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making changes to the config using Putty.

 

Not sure if this has been reported or not, but while using the config menu with Putty, I was trying to configure the bands middle frequency setting nearer cw frequencies as default on switch on.?
All went ok as I was able to change four out of five. However when the fifth frequency was changed and I control/Q out of Putty. the QMX will not shut down via the on/off button. So hard disconnect of battery needed and on restart all looks good, my configured frequencies have stayed good. double click left encoder moves me up through the bands until I get to 40m band. on the next double click I again get another 40m band same frequency but very quiet, and further double click does nothing, power off does nothing.
Hard restart again required.
I have now resorted to only changing the centre frequency on my two mainly used frequencies 20 and 40 , everything works as should.
?
Not a major problem, Regards? Scotty GI0BEY


Re: QMX Assembly Manual

 

Basically, you are bottoming out the long male pins into the installed female socket. Hans shows a picture of the long male pins bottomed out in an uninstalled female socket, and mentions this on Step#1 of page 50. Your socket will have already been installed. Then the plastic former gets pushed down until it contacts the top of the female socket. The point of this is two-fold: to get an exact fit of those male pins into the female socket, no more and no less, and to properly position the former to act as one-half of the spacer underneath the control board. The little green PCB is the second half of the overall spacer underneath the control board. Everything is fit together in place, and soldered. Yes there is an excess length of pins that need to be trimmed. Step 3 and Step 4 show this. Everything seems clear to me, and made sense as I was assembling. I am not sure what you missed, other than maybe the "why" the pins are fit, spaced, soldered, and trimmed in this manner.


Re: The OSC5A2B02 OCXO - a few more comments

 

On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 03:23 PM, Mike wrote:
when set at
exactly 10Mhz the frequency was a few hz off. Probably something to do with
the SI5351 maths
This got me thinking.? Does the VFO/Signal Generator display...?
1) The frequency requested by the user
2) The actual frequency selected by the VFO/Signal generator internal algorithm and based on the SI5351 maths
The latter would be more useful as long as the user realised why it wasn't exactly what was requested
If it is the former, could this be a firmware update, either fixed or as an option?


Re: Trifiliar T401 continuity question

 

Nic, to clarify, I imagine that when you're testing for continuity between Bl and Br, you are shifting the probes around until you hear the continuity buzzer. At this point, you have mutual contact with exposed portions of the copper wire. The wire is continuous, unbroken, so you have achieved continuity that is not dependent upon good electrical connection to the circuit board pads. The electricity is flowing through the wire, and not the board traces. The solder blob of Bl probably has electrical connection with the pad, but not the wire. The solder blob on Br may or may not have electrical connection with the pad and it may or may not have electrical connection with the wire. In any event, you are able to shift the probes around and either manage to test the path from the Bl pad through Ar, Al, and then pin 7. You have also been able to shift the probes around to test the ends of the B wire. Your goal is get the connection solid enough between wire ends and pads, that you can touch the probe tip anywhere on the Br solder blob, and get easy continuity with pin 7. Then you at least know you have a good connection with everything in between that solder blob and pin 7. I don't know that you need to desolder the wire B pins, because they use the thinner wire with the far easier to burn off enamel. Just try to reflow the joint, after 10 seconds or so, circle the iron tip around the circumference of the wire and maybe give it another 5 to 10 seconds whilst doing so. Just be mindful of nearby components. If you have extra flux, add a generous amount around the joint, before doing this. That will help prevent solder bridging and keep the solder where it belongs. If no extra flux, just be careful. I was too lazy to grab my tacky flux, so when reflowing joints, I just added extra solder, relying on its flux. That meant more solder bridges and more work for me. I had the tacky flux and should have used it, but in the end I got it done, albeit with more work. Important, be sure to reflow both Bl and Br. At this point, where things stand, you have no guarantees that you have good solid connections between bare wire, solder blob, and pad, on either of those joints.? ? Sorry for the long-winded captain obvious book.


QDX Fault debugging (help)

 

Hi,

I've been using the QDX transceiver for a while, mostly in portable operations,, and very satisfied with it's performance.

In one of the usages a bad connection of the antenna ended with no power output since it, naturally I thought immediately on finals being blown up, I replace all 4 transistors.

After that the power yield is extremely low, unusably low, and I suspect the problem might be with the failure afecting the driver stage as well.

But when testing I noticed the driver signal is ok (see figure QDX_PA_Gate.png).

With a dummy load and enabling the tone transmission of WSJT-X I measured the tension at the drain of the finals and to my surprise the signals were there and they were remarkably not similar. You can see the signals on Q1,Q2,Q3,Q4 (not in the schematic but looking counterclockwise at the board from the USB and balum side). The tension seems to be similar by pairs.

Any suggestion of fixing strategy based on experience with similar behaviours you might want to share?

73 de Pedro, LU7DZ


QMX Assembly Manual

 

During assembly I struggled with page 50 of the manual which has conflicting photos and instructions that
appear to be not valid. I found the male pin plug pins were too long and needed to be trimmed by about 3 mm or so.
Also the board shown? appears to be an older REV. How did other successful builders navigate this page?. Am I missing something?

Paul DJ0CU G4ADF


Re: Electrostatic discharge precautions

 

Hi Joan,
In Germany I use a "ESD-Matte" and "ESD-Pinzetten" by Pollin Elektronik (Germany). I don't know the english word for it. You can search by Google by using this both words. So I think, that the building up the QMX-Kit is much better than the building the QDX-Kit without the ESD-Matte and ESD-Pinzetten. ?.
Vy 73 de Dc4kjs?


Re: Trifiliar T401 continuity question

 

On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 09:36 AM, Nic Heath wrote:
It's just blowing my mind I can see continuity between Bl and Br but the other tests fail.
Are you checking continuity between the cut ends of the wires or (correctly) between the PCB pads?? You can also probe between wire and its pad to further isolate an open joint.??
I haven't found anything better than ordinary sewing needles for this task; use the "sharps" kind not blunt embroidery needles.
73, Don N2VGU


Re: Trifiliar T401 continuity question

 

If your probes make good contact with conductive regions of the Bl and Br wire ends, you will see continuity. One of those ends does not have a good electrical connection to the board.


Re: No QMX Flash Drive.

 

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Yes Willie
?
Just been watching a Vid re USB C Cables!! Nightmare.
?
No, as I said I pinned the cable out from the A end to the microprocessor pins and the connection is there. If it were a charge only cable those wires would be missing.
?
What would be good, is if someone using a C to A cable that works, could specify the make, model, Part No etc.
?
?
?
Cheers
?
Ian G4GIR
?

----- Original Message -----
From: William Smith <w_smith@...>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Sent: 20/08/2023 15:56:44
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] No QMX Flash Drive.

Ah, OK, then maybe you have a USB-c charge-only cable? ?Since everyone’s standardizing on USB-c for charging things, and they don’t care about data(*) there are a lot of charge-only cables out there.

(*) To be fair, USB-c data cables (and their superset, Thunderbolt) are a nightmare, and no-one wants to buy a $10 rechargeable fan on Amazon with a $25 Thunderbolt-4-capable charge cable.

73, Willie N1JBJ

On Aug 20, 2023, at 10:50 AM, Ian G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:

I am not using a C to C, it is a C to A.


Re: #qmx @Hans: Spare parts - which to choose? #qmx

 

Frank, the Mouser website is in error with the 350mW power dissipation rating on the BS170-D75Z part. 300mW PD applies to the MMBF170, which is the SOT-23 packaging. The BS170-D75Z is TO-92 packaging, with spread legs. It has the same 830mW PD as the plain BS170, which is also TO-92 packaging. The plain BS170 differs in that the legs are straight, with 1.27mm (0.05") spacing. TheBS170-D75Z's spread legs have 2.54mm (0.10") spacing, which I believe will fit the board even better, because straight legs would need to be spread apart. Don't worry about Mouser's error, other than maybe report it with the "See an Error?" link near the top of the page.


Re: QMX with QLG2 GPS

 

OK, that's encouraging.? My QCX stops transmitting following GPS synchronization until I unplug the QLG2.? I must have missed something in the programming.? I'll review the manuals again.

Thanks,
Jerry

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 10:12:00 AM CDT, Hans Summers <hans.summers@...> wrote:


Hi Jerry
?
I'm just running my QLG2 through the USB port from a spare iPhone charger and so far it's working well.? I was hoping though to be able to leave it connected to the QCX-mini continuously for a remote and unattended CW beacon but apparently that's not possible with this design due to sharing of the same jack with the PTT function.? ?If there's a way to do this I would like to know.??

The beacon?functionality (includes CW and WSPR) is exactly what QLG2 is designed for, on both the QCX-series and QMX transceivers. QMX serial data and 1pps are connected to the transceiver (QCX-series or QMX) with a 3.5mm stereo connector. It's all in the relevant manuals.?

73 Hans G0UPL


Re: QMX with QLG2 GPS

 

Hi Jerry
?
I'm just running my QLG2 through the USB port from a spare iPhone charger and so far it's working well.? I was hoping though to be able to leave it connected to the QCX-mini continuously for a remote and unattended CW beacon but apparently that's not possible with this design due to sharing of the same jack with the PTT function.? ?If there's a way to do this I would like to know.??

The beacon?functionality (includes CW and WSPR) is exactly what QLG2 is designed for, on both the QCX-series and QMX transceivers. QMX serial data and 1pps are connected to the transceiver (QCX-series or QMX) with a 3.5mm stereo connector. It's all in the relevant manuals.?

73 Hans G0UPL


Re: QMX with QLG2 GPS

 

I'm just running my QLG2 through the USB port from a spare iPhone charger and so far it's working well.? I was hoping though to be able to leave it connected to the QCX-mini continuously for a remote and unattended CW beacon but apparently that's not possible with this design due to sharing of the same jack with the PTT function.? ?If there's a way to do this I would like to know.??

Thanks, Jerry AC5JM.

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 09:29:56 AM CDT, Hans Summers <hans.summers@...> wrote:


Hello Rob

I specifically did NOT make provision for 5V for powering a GPS for two reasons:

1) On the QCX+ and QCX-mini,?+5V is available at the tip of the PTT output connector. This was specifically designed to be compatible with the 50W PA kit which was designed to suit the QCX. It was probably a mistake to make the QCX PTT output a?+5V-active signal, which is not the accepted ham radio equipment convention, where a grounded PTT in/out is normal. But it's a mistake which is made and done and hard to back out of now.?

However QDX has the possibility for both an active +5V output to suit the 50W PA, and a grounded output to suit conventional amplifiers. These are on the tip and the ring respectively. This way the QDX can be used with either. It's important to make it usable with other amplifiers because?the 50W PA kit is single band (unless modified), whereas QDX is multi-band.?

Since QMX is also multi-band and closer really electrically to QDX, than it is to QCX-mini, I chose to go with the QDX style PTT output, not the QCX+/QCX-mini style. Therefore there is no connector available to be able to provide a?+5V output suitable for powering a QLG2.?

2) The second reason is that if I allow a?+5V connection to the outside world, then I have to provide specifications for it; for example maybe I would have to say, the?+5V output from the?+5V SMPS would need to be limited to 50mA. And how would I specify the ripple under all circumstances, and guarantee that it would suit a QLG2, and not be noisy for a QLG2, or perhaps require filtering? How would I guarantee that nothing would kill the 5V SMPS if you shorted something by mistake, or otherwise abused it??

Right now, the?+5V SMPS is inside QMX, and is powering only QMX. The microcontroller knows how much current the QMX requires on its?+5V rail, and it knows the applied supply voltage to QMX (by measurement), and it has a built-in performance curve, in other words a graph of PWM duty cycle vs supply voltage; from that it can calculate with a suitable safety margin (I currently use 15%) a maximum duty cycle and it can prevent anything going higher than that.?

This self-contained feature of the load on the SMPS, lets me apply a number of self-protection mechanisms which make it able to withstand many kinds of faults; if there is a cold joint on any pin of any of the SMPS connections, it will not cause a failure that over-volts the 3.3V or 5V rails enough to kill the components supplied by those rails. Of course you can't recklessly short or solder-bridge anything to anything and expect to always survive, but you never can anyway on any board.?

Do you see??

A 7805 voltage regulator like on QCX-series transceivers, is one thing. And probably even fine, a SMPS buck converter general purpose board that you could use to power things (though the switching noise can be a problem).?

But QMX does things in WILD ways, for performance (low receive current, without noise) and cost, and in order to be able to tame the wildness, it has to be well in control of everything! It's WILD for the single microcontroller of QMX, to be the control loop for its own 3.3V supply and the 5V supply and PIN diode supply, all being switched mode buck converters for the desired low receive current consumption.?

Yet, the wildness is adequately and elegantly tamed, by all the hardware and firmware failsafe mechanisms that I put in. All the PWM and control signals to the SMPS boards are pulled down or up by resistors so that in the absence of microcontroller CONTROL, everything is safe. In the event of cold solder joints causing signal disconnections in one or more pins, everything is safe. The firmware runs the PWM in timer peripherals that are independent of the main program execution. The control loop runs in the highest priority interrupt. If the code hangs, it never kills the system by letting the PWM control loop go off on its own. If it crashes and resets, then the SMPS boards are also in a safe state due to the hardware safeguards. Believe me, I know! Because when I do code development, of course I make many mistakes, which crash the program or hang it. But it never kills the system. I've been doing all my code development, all my various hardware testing and changes, incident Turkish coffee, and even the harsh input voltage step (see ), all on the same QMX, that never dies.

I could not do SOME of those safeguards, if the 5V rail was opened up to external use. Right now if you connected the QLG2 power supply to the?+5V pin of the SMPS, with a wire (because I intentionally provided no connector pin), then it would not work because it would draw more current and this would trigger the protection mechanism on max PWM duty cycle vs supply voltage.?

Sure, I could add a configuration parameter, for example, that disables the max-PWM check internal model. Then it would work and supply the 30-40-50mA or whatever it is the QLG2 takes. This would be well within the capability of the 5V SMPS board. But:
a) you'd lose some important safeguards and
b) I don't know if the ripple and noise would be OK for the QLG2 or would need more filtering.?

I'd suggest rather than talking me into providing a "disable 5V SMPS safeguards" parameter, you'd be better off getting?+5V for the QLG2 from somewhere else... it's quite easy to build a 7805 in line to the QLG2 and will be much nicer :-)?

73 Hans G0UPL



On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 4:28?PM <ha7rja@...> wrote:
I have the same issue. There seems to be 5V available on plug-in PCB #1, so can that be used for powering the GPS module?


Electrostatic discharge precautions

 

Hi there,

I was about to start building a QDX low band kit, but I saw that I needed to take EDS measures and I was a bit put off. What precautions am I suppose to take or situations to avoid?
Thanks for your comments!
73
Joan


Re: No QMX Flash Drive.

 

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Ah, OK, then maybe you have a USB-c charge-only cable? ?Since everyone’s standardizing on USB-c for charging things, and they don’t care about data(*) there are a lot of charge-only cables out there.

(*) To be fair, USB-c data cables (and their superset, Thunderbolt) are a nightmare, and no-one wants to buy a $10 rechargeable fan on Amazon with a $25 Thunderbolt-4-capable charge cable.

73, Willie N1JBJ

On Aug 20, 2023, at 10:50 AM, Ian G4GIR via groups.io <i.frith@...> wrote:

I am not using a C to C, it is a C to A.


Re: No QMX Flash Drive.

 

Hello Willie

Thanks for the gen.

I am not using a C to C, it is a C to A.

Albeit, I tried the pair of 5.1k'as anyhow.

But made no difference.

Cheers

Ian G4GIR

----- Original Message -----
From: William Smith <w_smith@...>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: 20/08/2023 15:42:12
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] No QMX Flash Drive.
________________________________________________________________________________

There are some issues with USB-c to USB-c cables if your computer also has USB-
c, which can be solved bby adding some 5.1K resistors to the QMX, or by using USB-A on one end (and if nessesary converting that to USB-c with an adapter, as Mitch discovered).
73, Willie N1JBJ

On Aug 20, 2023, at 10:07 AM, Mitch NK3H <mitch@...> wrote:
Not sure if this will help but I went through four USB cables before I found one that worked. In the end it was a USB-A to USB-C with an A to C converter on the computer side. 73, Mitch NK3H


Re: No QMX Flash Drive.

 

There are some issues with USB-c to USB-c cables if your computer also has USB-c, which can be solved bby adding some 5.1K resistors to the QMX, or by using USB-A on one end (and if nessesary converting that to USB-c with an adapter, as Mitch discovered).

73, Willie N1JBJ

On Aug 20, 2023, at 10:07 AM, Mitch NK3H <mitch@...> wrote:

Not sure if this will help but I went through four USB cables before I found one that worked. In the end it was a USB-A to USB-C with an A to C converter on the computer side. 73, Mitch NK3H


Re: QMX with QLG2 GPS

 

Hello Rob

I specifically did NOT make provision for 5V for powering a GPS for two reasons:

1) On the QCX+ and QCX-mini,?+5V is available at the tip of the PTT output connector. This was specifically designed to be compatible with the 50W PA kit which was designed to suit the QCX. It was probably a mistake to make the QCX PTT output a?+5V-active signal, which is not the accepted ham radio equipment convention, where a grounded PTT in/out is normal. But it's a mistake which is made and done and hard to back out of now.?

However QDX has the possibility for both an active +5V output to suit the 50W PA, and a grounded output to suit conventional amplifiers. These are on the tip and the ring respectively. This way the QDX can be used with either. It's important to make it usable with other amplifiers because?the 50W PA kit is single band (unless modified), whereas QDX is multi-band.?

Since QMX is also multi-band and closer really electrically to QDX, than it is to QCX-mini, I chose to go with the QDX style PTT output, not the QCX+/QCX-mini style. Therefore there is no connector available to be able to provide a?+5V output suitable for powering a QLG2.?

2) The second reason is that if I allow a?+5V connection to the outside world, then I have to provide specifications for it; for example maybe I would have to say, the?+5V output from the?+5V SMPS would need to be limited to 50mA. And how would I specify the ripple under all circumstances, and guarantee that it would suit a QLG2, and not be noisy for a QLG2, or perhaps require filtering? How would I guarantee that nothing would kill the 5V SMPS if you shorted something by mistake, or otherwise abused it??

Right now, the?+5V SMPS is inside QMX, and is powering only QMX. The microcontroller knows how much current the QMX requires on its?+5V rail, and it knows the applied supply voltage to QMX (by measurement), and it has a built-in performance curve, in other words a graph of PWM duty cycle vs supply voltage; from that it can calculate with a suitable safety margin (I currently use 15%) a maximum duty cycle and it can prevent anything going higher than that.?

This self-contained feature of the load on the SMPS, lets me apply a number of self-protection mechanisms which make it able to withstand many kinds of faults; if there is a cold joint on any pin of any of the SMPS connections, it will not cause a failure that over-volts the 3.3V or 5V rails enough to kill the components supplied by those rails. Of course you can't recklessly short or solder-bridge anything to anything and expect to always survive, but you never can anyway on any board.?

Do you see??

A 7805 voltage regulator like on QCX-series transceivers, is one thing. And probably even fine, a SMPS buck converter general purpose board that you could use to power things (though the switching noise can be a problem).?

But QMX does things in WILD ways, for performance (low receive current, without noise) and cost, and in order to be able to tame the wildness, it has to be well in control of everything! It's WILD for the single microcontroller of QMX, to be the control loop for its own 3.3V supply and the 5V supply and PIN diode supply, all being switched mode buck converters for the desired low receive current consumption.?

Yet, the wildness is adequately and elegantly tamed, by all the hardware and firmware failsafe mechanisms that I put in. All the PWM and control signals to the SMPS boards are pulled down or up by resistors so that in the absence of microcontroller CONTROL, everything is safe. In the event of cold solder joints causing signal disconnections in one or more pins, everything is safe. The firmware runs the PWM in timer peripherals that are independent of the main program execution. The control loop runs in the highest priority interrupt. If the code hangs, it never kills the system by letting the PWM control loop go off on its own. If it crashes and resets, then the SMPS boards are also in a safe state due to the hardware safeguards. Believe me, I know! Because when I do code development, of course I make many mistakes, which crash the program or hang it. But it never kills the system. I've been doing all my code development, all my various hardware testing and changes, incident Turkish coffee, and even the harsh input voltage step (see ), all on the same QMX, that never dies.

I could not do SOME of those safeguards, if the 5V rail was opened up to external use. Right now if you connected the QLG2 power supply to the?+5V pin of the SMPS, with a wire (because I intentionally provided no connector pin), then it would not work because it would draw more current and this would trigger the protection mechanism on max PWM duty cycle vs supply voltage.?

Sure, I could add a configuration parameter, for example, that disables the max-PWM check internal model. Then it would work and supply the 30-40-50mA or whatever it is the QLG2 takes. This would be well within the capability of the 5V SMPS board. But:
a) you'd lose some important safeguards and
b) I don't know if the ripple and noise would be OK for the QLG2 or would need more filtering.?

I'd suggest rather than talking me into providing a "disable 5V SMPS safeguards" parameter, you'd be better off getting?+5V for the QLG2 from somewhere else... it's quite easy to build a 7805 in line to the QLG2 and will be much nicer :-)?

73 Hans G0UPL



On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 4:28?PM <ha7rja@...> wrote:
I have the same issue. There seems to be 5V available on plug-in PCB #1, so can that be used for powering the GPS module?


Re: No QMX Flash Drive.

 

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Thanks Mitch,
?
I am using a C to A CABLE. So no need for any converters. I fail to see why a different cable should work.
?
The only reason I can think of is if a C to A (Charging Cable was being used), as that one is no good for DATA i.e?two of the pins not wired. Surely if the cable is a DAT Cable it should work.
?
Cheers
?
Ian G4GIR
?

----- Original Message -----
From: Mitch NK3H <mitch@...>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Sent: 20/08/2023 15:07:15
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] No QMX Flash Drive.

Not sure if this will help but I went through four USB cables before I found one that worked. In the end it was a USB-A to USB-C with an A to C converter on the computer side. 73, Mitch NK3H