the uP must be pulling it low (before the uP has enough voltage to run!) Checked for shorts, nada -- 80-100k.

Have I missed something? Any suggestions? Is the uP defective somehow, and how did it get that way when it was working, albeit strangely, before?

TIA for any suggestions!

A very frustrated,
Paul -- AI7JR

On 8/23/23 22:06, Paul - AI7JR via groups.io wrote:

Is there some kind of log for QMX issues? Don't want to bore anybody by reporting what's known, or my build defect!

Here's what I'm seeing (I've got Firmware version 9 loaded, 7volts, 250ma current limit):

  1. On application of power, initial current is 0, but goes to around 10ma after 10-15 seconds. Stays steady after it comes up.
  2. On initial power application, power on click is ignored, until the above 10ma step in current.
  3. At that point, power on click "delays" for ~10sec, then display comes on and 150ma current draw.
  4. Tune knob frequency only goes up?
  5. Long press power click displays Shutdown, but LCD never goes off, current (150ma) never drops.
  6. While "Shutdown" is displayed, band and mode can be changed!
  7. Going back to 3, if the power is interrupted briefly (maybe 200mS), device turns off. Pressing power-on click activates immediately!

I what I'm seeing "normal" at the moment? :-)

Haven't gotten so far as to transmit or receive, either one. (Need to read that operations manual!)

Please forgive if this is the wrong place to put this!

73, Paul -- AI7JR


Re: QMX Draws 200mA when Power Applied

 

It seems to be ok so far, firmware loaded and the display is working.??


Re: QMX Draws 200mA when Power Applied

 

Thanks Jeffrey,

I found a solder whisker bridge from the plug in PCB#1 edge connector to the FET.? It turns on with the switch now, I hope there isn't any damage to the CPU.


Re: USB Device not recognized .... another one #qmx

 

IT's ALIVE!!!

The QMX hears and transmits as well! (Ironically the 1st thing it heard was from the QRP-Labs SigGen!)

On transmit without any adjustments at ~12VDC? into my QRPoMeter dummy load I measured:

80m?? 4.1W
60????? 4.0
40????? 4.1
30????? 3.7
20????? 3.5

Now to start setting the rig up!! I may even need to print out the operating manual!

--
73, Rick
VE7TK

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Re: Power supply for pre-assembled QMX

 

I have the same question Hans. Is it possible for invoice 72091 to be made for 9V?