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Two SMD component questions regarding a QMX+

 

D505 has an odd appearance, it's missing the T4 label and appears damaged, but tests fine with a multimeter diode tester

The 331 SMD inductor in the second photo has a missing bit on the top.

Should either of these be replaced?

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New QMX died while listening

 

I received my fully assembled QMX about a week ago, but dont have a mic, or a cw key yet.? I got the high bands since I am a tech so i could use 10m now, and planning on getting my general in june/july.? so all i have done is listen a bit.? I was hoping to try digital modes with it sunday afternoon.? but sunday morning, i turned it on to listen again and about 5 minutes in i change a few bands and then i hear a sharp sound out of my speaker and the radio goes dead.? never to power on again.? double checked the power supply which was good.? even tried a second one and same thing, no power.? i took some multimeter readings while it was unplugged and power doesn't seem to be shorted to ground.? however measuring resistance between antenna and ground is very low resistance, like under 1 ohm.? i haven't opened it up yet as i haven't heard back from Hans.? not sure what next steps would be.
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Thanks for the help / direction.
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Ted


Re: Dreaded dead transmit from SSB Calibration routine

 

Thank you, Stan.? I thought this might be the case.? ?Thankfully nothing seemed to have gone wrong from the calibration of my knock-around QMX.? Already had replaced the BS170s on that one last year after some tinkering went wrong.??
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What is lost in performance by not running the calibration routine, but still enabling CESSB, compression, and adjusting mic equalization???
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I am mainly a CW operator, but was curious about the CESSB mode, which has worked surprisingly well for me.? But just don't want to risk damaging my daily-driver QMX for something that I will rarely use.
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Re: QMX+ Pulse in headphones on TX

 

First the simple questions:
1) Are you sure you are not somehow stuck in CW mode, and hearing the pulses of 'dits' or 'dahs' from the keyer?? Maybe change the keyer speed and see if the pulsing also changes...
2) Does the pulsing stop if you remove the connector from the mic/paddle jack?? (and just do Tune SWR transmit)
2) Which hardware revision is your QMX+ kit, rev 1, 2, or 3?
3) Can you connect to a terminal emulator (PuTTY or TeraTerm) and bring up the terminal diagnostics?? You should be able to.? It would be helpful to see a screenshot of the diagnostics page both with 'T' pressed for transmit, and in receive mode.? Also running the PA mod test and LPF/SWR sweeps on a chosen band would likely provide useful info to track down the problem.
Stan KC7XE


Re: New QMX+ Calibration victim

 

Jonas,
It is very uncommon for IC501/IC502 to fail, but quite common for IC503 to fail with blown finals.
So I would first lift a leg of IC503 that connects to the output of IC501 or IC502, and make sure it is not some failure in IC503 that causes the IC501/IC502 outputs to look bad.? Failures in ICs can affect their inputs as well as their outputs.
Stan KC7XE


QMX+ Pulse in headphones on TX

 

Hi guys

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I have built a QMX+?

Wound for 12V.

FW 1_02_000

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From the get go, on TX, I have in my headphones a pulsing sound. No tone to it.

It¡¯s a fast pace pulse. Maybe 3-4hz. When using the SWR tune tool the led on my ZM-2 will flash at the same rate.

Keying the mic and listening on a SDR I can hear the pulse in the background. I am unable to hear it in a CW tone on the SDR but it is in my headphones on SSB and CW.

The pulse does not toggle the rf, it just seems to be embedded in it.

On the face of it. It transmits fine.

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Randomly I get ear bending white noise on start up.

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(My QMX build went fine and its functioning well, go figure)

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Hoping someone might have a pointer on this.

Have dummy load, dvm and power is meter on the way¡­.

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Thanks in advance. Ian. ZL1HIM


Re: Dreaded dead transmit from SSB Calibration routine

 

Two comments:
1.? If calibrated at a lower excitation voltage then operated at higher excitation there will be co compensations for the higher voltage.? This is the same as if a calibration does not complete.? Hans assures us this is fine if not perfect.
2.? At 80m and particularly 160m at full power the voltages caused by reflections from the LPFs back into the BS170 exceed the manufacturers rating, so if your not competent at replacing BS170s that may fail I ould not calibrate for those frequencies.
Unfortunately I have misplaced the voltage pictures.


Re: Qmx L501 inductor Partially broken

 

That's too bad.? This is the first one I've heard of with the wire broken from the factory.? Chips off the top are common, and don't affect performance.
If the broken wire happens to be from an outer winding (rather than the inside), you can readily fix it by unwinding a turn or two from the coil and soldering the wire to the end of the adjacent capacitor (where the connection goes per the schematic).? I have done this on one of my units when my poor handling broke the coil wire.? A turn or two missing from the coil doesn't affect overall QMX performance.
Stan KC7XE


Re: Dreaded dead transmit from SSB Calibration routine

 

Thats what I said I have to reach for perfection in my build couldn't help myself ?


Re: Dreaded dead transmit from SSB Calibration routine

 

No, Mike, you don't want to do that, unless you also want to run the QMX at that lower voltage.
This is because the calibration routines store the phase compensation values for voltages across the full modulation range - and you don't want the high voltage ones to be empty, since it may cause distortion when those voltages are used in operation.? So you want to run the calibration at the highest source voltage that you will run your QMX in operation.
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Note that the majority of QMX/QMX+ devices have no problems with the calibration.? I have 2 QMX and 2 QMX+, on which I have run the calibration many times without any issues.? [I ran them many times during the beta period, due to updates and working around early calibration problems.]? So the odds are in your favor.
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But for some as-of-yet-unknown reason, there is something about certain QMX/QMX+ builds/units that makes them sensitive to the calibration procedure, and the finals and sometimes the PA voltage modulation transistor Q507 burn out.? Hans already made several changes in the firmware to reduce the chance of it happening, but for some reason on a select few QMX* it still happens.? Some conjecture that it is because of already-weakened finals, an already-failed Q507 (but in the release code Hans put in a check for that one), voltage spikes from L502, a poor connection to the dummy load, or other build-related issues - but nobody really knows.
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So if you definitely do not want to take any chance of breaking your QMX*, don't do the calibration.? The SSB performance of QMX* will still be very good. ? If you have a greater risk tolerance, and are willing to change the very inexpensive PA transistors if they do blow, then certainly do the calibration and enjoy the 'better SSB performance' that is promised.
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Stan KC7XE


Re: Qmx L501 inductor Partially broken

 

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On May 20, 2025, at 4:41?PM, Luke via groups.io <acqvam200@...> wrote:

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Thanks Richard for the reply, but further checking also highlighted the thread breakage. Honestly, I don't understand how it happened to be and it's not cikpa of transport. I'll ask Hans S¨¹uto to solve the problem.... I was excited to get started.
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Gary W0CKI


Re: Dreaded dead transmit from SSB Calibration routine

 

Would it help to feed the QMX under update with a lower voltage, so as to reduce the strain on the BS170's during calibration?? For example, if I feed my 12V QMX with 9V, the power drops by about half.? I assume some of the issues during calibration are due to high transmit duty cycles that occur during the calibration process.??
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I did successfully run calibration on my knock-around QMX.? Fed it to a 50 Ohm dummy load and didn't encounter any issues.? But when I update my daily-driver QMX, would reducing the supply voltage help to add margin during calibration???


Re: Qmx L501 inductor Partially broken

 

Thanks Richard for the reply, but further checking also highlighted the thread breakage. Honestly, I don't understand how it happened to be and it's not cikpa of transport. I'll ask Hans S¨¹uto to solve the problem.... I was excited to get started.


Re: Dreaded dead transmit from SSB Calibration routine

 

Of course I know he said this.? But what the heck.


On Tue, May 20, 2025, 6:28?PM Richard Dyer via <rdyer39=[email protected]> wrote:
Do not do it if your not comfortable.? Hans said calibration is not required and the unit works fine in SSB without it.


Re: Estimate for Release of version 1.2 of ABS solution for QMX+

 

ABS version 1.2 was released by Sardar late last year.? Detailed info is at:
Cal and I did a group buy of the boards and components near the end of the year, and I produced some additional documentation that you can find here:
This build works well for all 3 functions (battery, speaker, ATU) when you do the adjustments shown in my build notes and FAQs.?? It is a nice addition to QMX+.
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Sardar also released a ver. 2.0 this year.? Please see this message post by Sardar, and also all of the messages in that thread:
The ver 2.0 detailed information is in the link in that first message.
Cal and I have also built this ver. 2.0.? It is nicer in form factor, is easier to assemble, and solves some of the issues encountered and worked-around in ver1.2.? But we have encountered some performance issues with the ATU on 6m, and to a lesser extent on 10m and the lower bands, somewhat similar to those we found in ver1.2.? We started testing and trying to evaluate whether the performance is good enough or if there is an easy workaround to improve it, but we have been side-tracked with the many other priorities in our lives for the last few weeks.? We may also do a group buy for this ABS ver 2.0 solution, and have been keeping a list of interested parties.? But it will still take some time, because we want to make sure it will meet people's expectations and be at least as good as ver 1.2 before doing a group buy, but we haven't had a lot of time to spend on it recently.? If anyone else wants to do some pioneering builds and evaluation of ver 2.0, that would be great.
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Stan KC7XE
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Re: Qmx L501 inductor Partially broken

 

The consensus seems to be it doesn't affect it at all. If you have the little piece and it bothers you super glue it later. You can search on broken coil etc.


Re: Dreaded dead transmit from SSB Calibration routine

 

Do not do it if your not comfortable.? Hans said calibration is not required and the unit works fine in SSB without it.


Re: Dreaded dead transmit from SSB Calibration routine

 

I still fear doing SSB calibration after uploading the firmware. .? And won't.? Perhaps Hans can suggest safe guidelines to do this, maybe it's a new firmware thing.


On Tue, May 20, 2025, 6:10?PM Robert Dale via <ve7zn=[email protected]> wrote:
Ludwig,
I see. Well I decided to send it off to Jeff (W1NC) to have it fixed. If it comes back working, I will NOT be doing the SSB calibration again, that¡¯s for sure.?

Thank you for your input. Much appreciated.?

73,
Robert VE7ZN


Qmx L501 inductor Partially broken

 

Received the kit from FedEx in a perfectly intact box.?
The content check was positive with the exception of the L501 inductor with the partially broken edge. Can this defect affect the operation of the kit?


Re: Dreaded dead transmit from SSB Calibration routine

 

Ludwig,
I see. Well I decided to send it off to Jeff (W1NC) to have it fixed. If it comes back working, I will NOT be doing the SSB calibration again, that¡¯s for sure.?

Thank you for your input. Much appreciated.?

73,
Robert VE7ZN