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QDX: Receiving great but needs more audio output gain in order to xmit for more than 250 milliseconds.
n4qa at_hotmail.com
Hey gang. Received my assembled QDX today...Thanks Mark !
OK, so the receiver is plenty hot...I'm playing on 40m first. When I attempt to transmit - either by the 'Tune' button or by actually calling someone, the rig transmits for about 250 ms and then just stops xmitting. I found that I must operate the WSJT-X gain slider at 0dB to even achieve this truncated xmsn. The red LED blinks twice repetitively as it is indicating insufficient audio drive...I think ?! I see in the ops manual where it suggests that the slider be operated at 0 dB and that there are audio gain commands which may be sent to QDX, such as AG21 etc. I think I need to send AG99 or so. Exactly how do I do that ? Please give me the step-by-step here ! WW2FLY is getting away and I really want to work them before the special event ends in a few days ! Many thanks for any help ! 72 / 73, Bill, N4QA |
Re: #qdx No output power on any band, receive ok
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Putty works well in Linux as well.?
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Re: #qdx No output power on any band, receive ok
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Phil,
OK, now I have a clearer picture of what you are telling us.? You have a low current draw on transmit, so the power amplifier MOSFETs (BS170 Q8, 9, 10, and 11) are not drawing power.? That could be an L14 or T1 problem and other issues.? Verify that you have the input power (12, 9, or whatever you are supplying) on the 4 MOSFET drains.? If there is no power on all 4, try reflowing the connections for T1 and L14.? That is the most common problem. Did you do the continuity check when you installed T1? I should have started with the obvious.? Have you verified that the LED flashes 3 times, then pauses and repeats?? That would indicate that the audio level is not set high enough to measure the frequency.? This is not an issue if you use the Terminal Program Transmit test application.? I suggest you set up a terminal emulator on your PC to help with the diagnostics.? For Windows, I use PuTTY.? Available here: There are other options for other operating systems.? I have not used them. We can start here and see what you find.? As stated in my prior post, always have a dummy load or resonate antenna connected when the QDX is power.? This is especially true when testing for problems¡ªtransmitter test I always do with a dummy load first. 73 Evan AC9TU |
Re: Questions about adjusting QDX RF output by changing supply voltage
Hi Charles. Mine is built for 12 volts like yours. I usually run it down at 9 or 10 volts input while doing something like WSPR (1-2 watts out) and it doesn't get very hot. I run it at 12.0 or maybe slightly reduced (11.0) when?running FT-8 (approx. 4 watts out) and again no big heating issues. I am probably overly cautious compared to some.? Yes, you can adjust the supply voltage while it's powered up. I would caution you to try not to do something I once did. My power supply goes up to 35 volts or so and I quickly discovered once I had adjusted the 10s of volts setting by mistake. I usually adjust the 10ths of a volt setting. I had it at 30 volts for 3 seconds while receiving and fortunately the regulators and all survived. I don't recommend testing yours that way :-)... good luck ... 73 ... Ron On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 9:57 AM Charles Johnson <cjohnson@...> wrote:
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Re: #qdx No output power on any band, receive ok
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On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 12:01 PM, Evan Hand wrote:
I am not sure I understand what you are reporting.? When you say the VSWR meter doesn't budge, do you mean when in setting the forward power mode??Sorry, I misspoke, I was using a?Thruline Wattmeter, set up to measure forward power.? The QDX was connected to a dummy load through the wattmeter, and I was clicking on the 'tune' button in wsjtx to key up the radio.? It also helps to know the firmware installed on the QDX.? You can get this using the terminal program on the startup page or reading the file names when the QDX is in update mode.I'll update with that info later this evening. It would help if you could tell us what the input to the QDX current readings are on receive and transmit.?If memory serves, the radio was drawing about 0.12 amps in receive and about 0.25 amps on transmit.? I suggest you have a dummy load connected to your QDX when doing any testing, as it is easy to damage the BS170 MOSFET finals.While testing I was using the dummy load kit from Hans Since PSKReporter has spotted you, you are putting out some power.I haven't tested it with an antenna since before I connected the wattmeter, maybe it worked briefly and then stopped because it was damaged.? I suppose it's possible I'm not using the wattmeter correctly. Thanks,? Phil KC2WAN |
Re: Artwork for "Manual Days" Chinese Antenna Tuner
I bought one Chinese antenna tuner and soon found out that I could not install the variable capacitors and their knobs. But in my collection of ancient radio parts I found suitable ersatz.? So I built the circuit and found that losses were quite high. Using a toroid from Amidon improved things. Then I decided to change the circuit from T to L with a series inductance because I do not like that small parallel inductance of the T-network. So the only things that remained from the original tuner were the pretty case and the SWR meter which I supplemented with a moving coil meter to make it more sensitive and usable in bright sunlight.
The 500pF variable capacitor C1 in series with the coil compensates an adjustable part of the coil inductance. So the inductance is not limited to 12 discrete values. When tuning for lowest SWR one begins with C1=500pF. |
Questions about adjusting QDX RF output by changing supply voltage
Greetings all, ? I've no wish to stir up the debate about which supply voltage QDXs should be built for, but in reading the manual, I saw where it says that the power slider in WSJT-X has no effect on the QDX and that any RF output reduction should be accomplished by lowering the supply voltage. So... ? 1) For those who have done the 12V build and adjust the supply voltage to change the RF output, what problems (if any) have you had? ? 2) Is the QDX tolerant of supply voltage change while powered up or do I need to turn it off before I make a change? ? An example of why I would want to reduce the RF output is that I normally run ~1W when operating as a WSPR beacon, yet I usually operate FT8 at 2.5-3W, sometimes going up to 5W. ? I appreciate the information! ? Charles Johnson KF4AYT |
Re: #qdx No output power on any band, receive ok
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I am not sure I understand what you are reporting.? When you say the VSWR meter doesn't budge, do you mean when in setting the forward power mode??
It also helps to know the firmware installed on the QDX.? You can get this using the terminal program on the startup page or reading the file names when the QDX is in update mode. It would help if you could tell us what the input to the QDX current readings are on receive and transmit.? I suggest you have a dummy load connected to your QDX when doing any testing, as it is easy to damage the BS170 MOSFET finals. Since PSKReporter has spotted you, you are putting out some power. 73 Evan AC9TU |
Re: QDX with Bluetooth?
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#qdx No output power on any band, receive ok
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I have the QDX from last December (rev 2 I think?).? Somehow I managed to show up on PSK reporter for the nearest monitoring stations on my first try, but nobody was responding to my CQ or acknowledging my replies.? Hooked it up to a VSWR meter and the needle doesn't budge when I hit the 'tune' button in wsjtx, tested in both 20m and 40m.? Receive seems to work fine, I'm decoding ft8 just fine, but all I can do is listen.? Any recommendations for where to start with troubleshooting??
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Stephen Sherer
Tim,
Your doing great. When I built my 50w amp I needed help with the troubleshooting before initial startup. Mistakes are expensive both in terms of time and replacement parts. I found a great Youtube video for troubleshooting the 50w amp. What I found were simple mistakes that I repeatedly overlooked. Sometimes it takes a second set of eyes. Not having more than two, I switched gears and approached from another perspective. I found a very nice youtube video by NA5Y for troubleshooting or as in my case just making the final check before first power-up, which is what I did. It was a good thing I did to. I found several simple mistakes I made as a result of watching the video and following the tutorial. I don't know if the mistakes would have been catastrophic or not. What I did learn is to approach the challenge from a different perspective than what I was already doing. The video goes through a methodical approach with excellent explanations along the way so that I learned something in the process.? I believe you will appreciate this video:? -- KE4LJH Steve,? Florida |
Re: Current consumption
There have been two major component changes in the QDX over the course of its availability that may affect its power consumption. The first is the synthesizer chip. Version 1 used the Si5351A from Silicon Labs. Versions 2 and 3 use the MS5351M from Hangzhou Ruminang Tech, due to unavailability?of the SiLabs (now Skyworks) parts. According to a report, the MS5351M uses about 8mA more current than the Si5351A. Hans Summers reports that the MS5351M has slightly better phase noise performance. The other is the audio codec. A different one is used in Version 3 because the one used in the previous versions was discontinued. One other switch may have decreased current consumption slightly in versions 2 and 3. Version 1 had pullup resistors on some open collector outputs. In versions 2 and 3, those resistors are removed; instead, the firmware activates the on-chip pullups. Loading newer firmware on a version 1 board may increase power consumption a tad because both sets of pullups are active, though you can remove the unneeded resistors from the board if you want. On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 10:52 AM Don DeGregori <ddegreg1@...> wrote: I believe the early version of QDX used a different chip. When it became unavailable |
Re: QDX with Bluetooth?
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Looks like there are USB-over-ethernet devices that do this:?? ? |
Re: Suggestion to speed-up QDX serial port development
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Chris, Am 09.08.22 um 00:26 schrieb crichmon
via groups.io:
Nah, not really. I thought, it be the kind of gimmick we techno-nerds like, but anyhow, I had some fun fiddling with the undocumented API. ... but of course you are still free to contribute, we need to keep Hans spirits high to continue to get good kits & upgrades from him ... ?? - Here you go again, if you like: Vy 73 Stefan.
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Re: QDX with Bluetooth?
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The QDX requires a specific "driver(s)".? There just isn't any direct Bluetooth interface (that I know of) with this kind of driver option
In order to avoid a driver, you would need to directly stream the USB data over Bluetooth.? ?? A USB-B streaming to Bluetooth device (didn't find any) 'could' provide exact USB stream at the other end of the Bluetooth connection, ????? and the driver could be on that second computer. ?? I just haven't seen any device like that.? All Bluetooth dongles are USB-A and have a specific driver themselves. NOTE: there are audio to Bluetooth device, and serial (CAT) to Bluetooth devices, but with the QDX, both of these are on one USB stream ??????????? and the driver MUST separate them into 2 devices that the computer understands. That forces you to connect the QDX directly to a computer (Single Board Computer like a Pi works). At that point, it is probably better to use WiFi rather than Bluetooth.? Most SBC (including Pi Zero W) can be easily setup as a "WiFi HotSpot". Using a SBC using WiFi options: 1.? With VNC on the SBC, the application run on the SBC, "right at the QDX". ???? No need to transfer the audio and CAT information back and forth to your location - with any issues that could cause. 2.? I am sure there are tools for audio and CAT over TCP/IP - if preferred -- Rob KB8RCO |
Re: Qdx terminal tx test
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Thanks Hans,
not when VNCing to a headless Raspi. :(. Tried it via a direct connection to a laptop and it does as you say. Guess I will have to find how to do ¡®sticky keys¡¯ via VNC link :). 73 Ken g4apb? |