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Re: Quadrature/IQ AM demodulation.


Arv Evans
 

John? G8FPN

After thinking a bit more about Hans` QCX block diagram, there may be a possibility for
AM detection with the QCX.? It would involve adding an IF strip after the Quadrature
Detector and before the AM amplification section.? Suppose we wanted to listen to
CHU on 7.85 Mhz, we could tune the Si5351A synthesizer to 6.85 MHz and via a
1.0 MHz IF amplifier, filter, and detector actually detect the 7.85 signal as an AM signal.?
This would cause the QCX frequency display to be 1 MHz off-frequency from actual
reception, but a software change could take care of that and be triggered by selection
of a new AM-Mode from the system menu.

This does not solve the need for an AM transmit mode but it is one way to possibly
add AM reception to the QCX unit.? This mod would not be a trivial change.?

Arv? K7HKL
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On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Arv Evans <arvid.evans@...> wrote:
John? G8FPN

In Hans` QCX receive section the quadrature detector is so close to the antenna that it
seems you would not have adequate amplification to drive an AM detector at that point.



Also, there is really no tuning for receive at that detection point because the receive
side RF input is broadband with only a Low-Pass filter between there an the antenna.
Anything to the right of the Quadrature Sampling Detector is already audio derived
from mixing incoming RF with the Si5351A synthesizer output.? This would make
any recovered AM audio contain an undesirable beat note.?

It might be possible to do something really fancy with the micro-processor control of
the synthesizer and arrive at some sort of synchronous detection, but that would be
complex, and probably beyond the capability of the small ATMega328 processor.
But, having said that, it might be that with the GPS frequency stabilization you could
tune close enough to the desired signal that the beat note would be below normal
audible range and thus not noticeable.? This though causes another problem in that
there would be a slow QSB (fading) of the signal due to the local oscillator being
close but not exactly on the AM carrier frequency.? QSB rate would be the difference
between LO and AM carrier frequency.

Other transceiver or receiver designs which follow closer to conventional super-
heterodyne configurations might be a better choice if you want to receive AM signals.?

I don't want to discourage your interest, but a direct-conversion receiver seems
like a difficult direction if the intent is for AM capability.?

It should be possible to design and build a true multi-mode receiver using a
super-heterodyne configuration, but the detectors would be after the IF stage(s).
You could still use quadrature detection for SSB and CW, along with turning the
BFO off and using a diode detector for AM.? FM might also be possible with a
typical FM limiter and FM detector stage at the same point.?

Arv? K7HKL
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On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 9:59 AM, John Williams <j1.williams@...> wrote:

Arv

?
Many thanks for your response. I have constructed many superhet type receivers in the past, but this is my first foray into SDR,
so my knowledge on that is very limited at present. I know I can decode SSB using the plug in polyphase ?network, but wondered
if there was a way to extract AM, (and maybe FM?) ?also, to make a stand alone multi-mode SDR receiver.
Just an idea, - but I have a 40m QCX coming in the next few weeks, so that may be put on the back-burner!


Thanks

John G8FPN



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