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Re: [QMX] SMPS to linear regulator conversion tips

 

Chris <chris.rowland@...> wrote:

I used generic TO220 style linear regulators for my linear SMPS
replacement, had to trim the tabs a bit but they are rated for 1A and
while they get warm seem OK.
Do you have a photo?


Re: QMX, one of op-amps self-oscillates at 25 MHz (or picks up the system clock?)

 

Stan Dye via groups.io <standye@...> wrote:

These two observations tell me that your problem is 'to the right' of the capacitor.
That's what I suspected as well.

After spending (too much) time on it, I think I figured out the source of
this buzzing (not the cause, just the source).

First, these 25 MHz oscillations were probably caused by the oscilloscope
probe. They're irrelevant.

There are 100 Hz spikes on inputs of two of four op amps (and, what's
interesting, on outputs of OTHER two op amps).

These spikes are not in sync with mains (in Poland I have 50 Hz mains, so
that was my first suspicion).

What in the QMX generates such spikes? Turns out that CLK0 and CLK1
signals are interrupted for 200 microseconds at this rate (100 Hz).
Why, I have no idea.

I replaced op-amps, replaced C416...C419 (I used 22n, I didn't have 33n,
but it didn't seem to make any difference), finally replaced C406 that you
mentioned (with 2x 1u, the same reason as above). Nothing changed.

So the source is located, and it would even make sense for these spikes to
appear on two of four outputs of IC403 (if the clock signal was always
interrupted in one or two "phases" of the detector -- but I didn't measure
both signals at the same time, so I'm only guessing).

I guess the proper question would be: could you / someone else look at
CLK0 and CLK1 lines (IC403 pins 2 and 14) and see if you see these breaks
there? It's hard to spot on the oscilloscope...

Maybe Hans can confirm that the CPU indeed does such thing? Or deny? Maybe
it's some weird firmware bug?

Have you checked carefully R401/R402/C406? A bad C406 in that biasing
circuit could cause oscillations and disturb the audio.
Yes, now I did (replaced C406). I didn't touch R401 or R402, as the
biasing voltage seems correct.

Are you certain that there is no anomaly with T401?
At this point I'm not sure of anything... but I don't think, given this
new discovery, it's T401. Plus these spikes are not present on its outputs
(pins 7 and 9 of IC403).

Is the buzzing only on 'left' or 'right' audio, or both?
Spikes are on inputs of IC406 (so right) and outputs of IC405 (so left).
Crazy.

And finally, as unlikely as it seems, IC407 has been the most common
failure source of anything related to audio in the QMX.? If none of the
previous apply, I would replace that one.
When I removed op-amps, the buzzing stopped, so I guess IC407 is fine...

btw - you are the third person now recently who I have heard blew the
IC403 with a strong overvoltage burning through the 5V supply, myself
being one of them (I inadvertently turned QMX+ on with a 17.5V supply).?
I don't know why the nearly identical IC402 didn't also blow.? Maybe
it's the doubled bias across the Z/W pins.
It would make sense. Maybe the chip can sustain overvoltage on VCC, but
not on Z and W (their input protection diodes would normally clamp it to
VCC, but with VCC also being too high it didn't happen)...

BTW, I recorded videos (with oscillograms) when I worked on it, partly in
case I needed some more advice, partly to document what I was doing in
case I got confused later. I summarized everything above, but here's the
raw footage anyway (not edited or cut, just merged).


These cursed little pwr supply boards...QMX

 

Is it possible to test the pwr supply boards outside of the radio just by themselves?
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Long story, but I blew mine a few weeks ago (likely shorted the pins). I ordered 2 new sets--they finally arrived but with 3 of the same little board. one larger board and a broken diode floating around in the little bag...I swear I'm cursed. (its great they get bubble wrapped, but placed together inside the bag they obviously rub together) anyway...
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Can I test the boards independently? In the circuit all I am seeing is my main input voltage of appx 11.9 volts on the 8 pin board, and nothing at all on the six pin...these little beggars have become the bane of my existence ! LOL.
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Kind regards as always,
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Scott vy1co


Re: [QMX] SMPS to linear regulator conversion tips

 

I put a couple TO220 linear regulators on a small piece of vector board that plugs into JP105.? The 3.3v TO220 regulator got too hot to touch, so I bolted a copper plate to the tab.? ?Can't imagine how that dinky 78M33 manages to dissipate so much heat through one or two skinny Sot23 ground pins.
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Jerry, KE7ER
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On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 03:58 PM, Adam wrote:

I'd love to use a bigger regulator, but there's almost no space there. Or
is there? Did you fit a bigger regulator?


Re: QMX Question for Troubleshooting

 

May not be a problem in this case, but I'd recommend at least an alligator clip jumper to keep the grounds connected while unplugging the front panel.? Generally, if the ground pins disconnect before the VCC pins do, power might find a return path through the signal pins and smoke an IO cell somewhere.
Jerry, KE7ER
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On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 02:38 PM, Brien - KE7WB wrote:

I built my 9V 60-15 last weekend.? To troubleshoot it I would leave the display board off and start it up with the control board.? After I established Terminal App connection I would pop the control board off, only if I needed to access underneath it.? Not always good to pull things off under power but mostly this board provides inputs to the main board so probably reasonably safe to do.
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Brien - KE7WB


Re: [QMX] SMPS to linear regulator conversion tips

 

Jerry Gaffke via groups.io <jgaffke@...> wrote:

Signals ADC_5V and ADC_3V3 back to the host should be a bit high by maybe a tenth of a volt.
If the processor doesn't see a high enough voltage,? it waits until it does before running any further code.
It's ok if those signals are a bit high, but there is no margin on the low side.
Thanks! It works now, but if my QMX ever stops booting, this will be what
I'll check first.

I'm amazed the 78M33 works at all, that's a lot of power to dissipate.
It's very hot, but didn't bang yet. I'm testing it with the case open now.
I'll see what happens when I close it.

I'd recommend either going with a bigger regulator (and a heat sink), or
feeding the 78M33 from your 5v linear..
78M33 and 78M05 are on the same heatsink (ground plane), so I guess it
won't matter which one dissipates the heat, as long as the heatsink can
absorb it...

I'd love to use a bigger regulator, but there's almost no space there. Or
is there? Did you fit a bigger regulator?


Re: QMX Question for Troubleshooting

 

I built my 9V 60-15 last weekend.? To troubleshoot it I would leave the display board off and start it up with the control board.? After I established Terminal App connection I would pop the control board off, only if I needed to access underneath it.? Not always good to pull things off under power but mostly this board provides inputs to the main board so probably reasonably safe to do.
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Brien - KE7WB


Re: PuTTY issue on Diagnostics screen

 

Thank you for your reply Roger.?
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Yes I? press enter and can see the diagnostics screen,? but when I try to change bands it does exactly as described in the original post.?
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To exit the diagnostics screen I press Ctrl Q and it takes up to 10 minutes to go back to the first screen.?
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I tried it with PuTTy loaded onto another laptop, and with different USB cables and it makes no difference.
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Both laptops are running on Windows 10.
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Regards?
John?


Re: Practice Mode

 

Gabe KO6EQN via groups.io <ggsubs@...> wrote:

Turn off break in (Vox button secondary function).
Adjust squelch to the maximum.
Which radio are you referring to?


Re: Practice Mode

 

Chris G7LQX via groups.io <mornymorny@...> wrote:

Is it possible to disable the RF input when using practice mode?? There
is significant background noise when practicing morse, since I can't
turn off the reception..... I guess a dummy load will help...?
I set the sidetone to absolute, volume to one step above muted, and if
there's still noise, lower the gain with my tool:



I just start it and press arrow down to decrease the gain to minimum, it
sends appropriate CAT commands.


Re: QMX Question for Troubleshooting

 

Donald Adams via groups.io <djadams42@...> wrote:

Is it OK to apply power to a QMX when the LCD and Controls Boards are
removed?
Yes.

If so,? is it then OK to turn on the VDD supply by manually grounding
the PWR_ON line at the input connector of PCB #1?
Yes.

NOTE: This QMX is a 9V, user built, 60-15m unit that comes up with no VDD at power turn on.? If VDD did come up,

I assume the QMX?would be in the initial power up mode for loading firmware so only the linear IC101 VDD would be expected.
Is +12V (after power switch) present? Well, in your case it will be +9V,
but the line is still labeled +12V...


QMX Question for Troubleshooting

 

Is it OK to apply power to a QMX when the LCD and Controls Boards are removed?

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If so,? is it then OK to turn on the VDD supply by manually grounding the PWR_ON line at the input connector of PCB #1?

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NOTE:? This QMX is a 9V, user built, 60-15m unit that comes up with no VDD at power turn on.? If VDD did come up,

I assume the QMX?would be in the initial power up mode for loading firmware so only the linear IC101 VDD would be expected.

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Don WB0LQW


Re: Soldering Station Recommendations

 

On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 01:23 PM, Jerry Gaffke wrote:
The exact mix of what metals determines the melting temperature, strength,?
and the temperature range between liquid and solid where it's in a mushy state.
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A lot of these properties also depend upon the levels of various impurities being low.
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73, Don N2VGU
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Re: QMX+ 160m problems

 

Ok Stan thats useful to know, save me banging my head on the bench !!
Yes the low pass response on 6m is well down.
73 Hugh GM8FXD


Re: QMX+ 160m problems

 

Nick, I thought 160m receive wouldn't yet work correctly? TX should work, but IIRC the image sweeps will NOT be correct.?
See: /g/QRPLabs/topic/107754303
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-Nate?
N8BTR


Re: QMX+ 160m problems

 

Thanks for the feedback Nick, I'm pretty sure I've done those continuity checks but I will look again around L401/C401 tomorrow.
73 Hugh GM8FXD


Re: The USB connection is not working.

 

Hello again, last time I thought that the problem might be in the new generation cables with PD support, so I bought 3 different brands of type-C to type-A cables with data transfer feature and working in USB2 standard, when I plugged in the first cable, the device connected and when it showed as Com-3 I thought the problem was solved, but while browsing the hardware monitor, the breaks started again, the same problem with all 3 cables...
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I decided to renew the soldering of the smd USB C connector on the board, which I had already checked by checking for short circuits (those who make this decision know that the moment your hands shake is the moment you are finished...). With all prayers I was able to re-solder it without any problem, and bingo! For now the problem seems to be solved, I have been testing for 2-3 hours and so far so good.
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Now that we've identified the problem, it's time to go back and test other cables and USB ports, all the cables I had worked on all ports, type-C, A... If you are experiencing similar symptoms I hope these articles will help you... Sincerely 73.
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TA2KTK - Tayfun


Re: QMX+ 160m problems

 

The image and i/q response is due to a firmware issue.? It can be ignored for now (yes on the qmx and qmx+, they both use the same firmware).
Your power out on 6m is very low.? If that band is important to you, you can likely adjust the LPF or the T501 windings to improve it .


Re: QMX+ with ~1000 tone on 12M & 6M

 

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Same here 2 different QMX+'s
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Ian G4GIR
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----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Thompson via groups.io <pcteee@...>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Sent: 08/01/2025 09:01:31
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] QMX+ with ~1000 tone on 12M & 6M

Same problem here.....? QMX+
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6 meters FT8 waterfall
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Phil.? G4JVF


Re: New AWG #28 - 0.33 wire

 

Thomas,? the extra 0.03 won't make any difference.?
Regarding the enamel, there are several kinds. Some are designed to burn off with a very hot iron.? Some are designed for high temperature,? and must be scraped off. So you need to be aware of that and test the wrie you get, and/or read in its specs to know.? I? personally scrape all enamel wire types, because relying on the enamel burning off results in most of the kit assembly issues.
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Also be aware of the type of wire.? For this application copper is better than copper-clad steel, etc?