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Re: QCX and QZF (Zero-beat) indicator #qcx

 

I would like to add a zero beat to my rig too.
Currently I use my phones Apple app called (tone generator). It¡¯s set to 700 hz. I just slide one of my ear phones off a little, start the tone and it easy to hear the radio and the tone at the same time.
But it would be nice to have something built in, like Son of Zero beat.
73
wd4dda

Preston's iPhone


Re: Safe solder for working on PCBs?

 

Hello Jim,

Tuesday, October 9, 2018

If you buy de-soldering braid pay a bit extra for branded and make
sure it is flux impregnated, the cheap Ebay ones are probably not and
they do not absorb the solder nearly as well. I think mine is made by
Chemtronics and should be available everywhere. Forget lead free
solder, the commercial lads probably would too, given a choice, as it
flows poorly, eats soldering bit plating and is much harder to use,
especially for a beginner. It's purely a sap to the Greens :)


Best regards,
Chris 2E0ILY mailto:chris@...


JL> Hi all,


JL> I am interested in building the?QCX 5W CW transceiver, but am
JL> pretty new to building kits and don't have a solder. From what
JL> I've heard, you need to be careful when choosing a solder to work
JL> on circuit boards. It sounds like heat (and perhaps electrostatic
JL> discharge as well?) are real concerns with solder guns.


JL> With those potential hazards in mind, I've been looking at the
JL> X-Tronic Model #3020-XTS-ST which seems to hold a steady
JL> temperature (which is reported by a small LED display), and also
JL> claims to be?ESD Safe. Does this look like a safe solder to use
JL> (and a good deal, otherwise)? Does anyone have a solder that
JL> they've really enjoyed using and would recommend for working on PCBs?


JL> Appreciate any thoughts the group has - best,
JL> Jim, KJ7AOO



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Best regards, Chris Wilson (2E0ILY)


Re: DX-ing with QRP - possible?

 

I¡¯ve successfully built the 40 meter version. With 12 volts I get about 3.5 watts out to a dipole at 30 feet.
Haven¡¯t worked any DX yet but regularly get out to about 1500 miles.
I listen for the strong signals, make sure I have the call right and wait for my chance.
I don¡¯t usually call CQ. I think hunt and pounce works best for me.

Building the 20 meter version now and hope I¡¯ll have better success with DX and my spider beam.
Slowing getting back into CW and my speed is only around 13wpm.
I still get a big kick out making a contact on a radio I built.
73
wd4dda



Preston's iPhone


Re: DX-ing with QRP - possible?

Dale Putnam
 

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There are a number of DXCC - qrp awards out there too..?
I know, I have one.?

Have a great day,
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy

"Actions speak louder than words"
1856 - Abraham Lincoln


Mixed Code??

Bob Macklin
 

I have been looking at the SI5351 sample code on the QEPLabs website.

I've been wondering about using mixed code on the ATmega328.

Using C for the main program but doing the actual I/O with assembly language.

I have been writing assembly language code for the AVR chips fof about 15 years. I am comfortable about that.

But for the SI5351 these is code that is easier done in C.

So I would like to know about mixing C and Assembly in a common application

Right now I am looking at the "Flash LED" example.

I have never programmed an Ardiuno. I don't like their IDE. I use Atmel Studio. I have been using it since vesion 4. Maybe earlier. But 4 is the oldest I have. I am just starting to use version7 since I now have a computer running Win7.?

Bob Macklin
Seattle, Wa


Re: Safe solder for working on PCBs?

 

Folks remember that lead needs to be ingested. So wash your hand after using it and don¡¯t put it in your mouth.
To inhale lead you will need to bring it to a boil, inhale the fumes and the boiling point of lead is a little 3,000 F.
I use a fan so I don¡¯t inhale the flux and whatever else is in that smoke.
So for most of us in the hobby the lead type solder is the best type for us.
My favorite is Kester 63/37., just seems to flow better than the standard 60/40 but that¡¯s just my opinion.
73
wd4dda
40 meter QCX


Preston's iPhone


Re: Safe solder for working on PCBs?

 

Jim,

You have already gotten quite a few replies all with good suggestions.

And just to summarize, leaded solder is much easier to use than lead free
solder as it typically has a lower melting temperature and flows more
easily.

My preference is for 63:37 solder. This is a quote from Wikipedia:

"Alloys commonly used for electrical soldering are 60/40 Sn-Pb, which
melts at 188 ¡ãC (370 ¡ãF), and 63/37 Sn-Pb used principally in
electrical/electronic work. 63/37 is a eutectic alloy of these metals,
which: has the lowest melting point (183 ¡ãC or 361 ¡ãF) of all the
tin-lead alloys;"

I also keep on hand the 62:36:2 with 2% silver solder as already noted by
another poster. Radio Shack was my source but Amazon and Ebay are also
sources Chipquik is good brand. As it contains silver it will be a more
expensive. Keep in mind that this solder has a slightly higher melting
temperature and will be a bit more difficult to unsolder and remove some
components but is not insurmountable.

Flux. Also very important. Solder typically will already have flux in
it's core but the use of additional flux doesn't hurt. I always have a
flux pen on hand and use it as well a relying on the flux in the solder.
It helps the solder flow more easily and evenly and will also help if
you need to use something solder wick to unsolder and remove something.

Solder wick or similar product is also very good and handy to have. There
are at least two good brand names Solder-wick by chemtronics and Super
Wick by MG Chemicals. My preference is Super Wick because I can get it
locally and I use only the .10" size. I have tried smaller and larger
but find smaller is too small and larger is just too large. An extra bit
of flux when using one of solder wick makes them work better and more
quickly too.

Your post also makes me wonder whether or not you are also asking about
soldering stations.

the one in the link you provided looks decent enough and would probably
be quite suitable but I am not familiar with that brand.

If price is not too much of concern, then my preference would be for
something like the Hakko FX-888 (beware of imitations):



I have one and wouldn't trade it for anything else. I also have an
earlier model 936 which has served me well for many (many) years.

cheers, Graham ve3gtc

On 10/9/2018, "Jim Ladd" <jladdjr@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I am interested in building the QCX 5W CW transceiver
<>, but am pretty new to building kits and
don't have a solder. From what I've heard, you need to be careful when
choosing a solder to work on circuit boards. It sounds like heat (and
perhaps electrostatic discharge as well?) are real concerns with solder
guns.

With those potential hazards in mind, I've been looking at the X-Tronic
Model #3020-XTS-ST
<>
which seems to hold a steady temperature (which is reported by a small LED
display), and also claims to be ESD Safe. Does this look like a safe solder
to use (and a good deal, otherwise)? Does anyone have a solder that they've
really enjoyed using and would recommend for working on PCBs?

Appreciate any thoughts the group has - best,
Jim, KJ7AOO


Re: DX-ing with QRP - possible?

 

while my qcx is still under construction, I have made VK land via 10w on a KX2 and a vertical (qrpguys tri band vertical) antenna on 20m during the evening hours while doing SOTA. ??

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 08:03 Steve Nichols via Groups.Io <infotechcomms=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,

You certainly can work DX with the QCX - if the conditions are right. We are currently near to sunspot minimum with lots of geomagnetic disturbances due to coronal holes. But given the right conditions 3-5W of CW can go a long way.??

I have reported a few of my portable exploits with the QCX. See?
I also used it for our annual "radio by the seaside" event and crossed the Atlantic into New York state during a contest.

To see what else you can do with 5W or less see:



and



It is? a case of perseverance and finding people who are either a) like minded QRPers or b) in a contest and want your points!

Steve G0KYA

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this was pounded out on my iPhone and i have fat fingers plus ?two left thumbs :)

We have to?remember?that what we observe is not?nature?herself, but nature exposed to our method of questioning.


Re: DX-ing with QRP - possible?

Steve Nichols
 

Hi,

You certainly can work DX with the QCX - if the conditions are right. We are currently near to sunspot minimum with lots of geomagnetic disturbances due to coronal holes. But given the right conditions 3-5W of CW can go a long way.??

I have reported a few of my portable exploits with the QCX. See?
I also used it for our annual "radio by the seaside" event and crossed the Atlantic into New York state during a contest.

To see what else you can do with 5W or less see:



and



It is? a case of perseverance and finding people who are either a) like minded QRPers or b) in a contest and want your points!

Steve G0KYA


Re: New kit: 10W HF Linear PA

 

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Hans,
Thanks for offering another kit.?
?Sure, take my money. I'll have another ?kit to build in abt a month. Happy Belated Birthday to me, order number 22930

JP
KA3BWP

On Oct 9, 2018, at 10:18 AM, Roger Hill <rhill@...> wrote:

Oh, ok. Then the blurb on the sales page says ProgRock...


Roger

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On 2018-10-09 15:17, Hans Summers wrote:

Hi Roger
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No, I don't mean ProgRock. I do mean SoftRock as written. SoftRock is an SDR board that has been around for a few years, and they used a pair of BS170's as the transmitter output stage to provide something like 1/2 a watt, in push-pull (linear) configuration. QRP Labs loves BS170s and they work very well in this application.?
?
73 Hans G0UPL

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 5:12 PM Roger Hill <rhill@...> wrote:

A possible typo in the assembly manual:


The push-pull driver stage using two BS170's is as used in the SoftRock transmitter stage.


I think that should be ProgRock, maybe.


Roger

G3YTN

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Roger Hill
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On 2018-10-09 14:43, Clint Sharp wrote:

I like, and the build document as always excellent but is there a particular reason for soldering the IRF510 MOSFETs before bolting them down?

On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 13:57, John AE5X <ae5x@...> wrote:
A more direct link:


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Re: New kit: 10W HF Linear PA

 

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Oh, ok. Then the blurb on the sales page says ProgRock...


Roger

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Roger Hill
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On 2018-10-09 15:17, Hans Summers wrote:

Hi Roger
?
No, I don't mean ProgRock. I do mean SoftRock as written. SoftRock is an SDR board that has been around for a few years, and they used a pair of BS170's as the transmitter output stage to provide something like 1/2 a watt, in push-pull (linear) configuration. QRP Labs loves BS170s and they work very well in this application.?
?
73 Hans G0UPL

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 5:12 PM Roger Hill <rhill@...> wrote:

A possible typo in the assembly manual:


The push-pull driver stage using two BS170's is as used in the SoftRock transmitter stage.


I think that should be ProgRock, maybe.


Roger

G3YTN

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**
Roger Hill
**


On 2018-10-09 14:43, Clint Sharp wrote:

I like, and the build document as always excellent but is there a particular reason for soldering the IRF510 MOSFETs before bolting them down?

On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 13:57, John AE5X <ae5x@...> wrote:
A more direct link:


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Re: New kit: 10W HF Linear PA

 

Hi Roger

No, I don't mean ProgRock. I do mean SoftRock as written. SoftRock is an SDR board that has been around for a few years, and they used a pair of BS170's as the transmitter output stage to provide something like 1/2 a watt, in push-pull (linear) configuration. QRP Labs loves BS170s and they work very well in this application.?

73 Hans G0UPL

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 5:12 PM Roger Hill <rhill@...> wrote:

A possible typo in the assembly manual:


The push-pull driver stage using two BS170¡¯s is as used in the SoftRock transmitter stage.


I think that should be ProgRock, maybe.


Roger

G3YTN

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Roger Hill
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On 2018-10-09 14:43, Clint Sharp wrote:

I like, and the build document as always excellent but is there a particular reason for soldering the IRF510 MOSFETs before bolting them down?

On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 13:57, John AE5X <ae5x@...> wrote:
A more direct link:


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Re: New kit: 10W HF Linear PA

 

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And another typo, in the parts list.


Q203, 203, 204, 205? <----- should be Q202....
Q206, 209
Q207, 208
IC201
1N4004
2N3904
BS170 (4pcs)

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Roger Hill
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On 2018-10-09 15:12, Roger Hill wrote:

A possible typo in the assembly manual:


The push-pull driver stage using two BS170¡¯s is as used in the SoftRock transmitter stage.


I think that should be ProgRock, maybe.


Roger

G3YTN

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**
Roger Hill
**


On 2018-10-09 14:43, Clint Sharp wrote:

I like, and the build document as always excellent but is there a particular reason for soldering the IRF510 MOSFETs before bolting them down?

On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 13:57, John AE5X <ae5x@...> wrote:
A more direct link:


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Re: New kit: 10W HF Linear PA

 

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A possible typo in the assembly manual:


The push-pull driver stage using two BS170¡¯s is as used in the SoftRock transmitter stage.


I think that should be ProgRock, maybe.


Roger

G3YTN

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**
Roger Hill
**


On 2018-10-09 14:43, Clint Sharp wrote:

I like, and the build document as always excellent but is there a particular reason for soldering the IRF510 MOSFETs before bolting them down?

On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 13:57, John AE5X <ae5x@...> wrote:
A more direct link:


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Re: New kit: 10W HF Linear PA

 

Hi Clint

The particular reason is just that I didn't think of it until now!? ?:-O

You are right, it may be good to solder them after bolting them down - not just for the obvious reason of not putting too much strain on the wires. Actually since the "top" side of the IRF510's sits flat on the PCB, if you solder them in first, they do end up precisely orientated and there should not be any strain. BUT, it IS tricky installing them on the assembly: aligning the blue silicone insulating pads and putting the white plastic washer in, and the bolts - you are right, I think it may well be easier to assemble if the transistors are bolted in first before soldering!

73 Hans G0UPL

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 4:44 PM Clint Sharp <cjaysharp@...> wrote:
I like, and the build document as always excellent but is there a particular reason for soldering the IRF510 MOSFETs before bolting them down?

On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 13:57, John AE5X <ae5x@...> wrote:
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Re: New kit: 10W HF Linear PA

Clint Sharp
 

I like, and the build document as always excellent but is there a particular reason for soldering the IRF510 MOSFETs before bolting them down?

On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 13:57, John AE5X <ae5x@...> wrote:
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Re: New kit: 10W HF Linear PA

 

Hi Simon

I have not made that kind of detailed measurement on it. It's a Linear (for SSB) so efficiency is much lower than Class-C or the Class-E amp in the QCX which can only be used for CW. Typical efficiency might be expected to be around 40%. In that case to get 10W output would require 25V DC input, which at 13.8V would mean 1.8A current. So say around 2A?+/- for 10W output continuous (CW). For SSB, 10W PEP means a lower average so the average current would also be lower - but that can depend on lots of other factors including degree of compression used.?

73 Hans G0UPL



On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 4:30 PM Simon Kennedy <simon@...> wrote:
Thanks Hans,

I was fortunate to see your post while I was having lunch so have been able to order one before most of our US friends are awake!

However, I can't see anywhere documented what input power is required at a nominal 13.8v to deliver 10w output.

Could you share this information please.

73 Simon
G0FCU?


On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 13:58 John AE5X, <ae5x@...> wrote:
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Re: New kit: 10W HF Linear PA

 

Thanks Hans,

I was fortunate to see your post while I was having lunch so have been able to order one before most of our US friends are awake!

However, I can't see anywhere documented what input power is required at a nominal 13.8v to deliver 10w output.

Could you share this information please.

73 Simon
G0FCU?


On Tue, 9 Oct 2018, 13:58 John AE5X, <ae5x@...> wrote:
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Re: New kit: 10W HF Linear PA

 

Hi Ray

I *knew* someone was gonna ask that, just not how soon... you were SOON, dude.?

Yes... I don't see why not offer QSX without the PA. It could be called a "Receiver" and just not have the PA module included.?

73 Hans G0UPL

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 4:23 PM Ray M0DHP <m0dhp@...> wrote:

Hello Hans

Will there be an option to order the QSX minus the PA?? I'm thinking about ordering the PA now to get it built and tested early.

73

Ray


On 09/10/18 13:28, Hans Summers wrote:
Hi all

I have now made available this new 10W HF Linear PA module which has high performance yet low cost ($26 including large heatsink).?

Features:
  • 10W output from 2 to 30MHz, using 12V Supply
  • Suitable for 10W PEP, CW or Digital modes
  • Generously-sized heatsink, will not overheat even on continuous 100% duty-cycle modes
  • 2-stage amplifier provides 26dB of gain
  • Push-pull driver and push-pull finals, for high linearity and low harmonic content
  • +/- 1dB gain flatness from 2 to 30MHz
  • 4dB down at 4m (50MHz) and 8dB down on 4m (70MHz)
  • Standard 50-ohm input and output
  • Through-hole plated PCB, all through-hole components (no Surface Mount Devices)
  • Standard inexpensive components throughout
  • Tested for 1 hour at full-power 10W, 100% continuous duty-cycle with no forced air cooling
  • Tested for 15 minutes at 20W, 100% continuous duty-cycle with no forced air cooling
  • Tested at 20V supply
  • Tested into open load, shorted load and various mismatches without instability (oscillation)
This 10W HF Linear PA module will be used in the QSX transceiver.?

73 Hans G0UPL


Re: New kit: 10W HF Linear PA

 

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Hello Hans

Will there be an option to order the QSX minus the PA?? I'm thinking about ordering the PA now to get it built and tested early.

73

Ray


On 09/10/18 13:28, Hans Summers wrote:

Hi all

I have now made available this new 10W HF Linear PA module which has high performance yet low cost ($26 including large heatsink).?

Features:
  • 10W output from 2 to 30MHz, using 12V Supply
  • Suitable for 10W PEP, CW or Digital modes
  • Generously-sized heatsink, will not overheat even on continuous 100% duty-cycle modes
  • 2-stage amplifier provides 26dB of gain
  • Push-pull driver and push-pull finals, for high linearity and low harmonic content
  • +/- 1dB gain flatness from 2 to 30MHz
  • 4dB down at 4m (50MHz) and 8dB down on 4m (70MHz)
  • Standard 50-ohm input and output
  • Through-hole plated PCB, all through-hole components (no Surface Mount Devices)
  • Standard inexpensive components throughout
  • Tested for 1 hour at full-power 10W, 100% continuous duty-cycle with no forced air cooling
  • Tested for 15 minutes at 20W, 100% continuous duty-cycle with no forced air cooling
  • Tested at 20V supply
  • Tested into open load, shorted load and various mismatches without instability (oscillation)
This 10W HF Linear PA module will be used in the QSX transceiver.?

73 Hans G0UPL