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QMX - smoke - another C107/Q108 failure
Hi all
I completed the QMX kit build and got everything up and running OK including making some initial FT8 QSOs. I built for 12V and have been running on 12V from my regulated (but not current limited) bench PSU with a total power on time so far of about 2 hours. So today I was exploring the menus for beacon mode, when the magic smoke suddenly escaped - QMX was not transmitting at the time It looks like the C107/Q108 failures reported by others here I think the best approach here will be to rig up linear 3.3/5V supplies (I have plenty of linear regulators to hand) to test the main boards for collateral damage before repairing the PSU board Any thoughts ? Cheers Rick |
Re: accurate time source
I can’t imagine that your WiFi has hundreds of ms of variable delay, as NTP will correct for fixed delay, but I suppose anything’s possible.
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73, Willie N1JBJ On Aug 23, 2023, at 7:42 AM, Bryan Curl <bc3910@...> wrote: |
Re: accurate time source
Time.is is good.
Ive had issues using built in time sources for updating the pc time automatically and wondered if a lagging wi-fi connection could have caused some delay. Sometimes it works and others not so much. But setting manually to time.is has always worked for perfect ft-8 timing. -- regards, Bryan, N0LUF |
JS8CALL. no receive audio QDX
Trying to setup JS8 on my QDX. (all works fine on FT8)
TX works OK but am getting no indication of receive audio on the left hand level meter (nothing on the waterfall) Using latest version of QDX with latest version of JS8Call on a Mac M1. Both AUDIO settings are set to QDX and RADIO is set to TS480.? CAT test is green. Any ideas ? Thanks... Phil. G4JVF |
Re: Audio level limiting with diodes?
Friends , Romanos,? ?Gentlemens? ---? lend? me one buck I can do it for you because that's the Ebay price for the Tda7052AT? Here's the cct that the? MST 2 from Australia used to? use - a fine cct but Ozqrp shut down when the owner , Leon , retired. Note that the? LM08 psu is critical? . This device will NOT withstand 12V.? ?the Audio? is 500% better than the crap you will get out of an LM386 cct Fly in ointment - the chip is obsolescent.? BUT it rides at night on Ebay and varous SE asian sources . Futurlec.com does not list it but often he can get not too hard parts if you pester him.? Don't buy? one unless they are rationed get two or three.? Note that i adding AGC to an existing say LM386 cct you may have to just abandond what is there and make up a replacement amp on a piece of veroboard.? Don't forget the support holes. TE. Fidler |
Re: Happy 5th birthday......
Hi Ken QMX with SSB doesn't replace QSX. QMX contains some technologies?that are a stepping stone to QSX, yes.? 73 Hans G0UPL On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 10:20?AM KEN G4APB <lfoofui.nbz42@...> wrote:
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Re: #qmx Bringing up QMX, Nothing in display but terminal works, shutdown press does not
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Paul, here's the link again, easier to click than cut and paste /g/QRPLabs/message/107812 I hope this helps.
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Re: #qmx Bringing up QMX, Nothing in display but terminal works, shutdown press does not
#qmx
Paul, I had a similar issue, which turned out to be pin 3 of the display board making contact with the inductor on the power supply board above it. /g/QRPLabs/message/107812
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Re: Argh QMX Q103/Q104 short
Hot air is a good investment. Cheap hot air stations are fine for hobbyist use. I spent less that $50 for a three-channel variant of the usual single 858D stations. Three-channel is a bit of a luxury, which I do enjoy, but single channel will get the job done fine, and they can be had for under $40. Here's one Comes with nozzles and tweezers.
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Re: Audio level limiting with diodes?
I used 2 schottky diodes in antiparallell on my QCX-mini.?
It does save your ears from audioshock!? It does not influence audio quality under normal operation, since the diodes are not clipping the waveform.? But you still have large variations in audio level when tuning across the band.? When the AGC-Boards became available I installed one of them, and it makes a world of difference! Now you can comfortably tune the bands SM5EIE /Gunnar? |
Re: QMX IF length error
Thanks guys, I will fix that in the next firmware version 73 Hans G0UPL On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 12:47?AM Mike Black via <mdblack98=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Argh QMX Q103/Q104 short
Sorry, I forgot ...
Hans / QRP Labs will be offering the separately.? $10.? They won't be available for a few more weeks though.? Probably in manufacturing. You can fix your board sooner than that with a new Q103 (big) transistor, and you'll have learned some good new techniques.? Be aware that Q103 has a large copper pad underneath it.? Probably for heat dissipation.? It will take a fair amount of heat to get that solder joint to release.? Again, Mr SolderFix' formed wire technique should do it just fine.? Personally I'd go with the low-temp alloy;? I like to use as little heat as possible for repair operations.? Be gentle on everything and you won't turn a small problem into a big problem; lifting pads for example. Some components like large ICs have large copper pads underneath them, completely inaccessible to soldering iron techniques.? If you have to repair one of those some day, you'll have to use wide area heat.? The easiest, cost-efficient approach would be to use a heat gun.? I love my heat gun ... everybody who gets a heat gun loves it.? You do have to practice with it though!? Watch a bunch of YouTube videos so you know how not to blow nearby components away!? And practice, practice, practice on junk boards before you attempt your intended repair. Got an old dead cell phone?? Rip it open and take parts off the board one at a time.?Finesse is everything with a heat gun. |
Re: Argh QMX Q103/Q104 short
Sorry that you busted your transistor.? That's been mentioned in other topics; components can't take much physical stress. But you can install a new transistor without too much trouble.? Read on.
For others with the same situation, there are gentler ways to solve the problem so you don't damage either transistor. Couple weeks ago Keith AG5GW posted this topic in which he linked by Recommended.? Review the video; Mr SolderFix shows very workable techniques for removing components.? I would focus on moving the small transistor, Q104.? You should be able to move the small transistor using his technique of a form-fitted piece of copper wire, which allows you to melt all three legs' solder joints at the same time.? I'll suggest getting all 3 joints melted, then move the small transistor away from its pads toward the edge of the board, and remove the heat-transfer wire.? Then go about soldering the transistor back onto its pads, leaving a gap in between it and the large transistor Q103. You can accomplish the same goal of removing Q104 (or Q103 if you prefer) using low temperature desoldering alloy.? I have done this on QFP chips, Quad Flat Pack, 32 pins, so I know it can work on a 3-pin device like Q103 or Q104.? The alloy is sold under brand names and on Amazon. I like low-temp desoldering alloy quite a lot.? Just clean up all the weird alloy from the transistor legs and the board pads, using desoldering braid and flux, before you reinstall the transistor. Also pay attention to Mr SolderFix' technique of removing solder from through-holes.? You'll need that technique some day.? Desoldering braid and liquid flux and a little finesse --? which this guy shows you -- gets it done.? His YouTube channel is really, really good and informative. |
Re: Argh QMX Q103/Q104 short
开云体育I purchased an air gun for this very reason! Applied the airgun and Q103 fell right off the board. I ended up soldering it back in, with my iron. As a matter of interest, removing Q103 did NOT remove the solder
bridge! But I could see it plainly and get to it, at least. Just
moving Q103 would not have fixed the problem I had! I would think the best "iron only" approach would be to use
solder wick to remove as much solder as possible from the lead end
of Q103, maybe lift them off the board just a bit? Be very
judicious, many reports of breaking these leads! Then flux and heat the tab of Q103, melt the solder there, and lift it gently up--just a bit. Too much will lift the connections on the other end of Q103 (I think!). That may remove Q103 entirely, so you can work in the area freely (good for you!) Place Q103 back, tack it in place, taking care to keep away from Q104's gate tab. Solder the other lead, and resolder the tab. (I found putting Q103 back to be quite easy. The way I removed it was surprising to me, I didn't expect it to leap off the board!) Paul
On 8/22/23 19:02, Eric KB6R wrote:
So my QMX board showed up with the Q103/Q104 short and I figured I would try to fix that before starting on the actual build. Has anyone successfully done this with a soldering iron, as opposed to a hot air gun? I've never done any SMD work, but figured Q103 is big, so maybe I can heat up the large pad and nudge it over, but it wouldn't budge with increasingly aggressive heating. I decided to try and the gate and source pins first, and ... Q103 shattered at the gate pin. |
#qmx Bringing up QMX, Nothing in display but terminal works, shutdown press does not
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I think this is a unique constellation of symptoms:
Paul |
Re: #qmx QMX and waste heat from the finals
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Won't work well because you are requiring heat flux through steel (the bolt) to get to the Cu . What you want is a thick Penny? (buy one from a coin dealer for example)? , put it on grinding paper say P80 grit? backed? by a wet? glass plate or kit bench and flatten it and then use P200 to get? smooth surface then Drill precisely in ctr using? a ctr finder if you have one ( or scribe against two chords ) or mound in a lathe chuck to find the ctr .? Cu has amazing density cw with what most people think - It's about 70% of steel. this makes it particularly good at absorbing the pulses of heat it would typically get in voice SSB operation.? (but not so good for? continuous digital modes). Brass is an unacceptable substitute .? The big problem is the rounded back of the BS? 170? cases - potentially you can lap them to a small rectangle say 1.6mm across x the TO92 case height? by hand and a jig? for improved HT but if you have the soldered on the PCB then you are sod out of luck unless you want to do a pull and resolder job. |