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Re: QCX firmware 1.00e release

 

Thanks for the update Hans.

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On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 3:49 AM, Hans Summers <hans.summers@...> wrote:
Hi all

QCX firmware version 1.00e is released. You don't need to upgrade unless you
particularly want/need one of these changes. Changes in this version:

- Bug fix: stored message sending now sends at current keyer speed (not
stored default)
- Bug fix: WSPR tones in the second half of the transmission were
potentially corrupted

As usual, you can download the .hex file from
/g/QRPLabs/files/Firmware%20for%20QCX%20kit/1.00e or
purchase a programmed chip in the shop if you wish


All orders sent out from now onwards (and some of those sent out recently),
are using this 1.00e chip.

73 Hans G0UPL



QCX firmware 1.00e release

 

Hi all

QCX firmware version 1.00e is released. You don't need to upgrade unless you particularly want/need one of these changes. Changes in this version:

- Bug fix: stored message sending now sends at current keyer speed (not stored default)
- Bug fix: WSPR tones in the second half of the transmission were potentially corrupted

As usual, you can download the .hex file from /g/QRPLabs/files/Firmware%20for%20QCX%20kit/1.00e or purchase a programmed chip in the shop if you wish

All orders sent out from now onwards (and some of those sent out recently), are using this 1.00e chip.

73 Hans G0UPL


Re: QCX Manual

 

Hew VA7HU wrote...

I got my kit last week and just getting ready to start
assembling on the weekend. I have printed the whole manual.
I still haven't wound any of the toroids yet, but I have the
80M version otherwise done and and I'm about 3/4 of the way
through the 40M version. Which band did you go for? As I
mentioned, I've just been viewing the manuals on an iPad.
I can zoom and you can put post-it notes on pages you
quickly want to get to!

--
73 Keith VE7GDH


Re: QCX20M #585 Transmitter Inoperative

 

Hi Dave

Have you checked for a short from IC3C pins 4, 10 to Ground??

I agree, testing Clk2 when it is unconnected would be a good idea.?

73 Hans G0UPL

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Dave Lear <de.ne5dl@...> wrote:

I have built #585 and the receive section is working along with the display and the sub menu items. The rig aligned as per the manual. The keyer and side tone are working.

?

However, the transmitter is not working. CLK0 and CLK1 are displaying quadrature wave forms. But here is no CLK2 output. I isolated IC1-pin 6 and still no output. So I decided to strip out IC1 and its associated components and substitute an Adafruit 5351 breakout board (didn’t realize that QRP Labs also has a similar breakout board). I changed the 27mHz crystal from the QCX to the Adafruit board in place of the 25mHz SMD Adafruit crystal.

?

CLK0 and CLK1 are operative but still no CLK2. I disconnected pin 6 again and still no output. Since the same condition appeared in both approaches I’m suspecting IC3 may be faulty. I do have a second Adafruit board and could try the same procedure to see if an unconnected CLK2 pin would have an output.

?

Any suggestions ?

?

73, Dave NE5DL



Re: Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! I killed my QCX receiver!

 

Hi Dean

It sounds to me that you probably fried IC4, the FST3253, which is the mixer (Quadrature Sampling Detector, a.k.a. Tayloe Detector). If that is blown, the op-amps would be just amplifying noise, then filtering it with the 200Hz filter... it could explain the lack of signals. You could use the onboard DVM to take a DC voltage reading at pins 2, 3, 5 and 6 of IC5, these should be around 2.5V (approximately midrail) - if they are not, then again it points to a fried FST3253.?

You say TX is working, and that implies the Si5351A is Ok. But TX only tests Clk2 of the Si5351A. So you should check Clk0 and Clk1. You can easily do this using the onboard test equipment of the QCX itself. Use "9.6 Signal gen." and set the signal generator to, say, 4MHz. Then go to "9.5 Frequency" which is the frequency counter. You should be able to hold a wire from the "Freq" test input pin, to Clk0 and Clk1 and measure 4MHz, shown on the display. Then you will know that the Si5351A is Ok.?

All the op-amps run with the full supply voltage anyway, not 5V. The only components running on 5V are the LCD, IC2 (Processor), IC1 (Si5351A) via two series diodes, IC4 (FST3253) and IC3 (74ACT00).?

If you find out that the FST3253 is the fried item, it should be possible to replace it with a new one. They are easily sourced. I could send you one (free of charge) but that would take time to reach you... up to you!

Good luck...

73 Hans G0UPL

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:09 AM, K5DH <k5dh@...> wrote:
OK, folks.? This is going to be the most stupid thing you've heard all day.? Maybe all week.? Or maybe in your lifetime.? Bear with me.? I have some 'splaining to do.? This will be a long read.? And I need some advice.?

I found a great little inexpensive plastic enclosure that the QCX fits nicely in.? That will be the subject of a future post, however.?

Once I had the QCX CCA mounted in the enclosure, I found that the tab of the 7805 regulator was too tall and the enclosure lid would not fit.? I removed the regulator from the CCA and looked at the leads.? They are thicker near the body of the regulator, necking down into a smaller diameter about 3/16 inch away from the body.? I took an emery board and carefully filed the leads down so that they were a uniform thickness all the way along their length.? This allowed the regulator to slip into place flush with the CCA, which gave me enough headroom to close the lid on my enclosure.? Neato!? Just what I was hoping for!? So I soldered the regulator into place on the CCA...? BACKWARDS.? Yep.? I actually did this.? And I didn't notice it.? Now, I'm no noob.? This ain't my first rodeo.? I'm a Senior RF/Microwave Test Engineer with 38 years of experience at a major aerospace company and I've been a ham for over 40 years.? I was a bit distracted due to non-radio related matters.? Still, this kind of thing just doesn't happen to me.? I'm usually very, very thorough!? Well, as I said, I didn't notice the mistake.? I powered up the QCX.? The display lit up for an instant, then the 1 A fuse in my power lead failed (note to everyone -- ALWAYS use a fuse in your power lead because you never know when something unexpected will occur).? I started looking for a cause, and I almost immediately noticed the incorrectly installed regulator.? DUH!!!? I removed it again.? Unfortunately, the plated-through vias pulled out of the board.? Damn!? I looked over the board and it looked like it should still work, so I went ahead and soldered the regulator back into place, correctly this time, and powered up the QCX again.? The display lit up.? I had audio in the headset.? I hit the key, and I had full transmit power.? The VFO was right on frequency.? The CW note sounded clean in my K3's receiver.? I was overjoyed!? That is, until I realized that I didn't hear any signals coming in on the QCX.? I switched the antenna over to the K3, and the pan scope showed strong signals all across the band.? The QCX wasn't hearing any of them.? I switched K3 into my dummy load, dialed the K3's transmitter down to 0.1 Watts, and hit the key.? The QCX did not hear the K3's signal.? CRAP!? I set up the QCX to allow me to run through the alignment checks again.? It ain't hearing itself.? No 700 Hz tone.? No received signal at all.? I get good audio, and it has the characteristic sound of the 200 Hz filter.? Everything seems to be functioning correctly.? But the receiver is not hearing a bloody thing.? What the devil did I kill?? I can't believe this!? I was sooooo close to being all finished with this project, and now it's broken!?

Anyone have a suggestion as to where to look for the failure?? This one has me stumped.?

73/72,
Dean K5DH? --? very depressed!
20m QCX msn 612



Re: QCX 80 Transceiver - Connection for a Straight Key

 

Hi?

Yes, I can add that to the next firmware version - to only key in straight mode using the tip connection; then if a mono plug shorts the ring to ground, it would not cause a problem. I can add this as a configuration so it can be enabled/disabled.?

It appears Robin, you are also saying a stereo plug doesn't work? This should not be the case - the connectors are for 3.5mm stereo plugs!

73 Hans G0UPL
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On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 2:04 AM, <nickpullen@...> wrote:
Actually, I am thinking this can be resolved in firmware:
If you are running is straight key mode (Menu 4.1 Keyer mode: Straight), then the QCX must just ignore the ring or "Dah" input...
Only when you enable other keyer modes does it use the ring input for dah.

74, Nick VK4PLN



Re: QCX Manual

 

Lets us know how the toroids go Keith. I got my kit last week? and just getting ready to start assembling on the weekend. I have printed the whole manual.

73 - Hew
VA7HU

On 2017-12-06 10:44 AM, Keith VE7GDH wrote:
Vernon VE1VDM wrote...

My kit should be here in a day or two so will be
printing it off soon...
I didn't print any of the manuals. I just opened them up
on a tablet (iPad) and used it while working on the QCX etc.
I'm about half way through the second one, but haven't wound
the toroids for the first one yet. Procrastination? Fear?
I'll decide tomorrow.


Re: Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! I killed my QCX receiver!

 

Hello Dean,

If you think thats stupid. Try checking the frequency of CLK0 with the 12 volt pin on the three pin header. Instead of the freq. pin next to the clock.

I would start with the mixer. And work your way down the signal chain towards the unity amp.

-Tomasz (N6SRN)


Re: QCX Build in a ALU case

 

Beautiful work, Nick!? Great job.? It looks very professional.?

73/72,
Dean K5DH
20m QCX msn 612


Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! I killed my QCX receiver!

 

OK, folks.? This is going to be the most stupid thing you've heard all day.? Maybe all week.? Or maybe in your lifetime.? Bear with me.? I have some 'splaining to do.? This will be a long read.? And I need some advice.?

I found a great little inexpensive plastic enclosure that the QCX fits nicely in.? That will be the subject of a future post, however.?

Once I had the QCX CCA mounted in the enclosure, I found that the tab of the 7805 regulator was too tall and the enclosure lid would not fit.? I removed the regulator from the CCA and looked at the leads.? They are thicker near the body of the regulator, necking down into a smaller diameter about 3/16 inch away from the body.? I took an emery board and carefully filed the leads down so that they were a uniform thickness all the way along their length.? This allowed the regulator to slip into place flush with the CCA, which gave me enough headroom to close the lid on my enclosure.? Neato!? Just what I was hoping for!? So I soldered the regulator into place on the CCA...? BACKWARDS.? Yep.? I actually did this.? And I didn't notice it.? Now, I'm no noob.? This ain't my first rodeo.? I'm a Senior RF/Microwave Test Engineer with 38 years of experience at a major aerospace company and I've been a ham for over 40 years.? I was a bit distracted due to non-radio related matters.? Still, this kind of thing just doesn't happen to me.? I'm usually very, very thorough!? Well, as I said, I didn't notice the mistake.? I powered up the QCX.? The display lit up for an instant, then the 1 A fuse in my power lead failed (note to everyone -- ALWAYS use a fuse in your power lead because you never know when something unexpected will occur).? I started looking for a cause, and I almost immediately noticed the incorrectly installed regulator.? DUH!!!? I removed it again.? Unfortunately, the plated-through vias pulled out of the board.? Damn!? I looked over the board and it looked like it should still work, so I went ahead and soldered the regulator back into place, correctly this time, and powered up the QCX again.? The display lit up.? I had audio in the headset.? I hit the key, and I had full transmit power.? The VFO was right on frequency.? The CW note sounded clean in my K3's receiver.? I was overjoyed!? That is, until I realized that I didn't hear any signals coming in on the QCX.? I switched the antenna over to the K3, and the pan scope showed strong signals all across the band.? The QCX wasn't hearing any of them.? I switched K3 into my dummy load, dialed the K3's transmitter down to 0.1 Watts, and hit the key.? The QCX did not hear the K3's signal.? CRAP!? I set up the QCX to allow me to run through the alignment checks again.? It ain't hearing itself.? No 700 Hz tone.? No received signal at all.? I get good audio, and it has the characteristic sound of the 200 Hz filter.? Everything seems to be functioning correctly.? But the receiver is not hearing a bloody thing.? What the devil did I kill?? I can't believe this!? I was sooooo close to being all finished with this project, and now it's broken!?

Anyone have a suggestion as to where to look for the failure?? This one has me stumped.?

73/72,
Dean K5DH? --? very depressed!
20m QCX msn 612


Re: QCX 80 Transceiver - Connection for a Straight Key

 

Actually, I am thinking this can be resolved in firmware:
If you are running is straight key mode (Menu 4.1 Keyer mode: Straight), then the QCX must just ignore the ring or "Dah" input...
Only when you enable other keyer modes does it use the ring input for dah.

74, Nick VK4PLN


Re: QCX 80 Transceiver - Connection for a Straight Key

 

I added a mono jack on mine or you can use a stereo to mono adapter to use a straight key or external keyer. A mono plug inserted creates a short.

?

I recently built a 1-watter QRP kit that uses a "smart jack" - it automatically places the keyer in straight key mode when a mono plug is inserted. Something like that would be nice with the QCX.

Steve, N4IAG

?


Re: QCX20M #585 Transmitter Inoperative

Arv Evans
 

It might be interesting if someone would write a set of test programs that supported
individual function testing.? In this case the code would activate only CLK-2 on the
Si5351a and thus allow signal tracing to determine if the IC was bad, wiring was
bad, or configuration was bad, or possibly original software had a glitch and was
not activating CLK-2.?
_._


On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Dave Lear <de.ne5dl@...> wrote:

I have built #585 and the receive section is working along with the display and the sub menu items. The rig aligned as per the manual. The keyer and side tone are working.

?

However, the transmitter is not working. CLK0 and CLK1 are displaying quadrature wave forms. But here is no CLK2 output. I isolated IC1-pin 6 and still no output. So I decided to strip out IC1 and its associated components and substitute an Adafruit 5351 breakout board (didn’t realize that QRP Labs also has a similar breakout board). I changed the 27mHz crystal from the QCX to the Adafruit board in place of the 25mHz SMD Adafruit crystal.

?

CLK0 and CLK1 are operative but still no CLK2. I disconnected pin 6 again and still no output. Since the same condition appeared in both approaches I’m suspecting IC3 may be faulty. I do have a second Adafruit board and could try the same procedure to see if an unconnected CLK2 pin would have an output.

?

Any suggestions ?

?

73, Dave NE5DL



Re: QCX 80 Transceiver - Connection for a Straight Key

 

Hi Robin.
I have experienced this with other setups as well. A mono plug in a stereo socket will cause the ring and ground of the socket to short, thus keying a "dah".

Its simple to a stereo plug...

Cheers.


QCX20M #585 Transmitter Inoperative

Dave Lear
 

I have built #585 and the receive section is working along with the display and the sub menu items. The rig aligned as per the manual. The keyer and side tone are working.

?

However, the transmitter is not working. CLK0 and CLK1 are displaying quadrature wave forms. But here is no CLK2 output. I isolated IC1-pin 6 and still no output. So I decided to strip out IC1 and its associated components and substitute an Adafruit 5351 breakout board (didn’t realize that QRP Labs also has a similar breakout board). I changed the 27mHz crystal from the QCX to the Adafruit board in place of the 25mHz SMD Adafruit crystal.

?

CLK0 and CLK1 are operative but still no CLK2. I disconnected pin 6 again and still no output. Since the same condition appeared in both approaches I’m suspecting IC3 may be faulty. I do have a second Adafruit board and could try the same procedure to see if an unconnected CLK2 pin would have an output.

?

Any suggestions ?

?

73, Dave NE5DL


Re: U3S drift/chirp - again!

 

Ian,
I did some measurements on my U3S with OCXO tonight. Calibrated a warm TS590S (TCXO) on air 5MHz and to my rubidium 10MHz to within 1Hz in WSJT-X. Condx bad for 30/20m beacons tonight.
Listened with the 590 (small antenna on the bench) on the 27MHz crystal and found it to be slightly off for some reason, the U3S repeatedly calibrated to 26 998 040 and the 590/wsjtx said 26 998 048 (0.3ppm). This is about the same 3Hz someone reported for the GPS ProgRock at 10MHz, IIRC it was 2Hz low ? Anyways, this might be within drift of all components here.
Started some WSPR2 transmission on 6m without LPF and into a dummy load, 60sec calibration and 60s idle (park mode 3). The 27MHz frequency variation was less than 1Hz, a fast jump up some 0.5Hz when the WSPR started and peaking in the end of the transmission. Slowly going down in the calibration (almost flattened out) and then lowered some 0.1Hz more when idling and returning to 0.2Hz above the last idling frequency. Repeated cycles made the frequency return to almost the same as the previous.
Anyways, the OCXO is a quite good module if you want to have a stable reference on the higher frequencies with U3(S).

If someone wants better accuracy and logs I can perhaps throw together the HP53131 running on the rubidium and listening to Clk1 output from the OCXO in the U3S. But Clk1 is only enabled during idling/parking?
Or if there's some better way to make the U3S keep calibrating and outputting a 10MHz (6.75MHz?) that I can measure with the HP.
Maybe I can try to mount the OCXO on the ProgRock and having it connected to the GPS... tell me if this is interesting to someone other than myself :D
73's


Re: QCX Manual

 

Shirley KE1L wrote...

Most of the toroids are easy...
Thanks for the encouragement. I started with the
80M QCX. I hear those ones are easier to wind - hi!
I think I'll wind the toroids for the 40M version
first (half way done) before going back and finishing
off the first one.

--
73 Keith VE7GDH


Re: QCX 20m - Almost done... can't wait

 

Dave G3WUN wrote...

I don't know if you are happy with SMD construction
but I feel it is fine even as a first SMD project.
It started some months ago when I viewed a view videos
that made hot air tools & SMDs to be not quite as difficult
to use as most of us think they are. I went looking for
an SMD kit (I've never made circuit boards... well, not
successfully) and I found the BITX-40. However, all the
SMD parts are already mounted on the board. I have one
and I'm about to do a few mods to it.

It was on the BITX support list that I heard about the
QCX. I had probably been to the QRP Labs site before, but
hadn't ordered anything prior to the QCX. I don't have
one on the air yet (enclosure, toroids) but I'm getting
close. It would be "full circle" to actually put an SMD
kit together. So far, I've only worked on some practice
kits (varying degrees of success... tiny parts were very
difficult, larger parts easy, smallish ICs (actually just
one so far) a zillion times times easier than I thought
it would be. The 80M and 40M QCXs have been fun to work
on and they will force me to brush up on my very rusty CW.
Afterwards, I will be on the look-out for something using
SMDs. The Proficio SDR transceiver looks interesting.
Thanks for your comments on the MultusSDR kits.

--
73 Keith VE7GDH


Re: FT8 for U3?

 

Good point Jim, I agree 100%.


From: James Zelazny jr <wtfbsyt@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] FT8 for U3?

Come to think of it...this is QRP Labs and about the U3S kit.Lets remember what QRP is ...
QRP operation is not 20,30.40.50+ watts like QSO modes are usually abused.When I say abused I mean 30+ watts on 20/30m or any other band that will work fine @ 1 watt.After all,what fun is it any other way? May as well make a phone call and get the same thrill of it.I know I can setup FT8 right now,pump in 30 watts and make QSO`s all day long on 20/30m...but I find that boring and too easy.I can do the same thing with PSK63...just add power :)
My point is simple.Using the "QRP" Labs for an FT8 beacon will never interfere with QSO`s since it is such low power.Those of us using the QRP kits have no real choice but to move where the receiving stations are.Again,JT9/JT65 and all the rest are abandoned soon as a new mode comes out.What good is running a QRP beacon if there are no receiving stations to spot it? All I have to do is look on PSKREPORTER and run through the modes to see who is actually there.So far,looking grim except for FT8.Sort of forces QRP enthusiasts to also migrate to where the most population is right?
Not sure about anyone else,but finding spots from a 20mw signal feels pretty good.
However...why not more operators utilized 2/6/10/70cm bands and drop 50 watts into that? Sounds much more challenging in my opinion and achievement.
MSK144 was doing really well for some time...but now looks it too has dimmed out.
Just my opinion and nothing more.
Jim



Re: FT8 for U3?

 

Come to think of it...this is QRP Labs and about the U3S kit.Lets remember what QRP is ...
QRP operation is not 20,30.40.50+ watts like QSO modes are usually abused.When I say abused I mean 30+ watts on 20/30m or any other band that will work fine @ 1 watt.After all,what fun is it any other way? May as well make a phone call and get the same thrill of it.I know I can setup FT8 right now,pump in 30 watts and make QSO`s all day long on 20/30m...but I find that boring and too easy.I can do the same thing with PSK63...just add power :)
My point is simple.Using the "QRP" Labs for an FT8 beacon will never interfere with QSO`s since it is such low power.Those of us using the QRP kits have no real choice but to move where the receiving stations are.Again,JT9/JT65 and all the rest are abandoned soon as a new mode comes out.What good is running a QRP beacon if there are no receiving stations to spot it? All I have to do is look on PSKREPORTER and run through the modes to see who is actually there.So far,looking grim except for FT8.Sort of forces QRP enthusiasts to also migrate to where the most population is right?
Not sure about anyone else,but finding spots from a 20mw signal feels pretty good.
However...why not more operators utilized 2/6/10/70cm bands and drop 50 watts into that? Sounds much more challenging in my opinion and achievement.
MSK144 was doing really well for some time...but now looks it too has dimmed out.
Just my opinion and nothing more.
Jim